Vance Law Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 What free agent options are out there? Boston just picked up Hermida. Any other trade options? We clearly don't have any outfielders coming up from AAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 QUOTE (Vance Law @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 01:03 PM) What free agent options are out there? Boston just picked up Hermida. Any other trade options? We clearly don't have any outfielders coming up from AAA. Well, Kenny has talked up Jordan Danks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Bobby Abreu (A) Garret Anderson (B Rick Ankiel Rocco Baldelli Jason Bay (A) Marlon Byrd Mike Cameron (B Frank Catalanotto Endy Chavez Coco Crisp Carl Crawford * (B Johnny Damon (A) David Dellucci Jermaine Dye Darin Erstad Cliff Floyd Ryan Freel Brian Giles (B Ken Griffey Jr. Vladimir Guerrero (A) Eric Hinske Matt Holliday (A) Geoff Jenkins Reed Johnson Andruw Jones Gabe Kapler Austin Kearns * Mark Kotsay Hideki Matusi (B Jason Michaels Xavier Nady (B Magglio Ordonez Scott Podsednik Manny Ramirez * (A) Dave Roberts Gary Sheffield Fernando Tatis (B Randy Winn (B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 I wonder if that Dye guy has anything left in his tank. /laughter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 I could see a 1 year deal for Randy Winn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 I can see us taking a flyer on Vlad if his price isn't too high. He would be an under the radar move since all eyes will be on Holliday. I know he's a free swinger, but the Sox have been trying to get contact hitters with patience for like 5 years and it never actually happens. Just my own guess though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 01:41 PM) I can see us taking a flyer on Vlad if his price isn't too high. He would be an under the radar move since all eyes will be on Holliday. I know he's a free swinger, but the Sox have been trying to get contact hitters with patience for like 5 years and it never actually happens. Just my own guess though. Vladdy would be a nice DH candidate if we found a left handed hitting outfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 03:41 PM) I can see us taking a flyer on Vlad if his price isn't too high. He would be an under the radar move since all eyes will be on Holliday. I know he's a free swinger, but the Sox have been trying to get contact hitters with patience for like 5 years and it never actually happens. Just my own guess though. Vlad is a full time DH at this point in his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SockMe Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 I would love Bay, Damon, Byrd, Winn, Ankiel, Matsui or Reed Johnson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFirebird Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 03:42 PM) Vlad is a full time DH at this point in his career. Yeah he looks to be about as slow as Dye out there in the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFirebird Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 QUOTE (SockMe @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 04:23 PM) I would love Bay, Damon, Byrd, Winn, Ankiel, Matsui or Reed Johnson. Bay would be waaay to expensive. I could see KW wanting Damon. Winn is a possibility....not sure I like the idea though. Byrd, Ankiel and Matsui (as a DH though) intrigue me the most. I don't view Reed Johnson as a starter in the AL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simba43 Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Why not try to get Josh Hamilton the Rangers have a lot of outfielders with Borbon ,Cruz, Murphy, Boggs . So it is possible and maybe can get him for some pitching prospects plus he is cheap salary wise and under team control for a while . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SockMe Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 QUOTE (BFirebird @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 04:26 PM) Bay would be waaay to expensive. I could see KW wanting Damon. Winn is a possibility....not sure I like the idea though. Byrd, Ankiel and Matsui (as a DH though) intrigue me the most. I don't view Reed Johnson as a starter in the AL. I think Byrd could be a GOODS, cheap acquisition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Reed Johnson = Aaron Rowand Jr...no thanks. I concur about Marlon Byrd...signing him, probably at a decent price, would be a great move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Wouldn't Marlon Byrd and say a LaRoche be a relatively realistic off-season regarding our lineup. We'd have a lineup lacking a great offensive player (Beckham might turn into one as early as next year and Quentin will hopefully be one again next year) but a lot of quality players. Plus we'd have a ton of flexibility and pretty good defense (Byrd would be a very solid RF and could play CF in a pinch). The club could than focus on Jenks/Konerko and resigning our young players to some contracts. And if we move a KOnerko we'd have a hell of a lot of flexibility for his replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Cowley was bouncing around the Jenks and Danks for Carl Crawford thing. I'm still not buying it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 03:42 PM) Vlad is a full time DH at this point in his career. So is Dye and Thome I do understand Thome is a LH bat, but I rather take Vlad over him right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 I'm not big on Byrd or Reed. Not really a fan of Winn unless it's a bottom of the order hitter. To me, I rather have Matsui almost over anyone in terms of under the 'dar approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballyb11 Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 QUOTE (SockMe @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 05:47 PM) I think Byrd could be a GOODS, cheap acquisition Why would he be cheap? Good O, Good D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 05:05 PM) Wouldn't Marlon Byrd and say a LaRoche be a relatively realistic off-season regarding our lineup. We'd have a lineup lacking a great offensive player (Beckham might turn into one as early as next year and Quentin will hopefully be one again next year) but a lot of quality players. Plus we'd have a ton of flexibility and pretty good defense (Byrd would be a very solid RF and could play CF in a pinch). The club could than focus on Jenks/Konerko and resigning our young players to some contracts. And if we move a KOnerko we'd have a hell of a lot of flexibility for his replacement. LaRoche is a pretty mediocre player. He's a .350 wOBA 1B (one of only 5 1B under Konerko in '09) which puts him in the bottom 25% at that position. Basically, if you like a slightly lesser version of what Konerko did last year (accounting for the league switch) except from the left side and with 10% more K's then Adam's your man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 QUOTE (SockMe @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 02:23 PM) I would love Bay, Damon, Byrd, Winn, Ankiel, Matsui or Reed Johnson. No way that I want Damon and his noodle arm in RF. Matsui is a DH at this point in his career and I don't think that he has the arm to play RF either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 03:30 PM) LaRoche is a pretty mediocre player. He's a .350 wOBA 1B (one of only 5 1B under Konerko in '09) which puts him in the bottom 25% at that position. Basically, if you like a slightly lesser version of what Konerko did last year (accounting for the league switch) except from the left side and with 10% more K's then Adam's your man. At significantly less money. Factor in what he did in Atlanta and potential upside and he could be a bit better. Basically I'm alluding to the fact that you can get solid production out of LaRoche for cheap and he could end up being better than expected (just looking at what he did in Atlanta while playing for a contender). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 03:30 PM) LaRoche is a pretty mediocre player. He's a .350 wOBA 1B (one of only 5 1B under Konerko in '09) which puts him in the bottom 25% at that position. Basically, if you like a slightly lesser version of what Konerko did last year (accounting for the league switch) except from the left side and with 10% more K's then Adam's your man. Is that counting his numbers for the whole year or just with Atlanta? He was a totally different player in Atlanta from Pittsburgh (which of course makes me wonder how he'll hit anywhere other than Atlanta0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 03:38 PM) Is that counting his numbers for the whole year or just with Atlanta? He was a totally different player in Atlanta from Pittsburgh (which of course makes me wonder how he'll hit anywhere other than Atlanta0 That was his numbers on the whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 6, 2009 -> 05:38 PM) At significantly less money. Factor in what he did in Atlanta and potential upside and he could be a bit better. Basically I'm alluding to the fact that you can get solid production out of LaRoche for cheap and he could end up being better than expected (just looking at what he did in Atlanta while playing for a contender). He does that every year. He sucks in the first half and puts up big numbers after the all star break. Career: 1st Half: .773 OPS 2nd Half: 909 OPS 2009: 1st Half: .784 OPS 2nd Half: .915 OPS He's been in the league long enough to where you know what you're getting from him and that's a ~.353 wOBA/.840 OPS 1B. I'm also curious as to why a team would trade for a $12M Konerko when they could just sign LaRoche themselves or say Hank Blalock, Russell Branyan, Aubrey Huff or Nick Johnson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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