HuskyCaucasian Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Jon Heyman im being told #halladay will agree on deal with #phillies, which would finalize trade. but not likely to happen today, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk23 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 14, 2009 -> 10:30 PM) So is this actually done? Heyman thinks it's pretty much finalized but won't be done for a few days. Heyman is an idiot but I think he actually broke this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Dec 14, 2009 -> 03:35 PM) Replacing youth with aging... Right. Cliff Lee: Aug 30, 1978 Roy Halladay: May 14, 1977 That one year is going to make a hellofa difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I maybe in the minority, but I would rather lock up Cliff Lee at this point than Halladay. I love Roy but Lee is younger and a lefty. Not too many dominant lefties in the league like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowch Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Any word on who the Blue Jays are getting in return yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk23 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Brian @ Dec 14, 2009 -> 10:43 PM) I maybe in the minority, but I would rather lock up Cliff Lee at this point than Halladay. I love Roy but Lee is younger and a lefty. Not too many dominant lefties in the league like him. Lee appears unwilling to be "locked up". He wants to become a FA and get paid. Edited December 14, 2009 by chunk23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 QUOTE (chunk23 @ Dec 14, 2009 -> 03:47 PM) Lee appears unwilling to be "locked up". He wants to get become a FA and get paid. And he's a whopping 1 year younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattZakrowski Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 14, 2009 -> 04:42 PM) Right. Cliff Lee: Aug 30, 1978 Roy Halladay: May 14, 1977 That one year is going to make a hellofa difference. Halladay has over 800 more MLB innings though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Well the NL is certainly spoken for next year (you could probably say that with Lee as well). Lee has been great the last two years. But Halladay has been great the last eight years. And with Halladay reportedly willing to sign an extension, it's a no-brainer for the Phillies. I am very interested to see what prospects the Phils are trading. And the Mariners are going to be DANGEROUS next year. And lol@the Angels. They can't be too happy right about now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 QUOTE (MattZakrowski @ Dec 14, 2009 -> 03:56 PM) Halladay has over 800 more MLB innings though. I see what you're getting at. But Halladay > Lee. There's just no way around that fact. The Phillies are a better team with Halladay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Wha-Wha-WHAT? Holy crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk23 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 14, 2009 -> 10:57 PM) Well the NL is certainly spoken for next year (you could probably say that with Lee as well). Lee has been great the last two years. But Halladay has been great the last eight years. And with Halladay reportedly willing to sign an extension, it's a no-brainer for the Phillies. I am very interested to see what prospects the Phils are trading. And the Mariners are going to be DANGEROUS next year. And lol@the Angels. They can't be too happy right about now. The Angels are probably looking at a 3rd place finish with how improved the Ms and Rangers are looking. I think the Ms will be a very strong team next year. Mind-blowing defense, strong pitching and a rather balanced offense. They need a power hitter and then they're pretty much a complete team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Lee and Hernandez gives the Mariners like, the hands down best 1-2 punch in the playoffs. I'd still like to think the Sox have the best 1-2-3-4 punch though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 QUOTE (MattZakrowski @ Dec 14, 2009 -> 03:56 PM) Halladay has over 800 more MLB innings though. Did you count the innings when Lee was in the minors in the middle of his career? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 14, 2009 -> 04:15 PM) Did you count the innings when Lee was in the minors in the middle of his career? 850 - 48 = 802 Doesn't make much of a dent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 14, 2009 -> 04:12 PM) Lee and Hernandez gives the Mariners like, the hands down best 1-2 punch in the playoffs. I'd still like to think the Sox have the best 1-2-3-4 punch though... Definitely one of the best along with Boston, now that they have Lackey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk23 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Phillippe Aumont, Michael Taylor named so far. Both are very good prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 QUOTE (chunk23 @ Dec 14, 2009 -> 04:12 PM) The Angels are probably looking at a 3rd place finish with how improved the Ms and Rangers are looking. I think the Ms will be a very strong team next year. Mind-blowing defense, strong pitching and a rather balanced offense. They need a power hitter and then they're pretty much a complete team. besides felix and lee,their rotation isnt that great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 QUOTE (chunk23 @ Dec 14, 2009 -> 04:21 PM) Phillippe Aumont, Michael Taylor named so far. Both are very good prospects. Wow, I figured Brown/Taylor/Drabek were their untouchables. Taylor is a stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk23 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Dec 14, 2009 -> 11:22 PM) besides felix and lee,their rotation isnt that great The thing is, though, that their defense is capable of making any pitcher look good. Look at Washburn last year with the Ms compared to his numbers with the Tigers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Dec 14, 2009 -> 04:22 PM) besides felix and lee,their rotation isnt that great What's the story with Bedard? Do they plan on signing him to a cheap, incentive laiden deal or is he out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I wish we were in on Cliff Lee, he is so f***ing good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonxctf Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Career vs NL East Teams (except Philly) Halladay 8-4 3.31ERA (38ER/103.2IP) Lee 5-1 3.24ERA (18ER/50IP) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 QUOTE (G&T @ Dec 14, 2009 -> 03:56 PM) Rosenthal had this scenario a couple days ago. His "hypothetical" had a 3rd team involved to get Lee. Whoa, your post is gone...but preserved forever. You keep beating me to the delete, dude. This is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Dec 14, 2009 -> 06:24 PM) Career vs NL East Teams (except Philly) Halladay 8-4 3.31ERA (38ER/103.2IP) Lee 5-1 3.24ERA (18ER/50IP) Um, OK? What's this supposed to mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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