Krivanka Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 GG guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 I'm really sick of Koch. Hell, I could pitch better than him with my 65 mph fastball and 50 mph changeup. none of the hitters would be ready for me since there'd be no scouting report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 he swung alright, but missed the ball. 2 outs, maggs up. Its silent in the cell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 I'm really sick of Koch. Hell, I could pitch better than him with my 65 mph fastball and 50 mph changeup. none of the hitters would be ready for me since there'd be no scouting report. You'd beat the Sox in your first outing anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 You think that he will never pitch like he has in the past again? Geez, you guys are quick to give up the ship on players...I guess when Buehrle was 2-10, everyone was yelling, "Get rid of him...he is awful!!" I don't hear people saying the same about White....he is garbage, at least Koch has the possibility of getting back to Koch form...I swear the guy has a dead arm, and won't tell anyone...seems like the coaching staff could figure it out...almost 100 IP last year, Beane wears em out, then trades em away...and there are dicksmokes like KW there ready to take on the trades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 bottom of 9th: Lee- strikeout Thomas- strikeout Maggs- ground out to SS and, the win streak is over and i bet Hawk is very happy right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 And that ends it. The streak is over as Tampa wins 10-6 Well no ground lost on the bright side, lets start it up again tommorrow guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 Sox lose. f*** White, f*** Porzio, f*** Manuel, f*** Koch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiff Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 Sox lose. f*** White, f*** Porzio, f*** Manuel, f*** Koch Damn you koch, giving up the 10th run in a 10-6 game. Way to lose it for us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 Actaully I hate White as well but considered him a mop up guy not a closer. To answer your question, NO I do not believe Koch will get back to form this year. I have no confidence in that at all, nor do I beleive we should pay him 6 million next year to take that chance. I would rather put that 6 million into a better shortstop or try to keep colon or get another starter. Sorry Koch ahs proven nothing to me this year, and if he has a dead arm its the longest streak of dead arm I have ever seen. (ALL YEAR) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 Sox lose. f*** White, f*** Porzio, f*** Manuel, f*** Koch Damn you koch, giving up the 10th run in a 10-6 game. Way to lose it for us! Yeah...really, that 10th run....c'mon you f***nut Koch!!! We coulda scored 3 more in the 9th...but they knew they couldnt score 4, so they gave up....chalk this one up to Koch again....assclown!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molto Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 a lot of Sox fans have short memories for most guys and long memories for others. we snapped our eight game winning streak, so we now suck. White, who has been solid over the past month and a half, now sucks. Porzio, who was did his job in his first two starts, now sucks Manuel, who really didn't do anything wrong this game, sucks Koch, who although has been terrible this year, has had a good career overall, now sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 Actaully I hate White as well but considered him a mop up guy not a closer. To answer your question, NO I do not believe Koch will get back to form this year. I have no confidence in that at all, nor do I beleive we should pay him 6 million next year to take that chance. I would rather put that 6 million into a better shortstop or try to keep colon or get another starter. Sorry Koch ahs proven nothing to me this year, and if he has a dead arm its the longest streak of dead arm I have ever seen. (ALL YEAR) Dude, look how much he was used last year...he doesnt have his velocity...thats not something he lost in the couch cushions...theres a problem....oh, and yeah...we should resign Colon because he has been SO consistently good in a Sox uniform so far. He really looks like he is compassionate about pitching for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fainter Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 I was actually feeling sorry for Koch when he had the bags loaded with no outs. But just one run scored. He is not the same pitcher he used to be. He got took old, it looks like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 Sox lose. f*** White, f*** Porzio, f*** Manuel, f*** Koch Damn you koch, giving up the 10th run in a 10-6 game. Way to lose it for us! Of course it didnt matter, it just doesnt really help the teams morale knowing everytime Koch comes in they will have to score one more run. He will be gone by the 31st, guaranteed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 cap, then I guess what your saying is we shouldn't have signed Koch to begin with because he was used so much last year. If that is what your saying I agree, which is another reason why I want him gone.. This just in Porzio optioned back...Ginter up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 cap, then I guess what your saying is we shouldn't have signed Koch to begin with because he was used so much last year. If that is what your saying I agree, which is another reason why I want him gone.. This just in Porzio optioned back...Ginter up What. The. f***. 4 man rotation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 I say that someone shoulda checked the guy out 1st...1)It was KW dealing with Beane, so something is up automatically...2)Its KW, he shoulda known to check Kochs overuse from last year...I still think he can get it back, but someone has to diagnose the problem correctly.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 cap, then I guess what your saying is we shouldn't have signed Koch to begin with because he was used so much last year. If that is what your saying I agree, which is another reason why I want him gone.. This just in Porzio optioned back...Ginter up Seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loaiza21 Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 Hmm Ginter used to keep us in games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loaiza21 Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 Ginter has been closing? He's going to start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 Hmm Ginter used to keep us in games. Too bad he's a reliever. Why not use bring up, say, Diaz and let him work out of the pen on his usual starting date, and try to milk 5 out of him his first start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 I always liked ginter, but we need a starter up here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 ok, I think that is sound, but I still have no confidence he will come back this year, therefore we are paying a guy 4.5 million and 6 next year. If something is wrong, lets say he has surgery at the end of this year. wasted money... My point is I don't think he will come back for whatever reason... doesn't matter what the reason is. He is not worth the money, therefore costing us payroll to use on other players. I would love to cut my loses now, but no body will take this guy and his salary. So we are stuck. Stcik with him if you want, but I and apparently the whitesox do not want this guy closing games. He is in a season long slump. Not a two week slump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loaiza21 Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 Jerry's probably going to start Glover...Ewww. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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