RockRaines Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 QUOTE (BaseballNick @ Dec 11, 2009 -> 02:26 PM) He was doing his job. How does Cowley reporting that the two sides were talking almost ruin the deal? More teams got involved with his agent, there was even a "tryout" scheduled for teams to watch him workout. He was doing his job, but it slowed down KW's progress and may have upped the price a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox2334 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 yes showing off to press is their job and also know fact that those teams interested in putz other than white sox were told by the agent of what the w sox were offering as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 not bad, having 3 arms in the pen who can close out games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Daddy Kool Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 11, 2009 -> 02:27 PM) More teams got involved with his agent, there was even a "tryout" scheduled for teams to watch him workout. He was doing his job, but it slowed down KW's progress and may have upped the price a bit. I don't get it, Cowley gets bashed around here for "not doing his job", but he does "his job" and gets bashed for doing that. You can't have it both ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 QUOTE (spiderman @ Dec 11, 2009 -> 02:14 PM) Do the White Sox now move Jenks? Personally, I wouldn't, but they are about to go to arbitration with him, and Williams may feel that he can save money by moving Jenks while still having 2 guys (Putz and Thornton) who can step in for Jenks...or do the Sox stay with Jenks, and enter the season with what looks to be nice late inning options for Guillen. This is what Putz absolutely can not be counted on to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk23 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Interesting that one of Putz's incentive clauses is "games finished". Looks like the writing in is on the wall for Jenks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEdWalsh Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Sweet. I like this. Glad to have him on board if he can get back to his old form, this is a great move. It's a risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 11, 2009 -> 02:27 PM) More teams got involved with his agent, there was even a "tryout" scheduled for teams to watch him workout. He was doing his job, but it slowed down KW's progress and may have upped the price a bit. Lucky for Joe he doesn't work for the White Sox organization and has no responsibility to help deals go down as smoothly as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaseballNick Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 QUOTE (Big Daddy Kool @ Dec 11, 2009 -> 02:31 PM) I don't get it, Cowley gets bashed around here for "not doing his job", but he does "his job" and gets bashed for doing that. You can't have it both ways. Agreed. Someone mentioned he was "showing off" to the press. Give me a break. There was news, and he reported on that news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox2334 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 joe did his job here as much as i hate the guy he did do the job. the agent also took w sox offer and showed it to other teams interested and if that player really likes it here it holds no barring what happeneds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox2334 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 and congrats joe for signing onto soxtalk and denying. durrr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox2334 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 hes a jackass no doubt bout it. but he got the scoop and story. so for that he does. him being a w sox reporter makes me sick and wishes someone else at suntimes do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 11, 2009 -> 02:31 PM) This is what Putz absolutely can not be counted on to do. I hope you are right, but I'm not convinced that the Sox don't look to cut payroll with Jenks. How do they keep this payroll under $100 million at this point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2009/...co-could-b.html Ken Williams: Jenks still Sox's closer By Mark Gonzales General manager Ken Williams spoke confidently about the depth of the White Sox's bullpen after Friday's acquisition of J.J. Putz. "Obviously, Bobby (Jenks) is the closer," Williams said. "(Matt) Thornton can do a little bit of both, and now you have J.J. who also can do that. And everyone fills in behind them." Putz's one-year, $3 million contract also calls for up to $3 million in incentives based on games finished. Putz is rehabilitating from surgery that removed a bone spur and fragments from his right elbow last June. Williams said the Sox have followed Putz's rehab in Phoenix and that he passed a physical examination this morning. "No restrictions whatsoever," Williams said of Putz's status. Thornton, a former teammate of Putz in Seattle who lives in the same community in Peoria, Ariz., raved about the acquisition and the depth of the Sox's bullpen. "It can be a five-inning game," Thornton said. "With the arms we got now." It also appears more likely that versatile reliever D.J. Carrasco will not be tendered a contract by Saturday at 11 p.m. and become a free agent. The Sox met with Carrasco's agent Wednesday. "You'll just have to wait for those things to come down the pipeline, and everything will reveal itself in time," Williams said. With the bench and bullpen taken care of, Williams said the Sox will shift their main focus on the offense, where a leadoff hitter is needed. Should the Sox find the resources to add a leadoff batter and a left-handed hitter, "we'd be in pretty good shape going into spring training," Williams said. "But I told you guys berfore there's always one more move to make, no matter what it is." Have you ever heard a more ringing endorsement? There's no way he can trade/non-tender him now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 (edited) Solid move and only a matter of time. Putz pretty much takes over Dotel's old role in the pen for now (unlesssomething happens with Jenks). Could be a stud set-up man if healthy as he is just filthy. Edited December 11, 2009 by SoxAce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Matsui and a leadoff hitter is all they really have left. They may add a vet backup catcher, but thats probably all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCangelosi Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Is anyone else worried that we all agree on this signing? Makes me a bit nervous :-P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 QUOTE (Big Daddy Kool @ Dec 11, 2009 -> 12:31 PM) I don't get it, Cowley gets bashed around here for "not doing his job", but he does "his job" and gets bashed for doing that. You can't have it both ways. Cowley did a great job covering the Winter Meetings and he gets paid to uncover stuff about the Sox. HE did exactly that. Well done Joe!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 (edited) Kudos to Joe for getting one right! He is still a jag bag all the same though. Edited December 11, 2009 by EvilJester99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Dec 11, 2009 -> 03:23 PM) Is anyone else worried that we all agree on this signing? Makes me a bit nervous :-P Like Toby Hall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 From a journalistic stand point I have no problem with the way Joe covered that story. I cant say I would be happy as a fan if that rumor actually bumped up the price by a million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 1 year $3 mil for JJ Putz? Ok... whats wrong with him? That's ridiculously cheap, for a guy that not too long ago was pretty good that's about as cheap it comes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 11, 2009 -> 03:24 PM) Cowley did a great job covering the Winter Meetings and he gets paid to uncover stuff about the Sox. HE did exactly that. Well done Joe!! He did his job well, it just made KW's slightly harder. IN the end, Putz wanted to come here, so he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 11, 2009 -> 03:35 PM) He did his job well, it just made KW's slightly harder. IN the end, Putz wanted to come here, so he did. Wouldn't Putz's agent shopping around the White Sox's offer have had the same effect? Because there's no doubt he did just that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattZakrowski Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Add mine to the choir of voices liking this move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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