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QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Sep 8, 2010 -> 09:52 PM)
I think misleading is probably the wrong word for it, but I think the point he is making is for most baseball fans, even those that call themselves dedicated fans, still look at batting average as the #1 indicator for hitting performance, when that just isn't the case.

 

"Misleading" was probably the wrong word to use though.

 

Believe me, I've gone full blown sabemetrics in the last year or so. wOBA is my favorite stat for hitters. FIP and xFIP are my favorite stats for pitchers. I just don't see how hits divided by at bats is not a good indicator of that particular skillset. If I'm wrong (Kalapse, qwerty, chw42) please tell me.

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QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 7, 2010 -> 08:09 PM)
He just hit a 3-run bomb a few minutes ago. Shack, Brian and Tony can kiss my buttocks (I mean that in a playful way). Carlos Gonzalez > life.

Hah, I have him in my fantasy keeper league, so trust me, I am a big fan.

 

I just wanted to see your explanation of the splits, that's all.

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QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 10, 2010 -> 10:59 PM)
Hah, I have him in my fantasy keeper league, so trust me, I am a big fan.

 

I just wanted to see your explanation of the splits, that's all.

 

I don't have an explanation. Those are some pretty drastic splits. But I don't think this is a Preston Wilson situation either. Carlos' skillset should translate to consistent production no matter the park. Next year will be telling on if he truly is a product of Coors. And even if he is, my love for him will stay true.

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QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 10, 2010 -> 11:54 PM)
I don't have an explanation. Those are some pretty drastic splits. But I don't think this is a Preston Wilson situation either. Carlos' skillset should translate to consistent production no matter the park. Next year will be telling on if he truly is a product of Coors. And even if he is, my love for him will stay true.

I think he'll pick it up in other parks. He'll always hit better at Coors, but who wouldn't?

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 10, 2010 -> 08:51 AM)
Nick Masset on the mound, runners on 1st and 3rd.

 

Runner on 3rd takes off.

Players yell that he's taking off.

Masset turns towards 2nd, the unoccupied base.

Masset turns towards 1st.

Masset turns towards home and throws

Throw is too late, winning run scores.

 

Video.

 

The sad part is that he's right handed...

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QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 11, 2010 -> 10:28 PM)
Votto clinched the NL MVP tonight barring a choke by the Reds. Saw an amazing stat that he hasn't popped up the ball (140 feet and less) once this season.

 

He's the favorite. But if the Rockies stun the baseball world for the third time in 4 years and somehow get in, be it win the division or the wild card, Carlos Gonzalez will be every bit as deserving.

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QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 11, 2010 -> 02:02 AM)
I think he'll pick it up in other parks. He'll always hit better at Coors, but who wouldn't?

I wonder if he isn't a case of some sort of a beyond Coors effect...something we've seen talked about for our team and the Cell...where he's a great hitter at home because he adapts his swing to dominate the park where he plays half his games (i.e. swinging for the fences at the Cell) but then is unable to adapt to other parks when he leaves it.

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And The Giants have caught the Padres. And more terrifying for the Padres, Lincecum looks like he's reverting back to his '08/'09 self. And how about those f***ing Rockies. The anti-Sox when it comes to second-half performance. That's 10 wins in a row for them and they're now only 1 1/2 games out of first.

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QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 12, 2010 -> 08:08 PM)
And how about those f***ing Rockies. The anti-Sox when it comes to second-half performance. That's 10 wins in a row for them and they're now only 1 1/2 games out of first.

 

They are making it look easy when September rolls around. Unbelievable. Tracy will get more credit than he deserves, but since he took over, it's like that team becomes insane later on in the year (the last month especially) when it counts. Like I said a couple weeks ago.. hold off those Bud Black for manager of the year awards (though he is still deserving from SD's season overall).

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QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 8, 2010 -> 11:19 PM)
Believe me, I've gone full blown sabemetrics in the last year or so. wOBA is my favorite stat for hitters. FIP and xFIP are my favorite stats for pitchers. I just don't see how hits divided by at bats is not a good indicator of that particular skillset. If I'm wrong (Kalapse, qwerty, chw42) please tell me.

 

The only reason it's "misleading" is because of how limited it is. There is nothing you can really learn about a hitter from average other than that he either gets a lot of base hits or he doesn't. That's very important information to know, but there's no real depth to it.

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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 13, 2010 -> 11:09 PM)
The only reason it's "misleading" is because of how limited it is. There is nothing you can really learn about a hitter from average other than that he either gets a lot of base hits or he doesn't. That's very important information to know, but there's no real depth to it.

 

Then why is average considered one of the five primary "tools"?

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