rowand's rowdies Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 OK, First off. I DO NOT LIKE BARRY BONDS. I don't really want him on the White Sox. I don't think it will work out. BUT let's play devil's advocate. We have a DH Spot to fill and need a power hitting lefty. We've gone the Jim Thome route, and although he said he wants to come back, will he? Does Kenny want him back? I say Yes, bring back Jimmy. Not as an every day DH, but what a nice PH option and a guy who can start against righties. But let's say we don't. Last year, a team stuck with it's arrogant, team cancer, steroid user named Alex Rodriquez. Some people (even non Yankee fans) got off him as soon as he started to hit. Even more when he hit in clutch situations. The crowd still came, the people still cheered, and they won a WS. We just signed a guy in Andrew Jones who has been speculated to be a steroid user. Do the fans really care that much anymore? Are we all just tired of it enough to let it go? NOW let's look at Barry Bonds: POWER - Check FIT AT THE CELL - Check WALKS - Check Because of his situation, we can prolly sign him on a highly peformance basis. Maybe $5 mil base with up to $5 mil more in incentives? The jersey sales would be huge and it would sell tickets, like it or not it would help the White Sox bottom line at the right price. For those of you that are educated, you know that steroids, even prolonged use, will only add at most 10% on distance of batted balls. When the guy is hitting 420 foot dingers, those liners make it out by plenty anywhere in US Cellular even w/o steroids. If not, they are gapers or off the wall. He will clearly be off steroids and will have to be tested publicly to get back in. If he does that, is he somewhat clear and given a fresh slate? Beckham - 2b Ramirez - SS Quentin - LF Bonds - DH Konerko - 1b Rios - CF AJ - C Teahen - 3b Pods - RF (OR HOPEFULLY A BIG PICKUP) There is some pop in that lineup, and with a solid bench of Flowers, Kotsay, Jones, Viquel, I like it. Just need a big move for RF and a nice subtle bullpen pickup and I really like this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 (edited) Bonds hasn't played baseball in a year... It might take him a while to get back in the swing of things. Plus, he's 45. If he doesn't perform well to start the year (which I guess he wouldn't), the fans will start to b**** and the media will go crazy. Plus, this puts a lot of national attention (pressure) on the White Sox. Not sure if you really want that. As good as this looks on paper, there are numerous other problems with it that will screw it up. Plus, I'm sure chemistry wouldn't even exist in the clubhouse with Barry the douchebag around and the team not winning. How will Ozzie deal with him? Edited November 26, 2009 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 QUOTE (chw42 @ Nov 26, 2009 -> 11:46 AM) Bonds hasn't played baseball in a year... It might take him a while to get back in the swing of things. Plus, he's 45. If he doesn't perform well to start the year (which I guess he wouldn't), the fans will start to b**** and the media will go crazy. Plus, this puts a lot of national attention (pressure) on the White Sox. Not sure if you really want that. As good as this looks on paper, there are numerous other problems with it that will screw it up. It puts alot of attention on the White Sox. That's a good thing. Honestly though, it won't happen in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Oh Dear God Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I'm game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Nope. Don't want him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Haha, if this happened I´d fully support it. Lets have him lead off, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 If this was last year, I would have said it would be the perfect fit. A year totally off from baseball though, I don't think it would work out. I love Bonds though, and if we're going to support Andruw Jones, I'll have no problem supporting Bonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 His timing - which I believe is even more important than strength - is probably completely gone. And he's 45? I didn't realize he was that old. And what's up with his court case? Is he facing possible jail time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I'd love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Nov 26, 2009 -> 11:47 AM) It puts alot of attention on the White Sox. That's a good thing. Honestly though, it won't happen in the end. hes 45 and off the roids, no way. jersey sales? yea i dont think id be interested or that many people would be in getting his jersey. 0% chance we get him,thank god Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Nov 26, 2009 -> 08:28 PM) hes 45 and off the roids, no way. jersey sales? yea i dont think id be interested or that many people would be in getting his jersey. 0% chance we get him,thank god I think you'd be surprised at how many people like Bonds still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 26, 2009 -> 01:31 PM) I think you'd be surprised at how many people like Bonds still. what is there to like about him? well i know theres quite a few sox people that dont like him (farmer, hawk,dj, kittle, to name a few) Cant imagine much people in the organization that likes him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Nov 26, 2009 -> 08:44 PM) what is there to like about him? well i know theres quite a few sox people that dont like him (farmer, hawk,dj, kittle, to name a few) Cant imagine much people in the organization that likes him I'm pretty sure KW has a great r'ship with him. Farmer hates everyone, so he's probably not a good litmus test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 With one signing the organization would go from one of the cleanest to one of the dirty ones. No thanks. I prefer Thomas' legacy of 'roid free to having the poster boy wearing a Sox uniform. Now, if Ricky thought Ricky could still lead off, let's bring Ricky out of retirement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 QUOTE (Tex @ Nov 26, 2009 -> 01:50 PM) With one signing the organization would go from one of the cleanest to one of the dirty ones. No thanks. I prefer Thomas' legacy of 'roid free to having the poster boy wearing a Sox uniform. Now, if Ricky thought Ricky could still lead off, let's bring Ricky out of retirement Our catcher of the future is a roider, god knows how many others on the current roster and more than a few have gone through our organization in recent years including a couple from the '05 team. I don't think the Sox are all that clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Nov 26, 2009 -> 07:55 PM) Our catcher of the future is a roider, god knows how many others on the current roster and more than a few have gone through our organization in recent years including a couple from the '05 team. I don't think the Sox are all that clean. And yesterday we signed one of the more questionable players when it comes to PEDs use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 You'd have to be pretty nuts to buy his White Sox jersey. With so many players to choose from, to wear that punk's number to me would be really strange. Hopefully KW will pass on Bonds. He's where he belongs, out of the news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Nov 26, 2009 -> 01:55 PM) Our catcher of the future is a roider, god knows how many others on the current roster and more than a few have gone through our organization in recent years including a couple from the '05 team. I don't think the Sox are all that clean. to me its not so much about him being a ped user, its the fact that hes a jerk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Nov 26, 2009 -> 01:55 PM) Our catcher of the future is a roider, god knows how many others on the current roster and more than a few have gone through our organization in recent years including a couple from the '05 team. I don't think the Sox are all that clean. I don't either, but neither do I think they have a terrible reputation or where as guilty as other teams. I believe Bonds would change the reputation for the worst. Which unlike pre-caught Clemens, no teams where really beating down the door to add him for a stretch run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 26, 2009 -> 01:31 PM) I think you'd be surprised at how many people like Bonds still. He's one of my idols. I've never cared about "character." Can you help my team win baseball games? That's all that matters to me. QUOTE (Tex @ Nov 26, 2009 -> 01:50 PM) With one signing the organization would go from one of the cleanest to one of the dirty ones. No thanks. I prefer Thomas' legacy of 'roid free to having the poster boy wearing a Sox uniform. Now, if Ricky thought Ricky could still lead off, let's bring Ricky out of retirement GMAB, Tex. Steroids is so 2004. HUNDREDS of players were doing it. It's time to let go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Nov 26, 2009 -> 01:58 PM) to me its not so much about him being a ped user, its the fact that hes a jerk And? I don't need him to be Mr. Rogers. He's a cocky mofo. Which I love by the way. And he backs the s*** up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 He's one of my idols. I've never cared about "character." Can you help my team win baseball games? That's all that matters to me. At least you admit it. I'm sure there are a lot of fans like you. Most wouldn't admit such a bold statement tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 QUOTE (Tex @ Nov 26, 2009 -> 01:58 PM) I don't either, but neither do I think they have a terrible reputation or where as guilty as other teams. I believe Bonds would change the reputation for the worst. Which unlike pre-caught Clemens, no teams where really beating down the door to add him for a stretch run. Then we shouldn't have signed Andruw Jones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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