justBLAZE Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 (edited) "I don't think it's fair to label a guy as declining because of two or three months,'' Dye said. "That's just the way my second half was. For me to go through that one time in 13 years, that's pretty good. "People said the same thing about me in Oakland when I came back from the broken leg [after the 2002 season] and played bad. What happened? I played five years of great baseball. I'll keep proving people wrong.'' "There are a number of teams I've heard already that would love to have me,'' Dye said. "I know one thing, I will not be DHing. You can put that down. If a team wants to try me out at first base on an every day basis I'll do that. That's something I feel will be easy to learn. But as far as DHing that's not for me. Teams shouldn't call if that's their plan.'' Read it here. EDIT: I noticed the same post in the Sox Meetings thread, I feel like it deserves its own thread, move accordingly. Edited November 11, 2009 by tommy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 If he doesn't wanna play DH they should refrain from even calling his agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 If only we could be lucky enough that someone would jump in and sign him before the arbitration-offer deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Hmm, I honestly wouldn't mind JD at 1B on the cheap, PK moved with Jenks for an impact player or two and signing a major player. Sounds too good though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaus kinski Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 He forgot to point out he failed in consecutive seasons at critical points and to eliminate the DH isnt gonna add teams that will sign him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Gotta love Dye using the Rios arrival as an excuse. I love Jermaine's contributions during his time here, but there's no doubt in my mind that he's one of the veterans we keep hearing about that might have been too comfortable in the clubhouse and didn't really like the influx of young players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 10, 2009 -> 08:58 PM) Gotta love Dye using the Rios arrival as an excuse. I love Jermaine's contributions during his time here, but there's no doubt in my mind that he's one of the veterans we keep hearing about that might have been too comfortable in the clubhouse and didn't really like the influx of young players. I was just going to say, he sounds a bit bitter and defensive (because god knows he couldn't be defensive in the outfield) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 11, 2009 -> 03:02 AM) I was just going to say, he sounds a bit bitter and defensive (because god knows he couldn't be defensive in the outfield) Nothing new, it was blatantly obvious during the 2nd half of last year that he was unhappy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Nov 10, 2009 -> 07:18 PM) Hmm, I honestly wouldn't mind JD at 1B on the cheap, PK moved with Jenks for an impact player or two and signing a major player. Sounds too good though. Let me get this straight. We want to put out a 36 year old not-so-mobile career outfielder as our starting 1st baseman. Put me down as a guy who votes pass on that idea. Its either DH or find another team. Sure his bat probably comes back. The terrible defense and multiyear contract that he would require isn't work the risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 10, 2009 -> 08:58 PM) Gotta love Dye using the Rios arrival as an excuse. I love Jermaine's contributions during his time here, but there's no doubt in my mind that he's one of the veterans we keep hearing about that might have been too comfortable in the clubhouse and didn't really like the influx of young players. He did the samething when his contract was about to expire and the Dye to Boston rumors started. He really strikes me as mentally weak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Nov 10, 2009 -> 09:16 PM) Let me get this straight. We want to put out a 36 year old not-so-mobile career outfielder as our starting 1st baseman. Put me down as a guy who votes pass on that idea. Its either DH or find another team. Sure his bat probably comes back. The terrible defense and multiyear contract that he would require isn't work the risk. How mobile do you have to be to play 1B in USCF? Besides being 6'6" might be his best asset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Please go to an NL team so we don't have to face yet another motivated guy to kick our ass. That won't happen, so go to Texas. The Rangers beat us always anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 11, 2009 -> 12:56 AM) Please go to an NL team so we don't have to face yet another motivated guy to kick our ass. That won't happen, so go to Texas. The Rangers beat us always anyway. Would you root for dye if he went to another team in the division like you do for crede? Even when their at-bats can be the difference in a win or loss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 (edited) Typical case of a great (or in this case really good) player that can't accept the fact that he's not what he once was. I'll never say anything negative about JD that's not performance related. I just can't. I've got too much respect for the man. And he does have a point that last year's second half could've been a fluke. But for him to act like he would be insulted to DH? With the way his D has fallen off the last few years? Supreme denial at its finest. Edited November 11, 2009 by Jordan4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 If the cubs unload Bradley, I could see them signing Dye to play RF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 I'm not bashing Dye - but he also fell apart in '08 too when we needed him most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balfanman Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 10, 2009 -> 09:58 PM) Gotta love Dye using the Rios arrival as an excuse. I love Jermaine's contributions during his time here, but there's no doubt in my mind that he's one of the veterans we keep hearing about that might have been too comfortable in the clubhouse and didn't really like the influx of young players. I really have to agree with you Fathom. The reaction from some of the vets on the Sox really bothered me when they brought in Rios. Here your G. M. is bringing in players to try to help your team win, and we apparently had some veterans who were worried about their playing time. I don't know who all these players were for sure but we do know the J. D. was one of them. Worry about winning first and your contract will take care of itself. Again, I'm not in the clubhouse and I really don't have any inside information other than the media. But with the Rios thing, the Swisher thing, the Getz thing, and other issues that I'm not remembering; I believe that it's time to replace the leadership in the clubhouse. It would not upset me at all to have Dye, Konerko, and maybe others gone for the 2010 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 It says a lot about how good and fun it must be to play for the White Sox given that everyone we boot gets so pissed about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 I think JD is making a mistake by saying he won't play at DH. I suppose there are a few teams that will seek him out to play RF (or 1st as he says), but there would be more team (White Sox included) that would consider him at DH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 11, 2009 -> 08:39 AM) It says a lot about how good and fun it must be to play for the White Sox given that everyone we boot gets so pissed about it. Good point. You don't hear many who are excited by leaving anymore. Boy has that changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 11, 2009 -> 10:33 AM) Good point. You don't hear many who are excited by leaving anymore. Boy has that changed. Yeah, the only ones I can recall in the KW era are Orlando Cabrera and Bobby Howry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 11, 2009 -> 10:54 AM) Yeah, the only ones I can recall in the KW era are Orlando Cabrera and Bobby Howry. Actually O-Cab wanted to stay. KW told him to stay away though because they would make his life miserable by benching him if he decided to accept arbitration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Nov 11, 2009 -> 05:34 PM) Actually O-Cab wanted to stay. KW told him to stay away though because they would make his life miserable by benching him if he decided to accept arbitration. He did? He talked some s*** after he left about the club, didn't sound to me like he enjoyed his time here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 11, 2009 -> 03:59 PM) He did? He talked some s*** after he left about the club, didn't sound to me like he enjoyed his time here. He wanted to stay...in the sense that he could probably tell he'd make more in arbitration than he would if he declined it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 11, 2009 -> 05:59 PM) He did? He talked some s*** after he left about the club, didn't sound to me like he enjoyed his time here. He talked because they didn't want him back, told him not to accept arbitration because they would bench him, and the Sox talked about him on his way out. Money was a motivating factor for the most part though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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