Kalapse Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Rotoworld continues to confuse: The Astros have offered arbitration to right-hander Jose Valverde, but not shortstop Miguel Tejada or right-handers LaTroy Hawkins or Doug Brocail. It shouldn't hurt to offer Valverde (a Type A) arbitration, as he should catch on elsewhere. The Astros are believed to have an offer on the table for Hawkins (Type B ) to return, so it's possible they iron out a new deal, however he should have a few more suitors now that he won't cost a draft pick. Tejada (Type A) could find a move to third base in his future. I'm also almost positive that Hawkins is a Type A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Just dawned on me that the Sox would have to overpay a decent backup catcher to come here. They'll always feel threatened by Flowers as far as playing time. Olivo has been brawling with us a few years now it seems, I wonder if he hates us at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 1, 2009 -> 02:29 PM) Which Type A's will be offered arbitration? So far: YES Scutaro Betancourt Valverde NO Dye Dotel Gregg Polanco Tejada Hawkins Cabrera (can't) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Just curious... we have some minor league free agents in the system, i.e. Ehren Wassermann, the infamous David Cook, Restovich, etc. For minor league FA's, is there a deadline for when they need to be signed by current team? Any good source of info on where they go? Also, guys like Wassermann who have played in the majors (like Williams last year), are you considering them on the list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 1, 2009 -> 03:21 PM) Just curious... we have some minor league free agents in the system, i.e. Ehren Wassermann, the infamous David Cook, Restovich, etc. For minor league FA's, is there a deadline for when they need to be signed by current team? Any good source of info on where they go? Also, guys like Wassermann who have played in the majors (like Williams last year), are you considering them on the list? I don't think there's a deadline, once they're minor league free agents they're free to sign with any team, if you don't think they can re-sign them and don't want to risk losing them then you can add the player to the 40 man roster but other than that they can sign where ever they want at any time once they file. As for the second part: no, players like Wassermann are of little to no consequence, these are mostly Major League free agents. The list would be ridiculously long if I included minor league free agents with a cup of coffee on their resume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Type A's: YES Scutaro Betancourt Valverde NO Dye Dotel Gregg Polanco Tejada Hawkins Cabrera (can't) Damon Wolf O. Hudson Almost no one is being offered arbitration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk23 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 (edited) Add Calero and Johnson to the no list as well. Both had great years and should be worth pursuing. Calero made 500k this year and still the Marlins refused arb. Ridiculous. Edited December 1, 2009 by chunk23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 YES Scutaro Betancourt Valverde M. Gonzalez R. Soriano Holliday NO Dye Dotel Gregg Polanco Tejada Hawkins Cabrera (can't) Damon Wolf O. Hudson Soriano and Gonzalez were both offered arb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 (edited) Holliday will be according to local radio, but not Glaus. Edited December 1, 2009 by Leonard Zelig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 for reference Washington Nationals- Decline Arbitration for Livan Hernandez, Austin Kearns, Josh Bard, Dmitri Young, Ron Villone Los Angeles Angels- Offer Arbitration to Chone Figgins, John Lackey, Decline Arbitration for Vlad Guerrero, Darren Oliver, Kelvim Escobar, Robb Quinlann Tampa Bay Rays- Offer Arbitration to Brian Shouse, Gregg Zaun, undecided on Russ Springer St Louis Cardinals- Offer Arbitration to Matt Holiday, Joel Pineiro, Mark DeRosa, Decline Arbitration for Troy Glaus Seattle Mariners- Offer Arbitration to Adrian Beltre, Decline Arbitration for Erik Bedard Boston Red Sox- Offer Arbitration to Jason Bay, Billy Wagner Oakland Athletics- Offer Arbitration to Justin Duchscherer New York Mets- Decline Arbitration for Carlos Delgado, Gary Sheffield, Fernanda Tatis, Elmer Dessens Detroit Tigers- Offer Arbitration to Brandon Lyon, Fernando Rodney, Decline Arbitration for Placido Polanco Milwaukee Brewers- Decline Arbitration for Braden Looper, David Weathers, Felipe Lopez, Jason Kendall, and Mike Cameron Texas Rangers- Offer Arbitration to Marlon Byrd, Ivan Rodriguez Atlanta Braves- Offer Arbitration to Rafael Soriano and Mike Gonzalez,Decline Arbitration for Adam LaRoche, Garret Anderson Florida Marlins- Decline Arbitration for Kiko Calero, Ross Gload, Brendan Donnelly, Nick Johnson New York Yankees- Decline Arbitration for Johnny Damon, Andy Pettitte, Xavier Nady, and Hideki Matsui Minnesota Twins- Offer Arbitration to Carl Pavano Los Angeles Dodgers- Decline Arbitration for Orlando Hudson, Randy Wolf, Guillermo Mota, Jon Garland, Ronnie Belliard, Vicente Padilla, and Will Ohman. Houston Astros- Offer Arbitration to Jose Valverde, Decline Arbitration for Miguel Tejada, LaTroy Hawkins, and Doug Brocail Chicago Cubs- Decline Arbitration for Chad Fox, Rich Harden, Reed Johnson, Kevin Gregg Kansas City Royals- Decline Arbitration for Miguel Olivo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 /I wonder how cheap it would be to get Garland? "We're getting the band back together!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 1, 2009 -> 08:56 PM) /I wonder how cheap it would be to get Garland? "We're getting the band back together!" Garland, Olivo, Cameron, Gload. We can have a few bands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 1, 2009 -> 10:00 PM) Garland, Olivo, Cameron, Gload. We can have a few bands ...and only Garland's had a #1 hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 So in the end only 10 Type A free agents were offered arbitration: Marco Scutaro Rafael Betancourt Jose Valverde Mike Gonzalez Rafael Soriano Matt Holliday Jason Bay Billy Wagner Chone Figgins John Lackey And 13 Type B free agents: Ivan Rodriguez Rod Barajas Gregg Zaun Adrian Beltre Mark DeRosa Marlon Byrd Justin Duchscherer Carl Pavano Jason Marquis Joel Pineiro Brian Shouse Fernando Rodney Brandon Lyon They have until December 7th to decide whether or not to accept the offer of arbitration. If they decline and are signed by another club all Type A free agents will net their original club 2 draft picks, 1 being a 1st round (unless he's signed by a team with a top 16 pick then the former club will receive a 2nd round pick as compensation) and the other being a compensator pick between rounds 1 and 2. A type B free agent will net their former club a comp pick between rounds 1 and 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prochisox Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 (edited) Source: Braves, closer Wagner agree to deal The Braves did not take long to find a new closer. The team reached preliminary agreement Tuesday with free-agent left-hander Billy Wagner on a one-year, $7 million contract with a vesting option for a second season, according to a major-league source. The deal will become official once Wagner passes a physical, which he will take in Atlanta on Wednesday. The vesting option, worth $6.5 million, will become guaranteed if Wagner finishes 50 games next season. Wagner, 38, would become the most significant player to change teams this offseason. He made a strong and rapid recovery from Tommy John surgery last season, working a pair of scoreless innings after returning to the Mets, then posting a 1.98 ERA in 13 appearances after getting traded to the Red Sox and serving in a setup role. His return to closing with the Braves would give him a chance to earn the 40 saves he needs to pass John Franco for the all-time record among left-handed pitchers. The Red Sox offered salary arbitration Tuesday to Wagner, a Type A free agent. If Wagner passes his physical, the Sox will receive the Braves' first-round pick next season — the 20th overall — plus a supplemental pick between the first and second rounds. Their selection from the Braves could drop to a second rounder if Atlanta signs a higher-ranking Type A free agent, but that is unlikely. The Braves offered salary arbitration Tuesday to their own Type A free- agent relievers, left-hander Mike Gonzalez and righty Rafael Soriano. Either or both could accept one-year, non-guaranteed contracts, but both are drawing strong multi-year interest from other clubs, sources say. The loss of either Gonzalez or Soriano would enable the Braves to recover the picks they would lose for signing Wagner. The losses of both would leave them with two additional picks. Edited December 2, 2009 by GO CHI SOX! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 1, 2009 -> 11:29 PM) So in the end only 10 Type A free agents were offered arbitration: Marco Scutaro Rafael Betancourt Jose Valverde Mike Gonzalez Rafael Soriano Matt Holliday Jason Bay Billy Wagner Chone Figgins John Lackey And 13 Type B free agents: Ivan Rodriguez Rod Barajas Gregg Zaun Adrian Beltre Mark DeRosa Marlon Byrd Justin Duchscherer Carl Pavano Jason Marquis Joel Pineiro Brian Shouse Fernando Rodney Brandon Lyon They have until December 7th to decide whether or not to accept the offer of arbitration. If they decline and are signed by another club all Type A free agents will net their original club 2 draft picks, 1 being a 1st round (unless he's signed by a team with a top 16 pick then the former club will receive a 2nd round pick as compensation) and the other being a compensator pick between rounds 1 and 2. A type B free agent will net their former club a comp pick between rounds 1 and 2. Zaun a Type B? That may have turned out to be a fantastic trade by Tampa, assuming he doesn't retire (and I don't believe he wants to) and someone signs him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 1, 2009 -> 09:00 PM) Garland, Olivo, Cameron, Gload. We can have a few bands Gload signed a new 2 year deal already, to stay with FLA. Sadly, he won't be returning to the South Side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 1, 2009 -> 11:29 PM) So in the end only 10 Type A free agents were offered arbitration: Marco Scutaro Rafael Betancourt Jose Valverde Mike Gonzalez Rafael Soriano Matt Holliday Jason Bay Billy Wagner Chone Figgins John Lackey And 13 Type B free agents: Ivan Rodriguez Rod Barajas Gregg Zaun Adrian Beltre Mark DeRosa Marlon Byrd Justin Duchscherer Carl Pavano Jason Marquis Joel Pineiro Brian Shouse Fernando Rodney Brandon Lyon They have until December 7th to decide whether or not to accept the offer of arbitration. If they decline and are signed by another club all Type A free agents will net their original club 2 draft picks, 1 being a 1st round (unless he's signed by a team with a top 16 pick then the former club will receive a 2nd round pick as compensation) and the other being a compensator pick between rounds 1 and 2. A type B free agent will net their former club a comp pick between rounds 1 and 2. I predict this is the group of FAs that could still be on the sidelines as we enter February. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Daddy Kool Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 2, 2009 -> 08:27 AM) I predict this is the group of FAs that could still be on the sidelines as we enter February. Soriano and Gonzalez will probably be signed before then as there is demand for both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Great work in here guys. Thanks to all, and especially, Kal, for your efforts. "So I say to the Dalai Lama, 'How about a little something, you know, for the effort?'" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Billy Wagner got $7 million? Talk about overpaying! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Wow, Red Sox got Wagner and now get a couple picks as comp for him. Damn, I really wanted the Sox to grab him (last year at the waiver-deadline). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Supposedly Polanco is close to a 3 year deal with the Phillies to play 3B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 09:28 AM) Supposedly Polanco is close to a 3 year deal with the Phillies to play 3B 3 years? Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 09:30 AM) 3 years? Wow. $18M total. That's an incredible haul for Polanco. I'm curious as to what Boras' asking price is for Adrian Beltre if the Phillies would rather shell out $18M for a 34 year old Placido Polanco who had a down year at the plate in 2009 and hasn't played the position since 2005 and a total of 153 INN since 2003. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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