southsider2k5 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 QUOTE (watchtower41 @ Dec 15, 2009 -> 03:57 PM) People have always been super quick to dismiss on how big of a dick Joe was before he left. Anyone remember on how we was left off the playoff roster and then didn't even hang around or go to Tampa to watch the series or be a part of the team? How about the numerous requests for surgery, only to be ignored by Joe each and every time with the great advice he continued to trust Boras with. Crede signed with the Twins on purpose. There were other teams that were interested, but it didn't take long for Joe to decide that he would be most happy to sleep with the enemy. I'm quite sure he was happier than a pig eating s*** when he went deep in his first AB back at the Cell. Thanks for the memories, but screw you Joe Crede. You lost me at Joe Crede being a dick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 16, 2009 -> 10:19 AM) You lost me at Joe Crede being a dick. Absolutely. How jaded can some fans can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 QUOTE (watchtower41 @ Dec 15, 2009 -> 03:57 PM) People have always been super quick to dismiss on how big of a dick Joe was before he left. Anyone remember on how we was left off the playoff roster and then didn't even hang around or go to Tampa to watch the series or be a part of the team? How about the numerous requests for surgery, only to be ignored by Joe each and every time with the great advice he continued to trust Boras with. Crede signed with the Twins on purpose. There were other teams that were interested, but it didn't take long for Joe to decide that he would be most happy to sleep with the enemy. I'm quite sure he was happier than a pig eating s*** when he went deep in his first AB back at the Cell. Thanks for the memories, but screw you Joe Crede. I don't understand this level of anger,it's a short career and the man needs to cash in on it as best he can,I hate the Twins but I can't say I hate Crede. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Count me as a Crede fan. Compare how the team parted ways with Thomas and how Crede left. It is a two way street and both teams and players treat it the same way. Besides, we had the next HoF third baseman Fields ready to play! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernuke Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 I love how when you get to #1 the first thing you see in the picture is WISE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 QUOTE (watchtower41 @ Dec 15, 2009 -> 04:57 PM) People have always been super quick to dismiss on how big of a dick Joe was before he left. Anyone remember on how we was left off the playoff roster and then didn't even hang around or go to Tampa to watch the series or be a part of the team? How about the numerous requests for surgery, only to be ignored by Joe each and every time with the great advice he continued to trust Boras with. Crede signed with the Twins on purpose. There were other teams that were interested, but it didn't take long for Joe to decide that he would be most happy to sleep with the enemy. I'm quite sure he was happier than a pig eating s*** when he went deep in his first AB back at the Cell. Thanks for the memories, but screw you Joe Crede. You make it sound like Crede did all of that on purpose and the whole issue with the surgery was a cut-and-dry thing and Crede didn't care about his own health and career or something. I'm not mad at him for going to the Twins, not too many teams were jumping up and down at the idea of signing a broken-down Scott Boras client with an injury that nobody knew the extent that remained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchtower41 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Bouquets of roses for an under-achieving .230 hitter for us, yet I am the one who is jaded. Don't get me wrong, I included Joe on this list, I recognize him as one of the greatest 3B defenders for a good stretch in the mid-90's. The Sox kept sticking with him, strikeout after strikeout. I can accept the lovefest in Soxdom for Rowand and now Crede will never go away, but I actually missed Rowand. So I assume that all of you think it was right to ditch his teammates in the playoffs? Didn't hear any peeps about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Crede's time in Chicago was absolutely done in 2008 and it may have been a bit past due. It doesn't change the fact that his contributions will go down as monumental in the history of the franchise, and he is always going to have a free beer waiting for him anywhere he goes in Chicago. If there is someone who was a dick to the franchise during his final year and the subsequent departure and then signing with a rival team, it was Maggs. There were reports that the Sox had offered him a 4-year, $60 mill deal in the spring of '04, only to have that turned down. He then fired his agent, signed with Boras (who had an even worse relationship with the team at that point), went overseas to have a knee surgery, and then came back and signed a deal with Detroit for only one more guaranteed year (though 2 option years). That's more of a dick move than anything Crede ever did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 QUOTE (watchtower41 @ Dec 17, 2009 -> 02:30 PM) Bouquets of roses for an under-achieving .230 hitter for us, yet I am the one who is jaded. Don't get me wrong, I included Joe on this list, I recognize him as one of the greatest 3B defenders for a good stretch in the mid-90's. The Sox kept sticking with him, strikeout after strikeout. I can accept the lovefest in Soxdom for Rowand and now Crede will never go away, but I actually missed Rowand. So I assume that all of you think it was right to ditch his teammates in the playoffs? Didn't hear any peeps about that. You are about 25 points too low there, not to mention that Joe didn't play an inning of major league baseball in the 90's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 17, 2009 -> 02:37 PM) Crede's time in Chicago was absolutely done in 2008 and it may have been a bit past due. It doesn't change the fact that his contributions will go down as monumental in the history of the franchise, and he is always going to have a free beer waiting for him anywhere he goes in Chicago. If there is someone who was a dick to the franchise during his final year and the subsequent departure and then signing with a rival team, it was Maggs. There were reports that the Sox had offered him a 4-year, $60 mill deal in the spring of '04, only to have that turned down. He then fired his agent, signed with Boras (who had an even worse relationship with the team at that point), went overseas to have a knee surgery, and then came back and signed a deal with Detroit for only one more guaranteed year (though 2 option years). That's more of a dick move than anything Crede ever did. Not to mention he lied to the organization about the surgery and pissed on the organization after all of that crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 QUOTE (watchtower41 @ Dec 17, 2009 -> 03:30 PM) Bouquets of roses for an under-achieving .230 hitter for us, yet I am the one who is jaded. Don't get me wrong, I included Joe on this list, I recognize him as one of the greatest 3B defenders for a good stretch in the mid-90's. The Sox kept sticking with him, strikeout after strikeout. I can accept the lovefest in Soxdom for Rowand and now Crede will never go away, but I actually missed Rowand. So I assume that all of you think it was right to ditch his teammates in the playoffs? Didn't hear any peeps about that. i liked crede as a person....but i agree with you in some regards...by far the most overrated player of the decade IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 QUOTE (daa84 @ Dec 17, 2009 -> 12:40 PM) i liked crede as a person....but i agree with you in some regards...by far the most overrated player of the decade IMO In some ways, but he was clearly an impact player and his contributions in late 2005 are legendary. Speaking of overrated, I don't understand why Garland was on this list. He was a decent pitcher and all, but only had one really good year. I'd put Freddy on that list before him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchtower41 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 (edited) Still nobody that can vouch or salute him for leaving the team during the 08 ALDS? Long Live Crede! I love people trying to spin Joe as a better person/player by comparing him to Magglio. One of the most feared hitters in the first half of the decade and our last real MVP candidate. What a joke. Edited December 17, 2009 by watchtower41 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchtower41 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 QUOTE (WCSox @ Dec 17, 2009 -> 03:43 PM) Speaking of overrated, I don't understand why Garland was on this list. He was a decent pitcher and all, but only had one really good year. I'd put Freddy on that list before him. Garland= #2 in White Sox wins over the decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 QUOTE (watchtower41 @ Dec 17, 2009 -> 02:25 PM) Garland= #2 in White Sox wins over the decade. That has to do more with the length of his tenure in Chicago than his performance. Outside of 2005, Garland has been a very average pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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