Kenny Hates Prospects Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 How about an Andruw Jones-type deal, a $500K base and another $1-1.5M in incentives? When he's healthy he can be very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 I want the crap out of this guy. For a Coop can Fix 'em type deal, he's got insane stuff. I always compared him to Carlos Marmol, unhittable without a lick of control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 10, 2009 -> 01:48 PM) I want the crap out of this guy. For a Coop can Fix 'em type deal, he's got insane stuff. I always compared him to Carlos Marmol, unhittable without a lick of control. LOL. poor wording Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 I'd let Jerry Reinsdorf pay him money to play for our team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 He's really only worth a minor league deal. He's going to be 30 next year, has never had a good season (and I'm not going to say his 105 ERA+ was good last season considering his WHIP was about 1.60), and has never really shown good peripherals. He's like Mike MacDougal, but worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 10, 2009 -> 04:44 PM) He's really only worth a minor league deal. He's going to be 30 next year, has never had a good season (and I'm not going to say his 105 ERA+ was good last season considering his WHIP was about 1.60), and has never really shown good peripherals. He's like Mike MacDougal, but worse. Matt Thornton was a 29 year old with a career 1.68 WHIP in the big leagues at the end of 2005. His minor league walks were equally bad. Doesn't garantee that he's fixable of course. Just sayin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 10, 2009 -> 04:17 PM) Matt Thornton was a 29 year old with a career 1.68 WHIP in the big leagues at the end of 2005. His minor league walks were equally bad. Doesn't garantee that he's fixable of course. Just sayin'. Thornton also was mainly used as a starter in the minors and didn't become a reliever until his first season in the majors. I haven't looked at any of Casilla's PitchFx's, but I would also be surprised if his stuff is as good as Thornton's. I know how good it was when he came up, but I don't know how good Casilla's stuff is now, and he's only had a K/9 of over 8 once in his career (9.2 in 2007), whereas Thornton has never been below 8.2 in his major league career and has been phenomenal the previous two seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 10, 2009 -> 06:30 PM) Thornton also was mainly used as a starter in the minors and didn't become a reliever until his first season in the majors. I haven't looked at any of Casilla's PitchFx's, but I would also be surprised if his stuff is as good as Thornton's. I know how good it was when he came up, but I don't know how good Casilla's stuff is now, and he's only had a K/9 of over 8 once in his career (9.2 in 2007), whereas Thornton has never been below 8.2 in his major league career and has been phenomenal the previous two seasons. 94.5 mph on the fastball, 84.8 on the slider, 86.6 on the change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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