southsider2k5 Posted January 27, 2010 Author Share Posted January 27, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jan 26, 2010 -> 05:23 PM) This is a great move by the Cards. If anyone can save this kid and his miracle curve it's Dave Duncan. He sure didn't have any luck with Reyes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 26, 2010 -> 08:53 PM) He sure didn't have any luck with Reyes... Except for that world series? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Nick Swisher is on next weeks "How I Met Your MOther". Hope he doesn't ruin one of my fav shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 28, 2010 Author Share Posted January 28, 2010 QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 27, 2010 -> 06:59 PM) Nick Swisher is on next weeks "How I Met Your MOther". Hope he doesn't ruin one of my fav shows. I'm sure he'll strike out looking... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 The Yankees floated Damon a 1 year, $6 million number with $3 million deferred after Damon seemingly called and begged for a job offer, and Damon's camp turned it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 28, 2010 Author Share Posted January 28, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 28, 2010 -> 02:33 PM) The Yankees floated Damon a 1 year, $6 million number with $3 million deferred after Damon seemingly called and begged for a job offer, and Damon's camp turned it down. Pure genius. Now he can go somewhere else and have his numbers suffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 28, 2010 -> 02:37 PM) Pure genius. Now he can go somewhere else and have his numbers suffer. and not get paid as much IMO. at this point he might be better off waiting for ST to start and see if a contending team suffers a major injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 I'm starting to think he might find his way into the Sox budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 28, 2010 -> 05:41 PM) I'm starting to think he might find his way into the Sox budget. He turned down $6 million. I genuinely am wondering if he might retire. No one is offering him more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 29, 2010 Author Share Posted January 29, 2010 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 28, 2010 -> 04:41 PM) I'm starting to think he might find his way into the Sox budget. \Merkin just put a piece on Chisox.com about the potential to still add a DH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 28, 2010 -> 08:10 PM) \Merkin just put a piece on Chisox.com about the potential to still add a DH. Just read it. Ozzie was right. Thome is too likable. I can't hate him, but he plays for the only team I dislike more than the Cubs. Makes me sick. Also, he had the SoxNet nod in the article, mentioning the A-Gon rumor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Did the moneyball plan have a statistically significant impact on the way the game was played? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Steroids did as much for moneyball as Billy Beane did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Jan 29, 2010 -> 10:23 AM) Steroids did as much for moneyball as Billy Beane did. I know that, regarding Beane. I found the data on stolen bases and BB/PA quite intriguing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 In the the steroid era pitchers had to pitcher more carfully as the long fly ball was now a home run hence walks went up. Also striking out is no long an issue so guys can do the old Nick Swisher and rely on the umpire to call ball four or strike three on a close pitch. As our good friend Hawk always told us. It is easy to win with hudson, Mulder and Zito. Beane is a real good GM but I do not think he reinvented anything. He also plays in the worst hitters park in baeball with the huge foul territory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 28, 2010 -> 07:44 PM) He turned down $6 million. I genuinely am wondering if he might retire. No one is offering him more than that. Looks like Oakland is offering Damon 1 year - $7M. And that Tampa may be offering him more. If I were him and Tampa offered similar money, it's a no brainer. He'll get alot more exposure playing in the AL East, which he and Boras would want to help create a market for him in 2011. Plus, his game might not translate well to playing in that tomb in Oakland. Edited January 29, 2010 by scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Jan 29, 2010 -> 11:33 AM) In the the steroid era pitchers had to pitcher more carfully as the long fly ball was now a home run hence walks went up. Also striking out is no long an issue so guys can do the old Nick Swisher and rely on the umpire to call ball four or strike three on a close pitch. As our good friend Hawk always told us. It is easy to win with hudson, Mulder and Zito. Beane is a real good GM but I do not think he reinvented anything. He also plays in the worst hitters park in baeball with the huge foul territory. Moneyball isn't about reinvention, it's about innovation. It's about exploiting market inefficiencies. OPB was an advantage for Beane until everybody else started doing it. Moneyball isn’t irrelevant it’s never been more important. It’s just transformed through the decade. And can we stop the “it’s easy to win with Mulder, Zito, and Hudson” thing? Billy Beane got all of those players, and then they left when he could afford them anymore. This is like saying that it’s easy for KW to win with Floyd and Danks. Well yeah, it is, because they’re great players that the GM actively obtained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jan 29, 2010 -> 11:10 AM) Moneyball isn't about reinvention, it's about innovation. It's about exploiting market inefficiencies. OPB was an advantage for Beane until everybody else started doing it. Moneyball isn’t irrelevant it’s never been more important. It’s just transformed through the decade. And can we stop the “it’s easy to win with Mulder, Zito, and Hudson” thing? Billy Beane got all of those players, and then they left when he could afford them anymore. This is like saying that it’s easy for KW to win with Floyd and Danks. Well yeah, it is, because they’re great players that the GM actively obtained. In my mind his way of looking at OBP received credability because he had a pitching staff and steroid fueled OBP guys that became MVP winners thus their OBP became magnified along with their production via the steroids. I think Beane is good but to make a movie about what he has accomplished is stupid. I'd rather see a portrayal of how Tony LaRussa goes about his business. You know the guy Beane didn't need as a manager....I know, money was an issue. The A's have a history of success and there were some great people there before he got there. It was not like he did not have anyone to learn from and built the organization from scratch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Jan 29, 2010 -> 01:47 PM) I'd rather see a portrayal of how Tony LaRussa goes about his business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 27, 2010 -> 07:59 PM) Nick Swisher is on next weeks "How I Met Your MOther". Hope he doesn't ruin one of my fav shows. /Insert partying with Barney/powdered sugar joke here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Jan 29, 2010 -> 01:47 PM) In my mind his way of looking at OBP received credability because he had a pitching staff and steroid fueled OBP guys that became MVP winners thus their OBP became magnified along with their production via the steroids. I think Beane is good but to make a movie about what he has accomplished is stupid. I'd rather see a portrayal of how Tony LaRussa goes about his business. You know the guy Beane didn't need as a manager....I know, money was an issue. The A's have a history of success and there were some great people there before he got there. It was not like he did not have anyone to learn from and built the organization from scratch. So you don't care for Beane because of steroids, but you want to see how LaRussa goes about his business? uh huh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 29, 2010 -> 02:04 PM) Priceless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Mauer... 10 year extension? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 QUOTE (bschmaranz @ Feb 1, 2010 -> 03:18 PM) Mauer... 10 year extension? Wow that would be huge for the Twins and their franchise, though it doesn't say how much he got paid yet. We'll found out later it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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