JPN366 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 5, 2009 -> 11:00 AM) Or maybe they genuinely think Viciedo will stick at 3b. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Retherford break camp with the big league team next spring. I do think Viciedo will stick at third. I hope Teahen can find a Catholic church close by the stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 5, 2009 -> 09:15 AM) Interesting. I am not surprised to see Fields out the door so quickly, but I am shocked to see Getz gone. Teahen is a nice add for us. This is how I feel. I don't mind Fields going, but I'm a Getz guy and do NOT want Nix playing 2nd everyday. I think Getz could turn into a Mark Grudzielanek type player. Teahan won't be facing Buehrle anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 (edited) I wouldn't mind it if he were at 2B or 3B, but he sure as s*** better not be in RF. Even with JD sucking nuts for half the season he still put up an OPS 50 points higher than Teahen. I'm really afraid this is another KW sees a guy doing awesome against us and acquires him even though he sucks against everybody else. f*** man if Nix is at 2B and Teahen is at RF we might lose 100 games. f*** even Pods had a higher OPS than Teahen Edited November 5, 2009 by jphat007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Nov 5, 2009 -> 11:05 AM) Before the offseason began I mentioned Beltre on a reclamation deal with Beckham going to 2B. I'd like that kind of move because it beefs up our IF offense and defense, and it puts Beckham in a spot where he can be elite for the next 10 years. Count me in on the Adrian Beltre bandwagon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 QUOTE (jphat007 @ Nov 5, 2009 -> 11:08 AM) f*** man if Nix is at 2B and Teahen is at RF we might lose 100 games. Not going to happen. Calm down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 QUOTE (jphat007 @ Nov 5, 2009 -> 11:08 AM) I wouldn't mind it if he were at 2B or 3B, but he sure as s*** better not be in RF. Even with JD sucking nuts for half the season he still put up an OPS 50 points higher than Teahen. I'm really afraid this is another KW sees a guy doing awesome against us and acquires him even though he sucks against everybody else. f*** man if Nix is at 2B and Teahen is at RF we might lose 100 games. f*** even Pods had a higher OPS than Teahen And the award for best lead dramatic actor is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 If I'm the Sox, I don't mess with Beckham. You did that once and is coming around nicely. MAYBE, if he comes to the org and says he would be more comfortable in a MI spot. Nix played part-time last year. Hard to have any consistency when that happens. If Teahen is in RF, I'm thinking the combo of him and Rios will make up for the loss of JD's OPS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Teahen is a decent player and all, but he's not really a leadoff hitter, which is what we need. Getz may have developed into one. This deal doesn't make much sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Nov 5, 2009 -> 09:11 AM) Count me in on the Adrian Beltre bandwagon. Between Boras being his agent and the fact that he'll probably want a multi-year deal, I'm just not so sure he's a good fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 5, 2009 -> 11:14 AM) Between Boras being his agent and the fact that he'll probably want a multi-year deal, I'm just not so sure he's a good fit. Did not know Boras was his agent, that obviously changes everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 5, 2009 -> 11:14 AM) Between Boras being his agent and the fact that he'll probably want a multi-year deal, I'm sure he's not a good fit. Edited that for ya! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 5, 2009 -> 12:13 PM) And the award for best lead dramatic actor is... I know I know. Bigtime overreaction. Just nervous about the offseason/next season like I haven't been in a really long time. We are on a very thin line to where we improve and compete or fall into the 'bad' territory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Wait. Hold Up. Jphat, doesn't like Nix? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (jphat007 @ Nov 5, 2009 -> 11:08 AM) I wouldn't mind it if he were at 2B or 3B, but he sure as s*** better not be in RF. Even with JD sucking nuts for half the season he still put up an OPS 50 points higher than Teahen. I'm really afraid this is another KW sees a guy doing awesome against us and acquires him even though he sucks against everybody else. f*** man if Nix is at 2B and Teahen is at RF we might lose 100 games. not saying the White Sox would be world beaters, but I think a healthy rotation of Peavy/Danks/Floyd and MB in the AL Central would make it difficult to lose 100. Also, are we talking D with Nix to Getz? Because OBP between Getz and Nix was .324 to .308 and you get 10 more HRs out of Nix in about 120 less PAs... Nix OPS+ was 10 points higher (neither was spectacular though) and Gets RC/G was .1 higher, 4.5 to 4.4. The glaring thing is SB, Getz 25 out of 27 to Nix 10 out of 12. However, with the 10 extra home runs in less PAs, Nix actually scored himself 10 more times than Getz moving up 1 base 15 more times. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/...xja01-bat.shtml http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/...zch01-bat.shtml Edited November 5, 2009 by SoxFan562004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balfanman Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 5, 2009 -> 12:00 PM) we all know KW likes to make the big splashes, but I think Gordo is the one player thats not going anywhere I would tend to agree. I'm just saying that with Kenny you can never say never. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 (edited) Sox are confirming it, Getz + Fields for Teahen. http://www.suntimes.com/sports/1867251,tea...rade-05.article Edited November 5, 2009 by League Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Nov 5, 2009 -> 12:16 PM) Wait. Hold Up. Jphat, doesn't like Nix? It's not even that, though Nix did have a lower OPS than Teahen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 QUOTE (jphat007 @ Nov 5, 2009 -> 11:08 AM) I wouldn't mind it if he were at 2B or 3B, but he sure as s*** better not be in RF. Even with JD sucking nuts for half the season he still put up an OPS 50 points higher than Teahen. I'm really afraid this is another KW sees a guy doing awesome against us and acquires him even though he sucks against everybody else. f*** man if Nix is at 2B and Teahen is at RF we might lose 100 games. f*** even Pods had a higher OPS than Teahen Agree. If Kenny gets Teahen and plans to start him in RF then we need to ambush him with frozen paintballs. But IMO we shouldn't be starting him anywhere. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 5, 2009 -> 11:13 AM) And the award for best lead dramatic actor is... Don't put anything past a man who whose Opening Day CF's for the last four years were Brian Anderson, Darin Erstad, Nick Swisher, and Dewayne Wise. He has a right to be afraid. Very afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 I'll say it again Nix is a better player then Chris Getz. Mark Teahen is a better player then Chris Getz. CJ Retherford will likely be a better player then Chris Getz. It adds up to me as a net gain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 QUOTE (balfanman @ Nov 5, 2009 -> 11:18 AM) I would tend to agree. I'm just saying that with Kenny you can never say never. You can say never when it comes to Gordon. He's not going anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Nov 5, 2009 -> 11:17 AM) not saying the White Sox would be world beaters, but I think a healthy rotation of Peavy/Danks/Floyd and MB in the AL Central would make it difficult to lose 100. Also, are we talking D with Nix to Getz? Because OBP between Getz and Nix was .324 to .308 and you get 10 more HRs out of Nix in about 120 less PAs... Nix OPS+ was 10 points higher (neither was spectacular though) and Gets RC/G was .1 higher, 4.5 to 4.4. The glaring thing is SB, Getz 25 out of 27 to Nix 10 out of 12. However, with the 10 extra home runs in less PAs, Nix actually scored himself 10 more times than Getz moving up 1 base 15 more times. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/...xja01-bat.shtml http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/...zch01-bat.shtml In regards to SB, don't you have to factor in games played? I'm not saying Nix would have 25, but I would imagine he'd have at least 5 more in the same amount of games, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox2334 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 http://www.suntimes.com/sports/1867251,tea...rade-05.article according to article, w sox confirmed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Nov 5, 2009 -> 12:17 PM) not saying the White Sox would be world beaters, but I think a healthy rotation of Peavy/Danks/Floyd and MB in the AL Central would make it difficult to lose 100. Also, are we talking D with Nix to Getz? Because OBP between Getz and Nix was .324 to .308 and you get 10 more HRs out of Nix in about 120 less PAs... Nix OPS+ was 10 points higher (neither was spectacular though) and Gets RC/G was .1 higher, 4.5 to 4.4. The glaring thing is SB, Getz 25 out of 27 to Nix 10 out of 12. However, with the 10 extra home runs in less PAs, Nix actually scored himself 10 more times than Getz moving up 1 base 15 more times. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/...xja01-bat.shtml http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/...zch01-bat.shtml I guess I'm not all that worried about the SB factor. Being a slow team (like we have been with the plodders) is one thing...but if you bring guys in with higher OBP and can move runners and go 1st to 3rd more often the SB wouldn't be that important IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 QUOTE (League @ Nov 5, 2009 -> 11:18 AM) Sox are confirming it, Getz + Fields for Teahen. http://www.suntimes.com/sports/1867251,tea...rade-05.article God damn it... This deal makes no sense at all. Add salary, open a hole at 2B, and we don't even get a prospect. For Mark Teahen. Wonderful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Nov 5, 2009 -> 12:17 PM) not saying the White Sox would be world beaters, but I think a healthy rotation of Peavy/Danks/Floyd and MB in the AL Central would make it difficult to lose 100. Also, are we talking D with Nix to Getz? Because OBP between Getz and Nix was .324 to .308 and you get 10 more HRs out of Nix in about 120 less PAs... Nix OPS+ was 10 points higher (neither was spectacular though) and Gets RC/G was .1 higher, 4.5 to 4.4. The glaring thing is SB, Getz 25 out of 27 to Nix 10 out of 12. However, with the 10 extra home runs in less PAs, Nix actually scored himself 10 more times than Getz moving up 1 base 15 more times. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/...xja01-bat.shtml http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/...zch01-bat.shtml Yeah but that was mostly against lefties. I worry about him playing against all righties. But it's not just about Nix. I worry about where we're going to get offense from if a guy like Teahen is expected to put up corner outfield numbers, which he cant Edited November 5, 2009 by jphat007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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