hi8is Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 "Daniel Cabrera is in search of a 40-man roster spot on some team this winter." - MLB Trade Rumors KW has always been in love with this guy. I like the odds of him being brought in to compete with freddy and be a guy from the pen who is a backup starter along with hudson. just a guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 25, 2009 -> 09:01 PM) "Daniel Cabrera is in search of a 40-man roster spot on some team this winter." - MLB Trade Rumors KW has always been in love with this guy. I like the odds of him being brought in to compete with freddy and be a guy from the pen who is a backup starter along with hudson. just a guess. 2 years ago, I would have agreed with you. Not anymore. Please, we just said goodbye to Jose...don't bring in his less-talented and equally as frustrating long-lost cousin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Coop could... well there are somethings even Coop can't do.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 How many 40 man spots do we have available still? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 25, 2009 -> 08:07 PM) How many 40 man spots do we have available still? 1 with a couple of duds on there that should probably be dropped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I can't believe he is still only 28. (going on 29 in May) Seems like he's been around (or been talked about) forever since I started posting on soxtalk back in early 2004. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Nov 25, 2009 -> 08:11 PM) 1 with a couple of duds on there that should probably be dropped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 26, 2009 Author Share Posted November 26, 2009 i'm suprised he blows that much now - i guess i don't know how bad he's been of late anyone got a quick run down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 25, 2009 -> 08:21 PM) i'm suprised he blows that much now - i guess i don't know how bad he's been of late anyone got a quick run down? Between Washington and Arizona last season, 0-6 with 6.00 ERA, 1.98 WHIP, 7.4BB/9... just ugly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 QUOTE (bschmaranz @ Nov 25, 2009 -> 09:08 PM) Between Washington and Arizona last season, 0-6 with 6.00 ERA, 1.98 WHIP, 7.4BB/9... just ugly. he used to be a real good basketball player right? maybe he should consider that instead lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Nov 25, 2009 -> 10:20 PM) he used to be a real good basketball player right? maybe he should consider that instead lol He actually used to be a ss, if I'm not mistaken... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 25, 2009 -> 09:22 PM) He actually used to be a ss, if I'm not mistaken... yea but i remember reading somewhere that in the d.r. he used to be good at basketball and could of gone either way ...found a clip only " ...High School in Loma de Cabrera, DR, where he played baseball and basketball" Edited November 26, 2009 by Melissa1334 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 has there been any attempt to convert him to a reliever yet? The guy has an electric arm, maybe he just needs to utilize it differently. I am not opposed to seeing if he can be long relief or maybe even set-up if he can get his stuff together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 25, 2009 -> 10:01 PM) has there been any attempt to convert him to a reliever yet? The guy has an electric arm, maybe he just needs to utilize it differently. I am not opposed to seeing if he can be long relief or maybe even set-up if he can get his stuff together. The problem is people have been saying this for 3 years now. At some point, you just have to realize that he is what he is (incredibly inconsistent and frustrating). I wouldn't be opposed to a minor league signing, but I'd have to see consistent, lasting improvement before I would even consider bringing him to the big league club. Leo Mazzone had a shot at this kid and got nowhere, and I'm sure Jim Palmer has spent time with him. I just don't know how long you keep banging your head against the wall with a guy like this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 25, 2009 -> 10:05 PM) The problem is people have been saying this for 3 years now. At some point, you just have to realize that he is what he is (incredibly inconsistent and frustrating). I wouldn't be opposed to a minor league signing, but I'd have to see consistent, lasting improvement before I would even consider bringing him to the big league club. Leo Mazzone had a shot at this kid and got nowhere, and I'm sure Jim Palmer has spent time with him. I just don't know how long you keep banging your head against the wall with a guy like this... I know, but everyone has been starting him. Some great relievers over the years were just horrid starters and found their niche as relievers. If it has been tried and he failed at that too, well that makes things a bit different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 25, 2009 -> 10:07 PM) I know, but everyone has been starting him. Some great relievers over the years were just horrid starters and found their niche as relievers. If it has been tried and he failed at that too, well that makes things a bit different. Looks like the DBacks tried to bring him out of the pen last year to similar results. Obviously, the sample size is small (5 games, 11 IP), but from that small sample size, it was the same old song and dance... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I wholeheartedly agree that he needs to prove it in the minors before he comes up, but it worries me that he would be proving it in Charlotte. It seems like good numbers in Charlotte never seem to translate in Chicago. Unless your name is Gordon Beckham, that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 The most I would offer the guy is a minor league contract with an invite to spring training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 25, 2009 -> 10:15 PM) I wholeheartedly agree that he needs to prove it in the minors before he comes up, but it worries me that he would be proving it in Charlotte. It seems like good numbers in Charlotte never seem to translate in Chicago. Unless your name is Gordon Beckham, that is. Well, the strike zone down in Charlotte should be pretty similar to that in Chicago. So I'd just tell him that until he gets his walk rate down to something reasonable, he's never going to smell Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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