SoxAce Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Who knows.. maybe something can happen or be a jump start to something before the December meetings. Still interesting none-the-less. General managers' meetings give Chicago White Sox opportunity to deal Some interesting tidbits. "Surprisingly, there has been more conversation throughout the playoffs and World Series than I ever remember," Williams said Friday after announcing the acquisition of Mark Teahen from the Royals. "To be able to do something prior to the GM meetings, and have substantial talks on major things is surprising, but certainly welcome to me. We did our groundwork quite some time ago." The deal for Teahen leaves the Sox with less than $20 million to spend on the balance of the roster, and Williams has ruled out the signing of a marquee free agent, which scratches Chone Figgins off the wish list. The Rays are expected to pick up the $10 million option on Carl Crawford, so the Sox might need some creativity unless they can re-sign Podsednik at a price they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 If the Sox have less than $20M to spend right now then expect the payroll to be right at $90M on opening day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Sporting News reporting Sox among suitors for Halladay. Does that make sense to anyone? GM meetings Sporting News staff reports Comments (0)More Login or register to post commentsPrinter-friendly versionMonday, Nov. 9, 2009 - 3:22 p.m. ET As the general manager meetings get under way in Chicago, Blue Jays righthander Roy Halladay and Padres first baseman Adrian Gonzalez will be among the most sought-after trade targets. The Toronto Star speculates the Rangers, Phillies, Angels, Dodgers, Cubs, White Sox, Rockies, Astros, Mets and Tigers are the teams expected to make a run at Halladay. A deal could come by the end of next month's winter meetings. Halladay was the subject of plenty of trade talk before the July 31 nonwaiver trading deadline this season, but no team met then-general manager J.P. Ricciardi's asking price. New general manager Alex Anthopoulos told the Star that he is open-minded to making a deal and that "I think (Halladay) stressed that his timeline for winning and ours may not mesh and may not match." The availability of Gonzalez will be another hot topic at the GM meetings. The San Diego Union-Tribune noted Gonzalez hit .285 with 130 homers and 400 RBIs in his first four full major league seasons, and he is owed only $10.25 million over the next two seasons. After that, however, he likely will be priced out of the Padres' plans. A source told the newspaper it is a matter of when (not if) the team will deal Gonzalez. And there already might be signs that a trade is coming. According to the Union-Tribune, the Padres didn't include Gonzalez on a brochure mailed to prospective season-ticket buyers and haven't begun talks about a long-term extension. The Red Sox, Dodgers and Mariners all have expressed interest in Gonzalez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 The White Sox have 4 big cogs in the rotation followed up by Freddy Garcia manning the 5 spot and Hudson doing whatever the organization wants him to do. The White Sox have right around $20 mill to spend. Roy Halladay makes around $16 mill. No, that doesn't make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 9, 2009 -> 05:37 PM) The White Sox have 4 big cogs in the rotation followed up by Freddy Garcia manning the 5 spot and Hudson doing whatever the organization wants him to do. The White Sox have right around $20 mill to spend. Roy Halladay makes around $16 mill. No, that doesn't make sense. Yea, I didnt understand that either, maybe for Gonzalez but for Halladay just seems like they saw the list from last season's trade deadline and regurgitated it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 The key word in that article is "speculated." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Nov 9, 2009 -> 01:30 PM) If the Sox have less than $20M to spend right now then expect the payroll to be right at $90M on opening day. Depends on how they're counting the arb guys, doesn't it? I just get the feeling there's got to be a little more flexibility than these guys are letting on, otherwise that Teahen deal makes less sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshot7 Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 It would be the best rotation of all time but there would be no one to hit the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted November 9, 2009 Author Share Posted November 9, 2009 QUOTE (longshot7 @ Nov 9, 2009 -> 03:43 PM) It would be the best rotation of all time but there would be no one to hit the ball. Halladay-Peavy-Buehrle-Floyd-Danks.. Jesus.. I don't care if our offense blew chunks and we played the rookies Danks2 and Flowers everyday (or even Lillibridge everyday), we are not being touched. KW is always thinking big regardless if it happens. Even with talks about him, Hudson is as good as gone though I doubt we have enough or even really made a run for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 I'm not surprised to see the Sox name come up for Halladay... Because we have what Toronto wants in return... young, cheap. and talented starting pitching (like Floyd or Danks) Don't think we'll do that sort of deal unless Kenny gets really creative on other payroll issues. But... I wouldn't completely rule out the possibility either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Nov 9, 2009 -> 03:44 PM) Halladay-Peavy-Buehrle-Floyd-Danks.. Jesus.. I don't care if our offense blew chunks and we played the rookies Danks2 and Flowers everyday (or even Lillibridge everyday), we are not being touched. KW is always thinking big regardless if it happens. Even with talks about him, Hudson is as good as gone though I doubt we have enough or even really made a run for it. I would. I'd have a huge problem with that. You also can't ignore the fact that Halladay is not a free agent, you'd have to relinquish a whole hell of a lot of talent in order to acquire him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Nov 9, 2009 -> 01:48 PM) I would. I'd have a huge problem with that. You also can't ignore the fact that Halladay is not a free agent, you'd have to relinquish a whole hell of a lot of talent in order to acquire him. And Halladay is also a FA after next year, and is likely to get a really good offer from someone if he stays healthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Sounds like we won the last WS title we had with starting pitching and big boppers. This time, KW wants to go back to the Go Go White Sox with little offense, manufacturing runs, but great starting pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 (edited) I'd rather go after Holliday (he's a free agent, right? maybe I am wrong) than Halladay. Edited November 9, 2009 by Athomeboy_2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted November 9, 2009 Author Share Posted November 9, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Nov 9, 2009 -> 03:57 PM) I'd rather go after Holliday (he's a free agent, right? maybe I am wrong) than Halladay. Bora$. That's even less unlikely. QUOTE (Kalapse @ Nov 9, 2009 -> 03:48 PM) I would. I'd have a huge problem with that. You also can't ignore the fact that Halladay is not a free agent, you'd have to relinquish a whole hell of a lot of talent in order to acquire him. Win your W.S. first, deal with the other crap later. Edited November 9, 2009 by SoxAce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Nov 9, 2009 -> 03:58 PM) Bora$. That's even less unlikely. ohhhhh didnt know that. Never mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (SoxAce @ Nov 9, 2009 -> 03:44 PM) Halladay-Peavy-Buehrle-Floyd-Danks.. Jesus.. Good God don't play with my emotions like that.... I know it's just a pipe dream, but would that be fun to watch or what? Throw that pitching staff up against the yanks in a 5 or 7 game series and watch them crap their pants Edited November 9, 2009 by Chet Kincaid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Nov 9, 2009 -> 01:59 PM) Good God don't play with my emotions like that.... I know it's just a pipe dream, but would that be fun to watch or what? Throw that pitching staff up against the yanks in a 5 or 7 game series and watch them crap their pants Hell, in a 5-7 game series you only need 4 pitchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Get me the best LH hitting OF with at least some power they can trade for or buy within budget (and not trading away any of the starting pitching), pick up Ka'ahuie from KC to play 1B and move PK to DH. Flower as backup C and sometimes DH. Nix, CJ, Flowers and some 4th OF (maybe even Pods) as the bench. Garcia for 5th slot and Hudson in the pen, to slide into rotation if Freddy falters. Gives you a bullpen of Jenks/Thornton/Linebrink/Pena/Hudson/DJC/???. Leave everything else intact, except maybe picking up a bullpen arm that might fit the bill (though I think our bullpen isn't as bad as some portray it, and I think Jenks has a nice comeback year in 2010). Trade Linebrink if you can in that case, but I think he's likely to do better in 2009, maybe you trade him at the deadline if he has a solid 1st half. I honestly think that club will be a winner. I see a lot of players in there likely to improve in 2010 over 2009 (TCQ, Beckham, Ramirez, Teahen, Rios), and I think Flowers and Ka'ahuie have serious power potential that will develop nicely as rookies. The only guys who seem likely to regress are PK and AJ. Add that to what looks like a great starting rotation, and the only worries I'd have are defense and, to a limited extent, the bullpen (but the bullpen is ALWAYS a question mark). Flame away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 9, 2009 -> 04:07 PM) Get me the best LH hitting OF with at least some power they can trade for or buy within budget (and not trading away any of the starting pitching), pick up Ka'ahuie from KC to play 1B and move PK to DH. Flower as backup C and sometimes DH. Nix, CJ, Flowers and some 4th OF (maybe even Pods) as the bench. Garcia for 5th slot and Hudson in the pen, to slide into rotation if Freddy falters. Gives you a bullpen of Jenks/Thornton/Linebrink/Pena/Hudson/DJC/???. Leave everything else intact, except maybe picking up a bullpen arm that might fit the bill (though I think our bullpen isn't as bad as some portray it, and I think Jenks has a nice comeback year in 2010). Trade Linebrink if you can in that case, but I think he's likely to do better in 2009, maybe you trade him at the deadline if he has a solid 1st half. I honestly think that club will be a winner. I see a lot of players in there likely to improve in 2010 over 2009 (TCQ, Beckham, Ramirez, Teahen, Rios), and I think Flowers and Ka'ahuie have serious power potential that will develop nicely as rookies. The only guys who seem likely to regress are PK and AJ. Add that to what looks like a great starting rotation, and the only worries I'd have are defense and, to a limited extent, the bullpen (but the bullpen is ALWAYS a question mark). Flame away. Sadly with all this, you would probably still get kicked in the nads by the yankees come playoff time. It sounds good though. I'd take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 You can forget that dream rotation. Acquiring Halladay would cost at least one of Floyd or Danks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted November 9, 2009 Author Share Posted November 9, 2009 QUOTE (YASNY @ Nov 9, 2009 -> 04:10 PM) You can forget that dream rotation. Acquiring Halladay would cost at least one of Floyd or Danks. Well the sox could pull it off without giving up those two, but it would probably cost Beckham which would be a terrible idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Danks and Floyd are no longer cheap. Dotel and Dye are Type A free agents by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Nov 9, 2009 -> 05:21 PM) Danks and Floyd are no longer cheap. Dotel and Dye are Type A free agents by the way. Floyd is cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Nov 9, 2009 -> 02:21 PM) Dotel and Dye are Type A free agents by the way. But neither of them will be offered arbitration, so it doesn't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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