simba43 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 QUOTE (shakes @ Nov 22, 2009 -> 11:59 AM) Why does everyone assume he would play in Seattle? Matsui doesn't have a good relationship with Ichiro. In fact, it's been long talked about that they don't like each other. Just recently, Matsui backed out of the WBC when Ichiro committed. Their rivalry supposedly goes back to when they were teenagers. Just because they are from the same country doesn't mean they want to play with together. Look at Renteria and Orlando Cabrera. when i was stationed in Japan sometimes i would watch Ichiro play he played for the Orix Blue Wave which was in the Pacific league while Matsui was with the Giants up North in the Central league. They were both popular there but Matsui was more popular because he was playing in Tokyo . i believed they only played once against each other in the Japanese world series . i enjoyed going to Fukuoka to watch games the manager of the Fukuoka team the Seibu Lions was Sadaharu Oh and we got his autograph many times . Japanese baseball is fun to watch in person they really get into it as fans and the teams have cheerleaders which is fun to watch . One time me and a buddy went to a game and we met Darren Jackson after the game he took us out to dinner he was so happy to see other Americans over there . We had similar experiances with other American players when they came over on the tour there believe it or not i had breakfast with Cal Ripken JR and met many players there and had some interesting things happen with players and even the CUBAN female volleyball team god i enjoyed those 4yrs station in Japan . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCangelosi Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 I can't see us paying much more than $5M for this position this year unless we make some trades and free up some room under our "cap", which leads me to believe we're going to try to force the hand of the available DH's out there who don't get offers and low ball em as they won't have other options at that point. I think this is why KW said we won't address this position most likely until the end of the offseason. If no one offers Chop Sui anything, perhaps we can come at him with a 1 or 2 yr deal that is acceptable to us and we can snag him up. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHITESOXRANDY Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 I think he'd be a perfect fit for the Sox at DH on a 2-year deal. Just add Pods to Vizquel and the Sox are set. I think they'd win the division but that might bring the payroll to $ 110 mil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Nov 22, 2009 -> 06:44 AM) I can't see us paying much more than $5M for this position this year unless we make some trades and free up some room under our "cap", which leads me to believe we're going to try to force the hand of the available DH's out there who don't get offers and low ball em as they won't have other options at that point. I think this is why KW said we won't address this position most likely until the end of the offseason. If no one offers Chop Sui anything, perhaps we can come at him with a 1 or 2 yr deal that is acceptable to us and we can snag him up. Thoughts? This is unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 22, 2009 -> 08:04 AM) This is unacceptable. They don't even eat Chop Suey in Japan... On another note, I honestly don't see any team going after Matsui with mad money. Seattle might do it, but they have Griffey as a full time DH. I don't think they want to bench him, even though they should. At this point, he's just a DH and hitters that can only be a DH aren't worth much of anything in terms of value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCangelosi Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 22, 2009 -> 08:04 AM) This is unacceptable. I assume you're serious? I live in Europe, where people are more relaxed and not paranoid about the little things in life, so I guess the culture here is rubbing off on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Nov 22, 2009 -> 11:35 AM) I assume you're serious? I live in Europe, where people are more relaxed and not paranoid about the little things in life, so I guess the culture here is rubbing off on me. JC, I did not find it personally offensive, but to respect others, we need to be safe, rather than sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 I think we'd be very lucky to have him as a DH, really balances the lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 For what it's worth.... the Score just mentioned that the Sox might be pursuing Matsui, and that would Quentin to move over to RF... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 7, 2009 Author Share Posted December 7, 2009 QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Dec 7, 2009 -> 04:07 PM) For what it's worth.... the Score just mentioned that the Sox might be pursuing Matsui, and that would Quentin to move over to RF... Did you add the Quentin move part, or did they say that on the Score? Because I assume they'd want Matsui for DH, not OF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Dec 7, 2009 -> 04:07 PM) For what it's worth.... the Score just mentioned that the Sox might be pursuing Matsui, and that would Quentin to move over to RF... Matsui isn't even capable of playing the outfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 7, 2009 -> 04:08 PM) Matsui isn't even capable of playing the outfield. That's what I was thinking. Aren't we trying to upgrade the outfield defense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 7, 2009 -> 04:08 PM) Did you add the Quentin move part, or did they say that on the Score? Because I assume they'd want Matsui for DH, not OF. That's what they said on the Score update on the Winter Meetings. I didn't add it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox2334 Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/white-sox/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 7, 2009 Author Share Posted December 7, 2009 QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Dec 7, 2009 -> 04:11 PM) That's what they said on the Score update on the Winter Meetings. I didn't add it. I'd be shocked they wanted him for the OF. I think there is a 90% chance the Score just added that supposition without researching anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox2334 Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 ozzie guillen was fielded with alot of questions about matsui today. I posted link from chicago sports.com article which has alot of good talk from ozzie about matsui. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 QUOTE (chisox2334 @ Dec 7, 2009 -> 04:11 PM) http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/white-sox/ So it's speculation that they'd be interested in Matsui and an assumption that he'd play left because Ozzie has been talking about moving Quentin to right. His 'as of today' outfield did have Jones in left and Quentin in right. Sounds like a whole lot of nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 7, 2009 Author Share Posted December 7, 2009 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 7, 2009 -> 04:14 PM) So it's speculation that they'd be interested in Matsui and an assumption that he'd play left because Ozzie has been talking about moving Quentin to right. His 'as of today' outfield did have Jones in left and Quentin in right. Sounds like a whole lot of nothing. Yeah, I think the only noteworthy part of this is that the Sox are probably talking to Matsui, which isn't a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox2334 Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 ChiTribRogers 1. Ozzie Guillen says White Sox won't pursue Hideki Matsui unless they're convinced he can play outfield. Not in the market for a pure DH from phil rogers tweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 7, 2009 -> 04:14 PM) So it's speculation that they'd be interested in Matsui and an assumption that he'd play left because Ozzie has been talking about moving Quentin to right. His 'as of today' outfield did have Jones in left and Quentin in right. Sounds like a whole lot of nothing. You cannot have an outfield with Matsui/Rios/Quentin. Rios is a good defender, but he's not that good... Hell, I don't think there's a center fielder alive that can cover that much ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Ran across a tweet that we are interested in Juan Pierre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Dec 7, 2009 -> 06:17 PM) You cannot have an outfield with Matsui/Rios/Quentin. Rios is a good defender, but he's not that good... Hell, I don't think there's a center fielder alive that can cover that much ground. [in best Hawk voice] Carlos Gomez, fastest man alive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Do people think CQ would be a disaster in RF because of the foot or do they think he simply can't play the position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Matsui is the perfect fit for DH, and I think we have a great chance of getting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 7, 2009 -> 04:30 PM) Do people think CQ would be a disaster in RF because of the foot or do they think he simply can't play the position? I would be afraid he would get hurt running after a ball. Plus he isn't that fast, is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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