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2000s - Three playoff appearances and 1 World Series title. 857 Wins 764 Losses .529 %

 

'90s - One (Two) playoff appearance(s). 845 Wins 775 Losses .528 %

 

'80s - One playoff appearance. 786 Wins 834 Losses .485 %

 

'70s - No playoff appearances. 752 Wins 868 Losses .464 %

 

'60s - No playoff appearances. 852 Wins 760 Losses .529 %

 

'50s - One playoff appearance. 847 Wins 693 Losses .550 %

 

'40s - No playoff appearances. 707 Wins 833 Losses .459 %

 

'30s - No playoff appearances. 678 Wins 841 Losses .446 %

 

'20s - No playoff appearances. 731 Wins 804 Losses .476 %

 

'10s - Two playoff appearances, and 1 World Series title. 798 Wins 692 Losses .536 %

 

1900s - One playoff appearance, 2 AL Championships, and 1 World Series title. 744 Wins 575 Losses .564 %

 

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Most wins of any decade, tied for 4th in Winning %, Most postseason appearances of any decade.

 

I guess you could say that we're spoiled as the history of Sox fandom goes.

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QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 12:01 AM)
2000s - Three playoff appearances and 1 World Series title. 857 Wins 764 Losses .529 %

 

'90s - One (Two) playoff appearance(s). 845 Wins 775 Losses .528 %

 

'80s - One playoff appearance. 786 Wins 834 Losses .485 %

 

'70s - No playoff appearances. 752 Wins 868 Losses .464 %

 

'60s - No playoff appearances. 852 Wins 760 Losses .529 %

 

'50s - One playoff appearance. 847 Wins 693 Losses .550 %

 

'40s - No playoff appearances. 707 Wins 833 Losses .459 %

 

'30s - No playoff appearances. 678 Wins 841 Losses .446 %

 

'20s - No playoff appearances. 731 Wins 804 Losses .476 %

 

'10s - Two playoff appearances, and 1 World Series title. 798 Wins 692 Losses .536 %

 

1900s - One playoff appearance, 2 AL Championships, and 1 World Series title. 744 Wins 575 Losses .564 %

 

. . .

 

 

Most wins of any decade, tied for 4th in Winning %, Most postseason appearances of any decade.

 

I guess you could say that we're spoiled as the history of Sox fandom goes.

 

 

...this is just the sad reminder that we've sucked throughout history.

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QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 12:02 AM)
...this is just the sad reminder that we've sucked throughout history.

 

I remember the first game I went to in 2006, looking at the new awesome World Series banner. Then looking over at the AL champions banner and realizing, wow, not did only did we not win a World Series for 88 years, but over like an 85 year period, we only made the World Series once!

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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 07:50 AM)
I remember the first game I went to in 2006, looking at the new awesome World Series banner. Then looking over at the AL champions banner and realizing, wow, not did only did we not win a World Series for 88 years, but over like an 85 year period, we only made the World Series once!

That is why the 2005 World Championship season was so special!

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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 08:18 AM)
The 2000-2009 decade for the Sox has been without a doubt, the strongest decade of baseball for either team in Chicago since at least the 'teens. 3 divisions, 1 WS, and only 2 teams with less than 80 wins.

 

For someone who remembers the late 70's until today, this has been by far the best decade of baseball I have gotten to enjoy.

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QUOTE (daa84 @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 10:43 AM)
comparing playoffs from one decade to the next isn't fair, given that before 1995 only 2 teams from each league made the playoffs instead of 4

Yes, but they were still valid appearances.

 

Plus, only in 2008 did the Sox not have a top 2 AL record.

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QUOTE (daa84 @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 10:43 AM)
comparing playoffs from one decade to the next isn't fair, given that before 1995 only 2 teams from each league made the playoffs instead of 4

Well true, but back in the day the leagues were much smaller too.

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While not as good as the last 10, The 1990s were not bad, considering the lost season 1994. I believe the Sox had a VERY legitimate chance of winning it all that year. I know there were some excellent teams then (if I recall... Cleveland, NYY, Atlanta, and Montreal were really good) and the Sox may not have even been in first at the time (close to Cleveland), but the team was good, young and starting to show a lot of momentum until the season got canned.

 

If the Sox had won it all (woulda been tough), then who knows.

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QUOTE (daa84 @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 03:43 PM)
comparing playoffs from one decade to the next isn't fair, given that before 1995 only 2 teams from each league made the playoffs instead of 4
It sure isn't. Before 1969 only 1 team from each league made it. 1951-67 was the longest period of sustained excellence in White Sox history. 17 straight winning seasons, 7 with 90+ wins, including 4 in a 154 game season. Unfortunately, for 14 of those years the Yankees were a powerhouse.

 

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Ownership did pretty good in the 00's too. Especially if you factor in the amount of money you spend at a game compared to years past.

 

Decade Attendance

2000's 22,030,397

1990's 19,777,111

1980's 14,448,273

1970's 11,053,371

1960's 10,830,432

1950's 11,296,258

1940's 7,068,975

1930's 4,109,937

1920's 6,238,378

1910's 5,577,496

1900's 4,588,978

 

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QUOTE (TLAK @ Dec 26, 2009 -> 12:45 PM)
Ownership did pretty good in the 00's too. Especially if you factor in the amount of money you spend at a game compared to years past.

 

Decade Attendance

2000's 22,030,397

1990's 19,777,111

1980's 14,448,273

1970's 11,053,371

1960's 10,830,432

1950's 11,296,258

1940's 7,068,975

1930's 4,109,937

1920's 6,238,378

1910's 5,577,496

1900's 4,588,978

 

Only if you don't subtract the corresponding jump in payroll. For perspectives sake, it was $24.5 mil in '99 and $35.1 mil in '98. Our payroll paid out for 2009 was $105 million.

 

 

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QUOTE (TLAK @ Dec 26, 2009 -> 01:45 PM)
Ownership did pretty good in the 00's too. Especially if you factor in the amount of money you spend at a game compared to years past.

 

Decade Attendance

2000's 22,030,397

1990's 19,777,111

1980's 14,448,273

1970's 11,053,371

1960's 10,830,432

1950's 11,296,258

1940's 7,068,975

1930's 4,109,937

1920's 6,238,378

1910's 5,577,496

1900's 4,588,978

 

On average from 1985-today, about 35% of the city are Sox fans. 50% Cubs, 15% other teams or not baseball fans.

 

Pre-1985 It was about 45%, 45%, 10%.

 

City population

 

2000 2,896,016 - 1,013,606 Sox fans

1990 2,783,726 - 974,304 Sox fans

1980 3,005,072 - 1,202,029 Sox fans

1970 3,366,957 - 1,515,131 Sox fans

1960 3,550,404 - 1,597,682 Sox fans

1950 3,620,962 - 1,629,433 Sox fans

1940 3,396,808 - 1,528,564 Sox fans

1930 3,376,438 - 1,519,397 Sox fans

1920 2,701,705 - 1,215,767 Sox fans

1910 2,185,283 - 983,377 Sox fans

1900 1,698,575 - 764,359 Sox fans

 

With the era of job losses and post-industrial era of the mid-1970s, on average, 20% of Sox fans moved out of the area to other parts of the country.

 

So, you can add that 20% plus an additional 20% for families and two more generations - starting about 1975.

 

This also does not count for the fans who are in the "Chicagoland" area, but not in the city. At least another 110% since 1950 should be added to the total. - 20% 1920-1950 due to radio.

 

Finally, you should add 20% for WGN America fans after 1990- today and 10% for the internet/mlb.tv/Frank Thomas effect.

 

2000 1,013,606 city fans - 405,442 Fans who moved - 1,114,967 suburban fans - 202,721 WGN - 101,361 'net = 2,838,097 fans est.

1990 974,304 city fans - 389,722 Fans who moved - 1,071,734 suburban fans - 194,861 WGN = 2,630,621 fans est.

1980 1,202,029 city fans - 420,710 Fans who moved - 1,322,232 suburban fans = 2,944,971 fans est.

1970 1,515,131 city fans - 303,026 Fans who moved - 1,666,644 suburban fans = 3,484,801 fans est.

1960 1,597,682 city fans - 1,757,450 suburban fans = 3,355,132 fans est.

1950 1,629,433 city fans - 1,792,376 suburban fans = 3,421,809 fans est.

1940 1,528,564 city fans - 505,712 suburban/area fans = 2,034,276 fans est.

1930 1,519,397 city fans - 503,879 suburban/area fans = 2,023,276 fans est.

1920 1,215,767 city fans - 443,153 suburban/area fans = 1,658,920 fans est.

1910 983,377 city fans est.

1900 764,359 city fans est.

 

 

Decade Attendance

2000's 22,030,397 - 2,203,049 per year - 0.78 tickets sold per fan

1990's 19,777,111 - 1,977,711 per year - 0.75 tickets sold per fan

1980's 14,448,273 - 1,444,827 per year - 0.49 tickets sold per fan

1970's 11,053,371 - 1,105,337 per year - 0.32 tickets sold per fan

1960's 10,830,432 - 1,083,043 per year - 0.32 tickets sold per fan

1950's 11,296,258 - 1,129,626 per year - 0.33 tickets sold per fan

1940's 7,068,975 - 706,898 per year - 0.35 tickets sold per fan

1930's 4,109,937 - 410,994 per year - 0.20 tickets sold per fan

1920's 6,238,378 - 623,838 per year - 0.38 tickets sold per fan

1910's 5,577,496 - 557,750 per year - 0.57 tickets sold per fan

1900's 4,588,978 - 458,898 per year - 0.60 tickets sold per fan

 

Pretty crazy that the Sox, with a more limited fan base than any other mlb team, are about 78% per one ticket sold per fan.

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