knightni Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 2000s - Three playoff appearances and 1 World Series title. 857 Wins 764 Losses .529 % '90s - One (Two) playoff appearance(s). 845 Wins 775 Losses .528 % '80s - One playoff appearance. 786 Wins 834 Losses .485 % '70s - No playoff appearances. 752 Wins 868 Losses .464 % '60s - No playoff appearances. 852 Wins 760 Losses .529 % '50s - One playoff appearance. 847 Wins 693 Losses .550 % '40s - No playoff appearances. 707 Wins 833 Losses .459 % '30s - No playoff appearances. 678 Wins 841 Losses .446 % '20s - No playoff appearances. 731 Wins 804 Losses .476 % '10s - Two playoff appearances, and 1 World Series title. 798 Wins 692 Losses .536 % 1900s - One playoff appearance, 2 AL Championships, and 1 World Series title. 744 Wins 575 Losses .564 % . . . Most wins of any decade, tied for 4th in Winning %, Most postseason appearances of any decade. I guess you could say that we're spoiled as the history of Sox fandom goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 12:01 AM) 2000s - Three playoff appearances and 1 World Series title. 857 Wins 764 Losses .529 % '90s - One (Two) playoff appearance(s). 845 Wins 775 Losses .528 % '80s - One playoff appearance. 786 Wins 834 Losses .485 % '70s - No playoff appearances. 752 Wins 868 Losses .464 % '60s - No playoff appearances. 852 Wins 760 Losses .529 % '50s - One playoff appearance. 847 Wins 693 Losses .550 % '40s - No playoff appearances. 707 Wins 833 Losses .459 % '30s - No playoff appearances. 678 Wins 841 Losses .446 % '20s - No playoff appearances. 731 Wins 804 Losses .476 % '10s - Two playoff appearances, and 1 World Series title. 798 Wins 692 Losses .536 % 1900s - One playoff appearance, 2 AL Championships, and 1 World Series title. 744 Wins 575 Losses .564 % . . . Most wins of any decade, tied for 4th in Winning %, Most postseason appearances of any decade. I guess you could say that we're spoiled as the history of Sox fandom goes. ...this is just the sad reminder that we've sucked throughout history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 12:02 AM) ...this is just the sad reminder that we've sucked throughout history. I remember the first game I went to in 2006, looking at the new awesome World Series banner. Then looking over at the AL champions banner and realizing, wow, not did only did we not win a World Series for 88 years, but over like an 85 year period, we only made the World Series once! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 07:50 AM) I remember the first game I went to in 2006, looking at the new awesome World Series banner. Then looking over at the AL champions banner and realizing, wow, not did only did we not win a World Series for 88 years, but over like an 85 year period, we only made the World Series once! That is why the 2005 World Championship season was so special! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 The 2000-2009 decade for the Sox has been without a doubt, the strongest decade of baseball for either team in Chicago since at least the 'teens. 3 divisions, 1 WS, and only 2 teams with less than 80 wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 08:18 AM) The 2000-2009 decade for the Sox has been without a doubt, the strongest decade of baseball for either team in Chicago since at least the 'teens. 3 divisions, 1 WS, and only 2 teams with less than 80 wins. For someone who remembers the late 70's until today, this has been by far the best decade of baseball I have gotten to enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share Posted December 22, 2009 From 1990 to today has been pretty great compared to many years previous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 comparing playoffs from one decade to the next isn't fair, given that before 1995 only 2 teams from each league made the playoffs instead of 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 23, 2009 Author Share Posted December 23, 2009 QUOTE (daa84 @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 10:43 AM) comparing playoffs from one decade to the next isn't fair, given that before 1995 only 2 teams from each league made the playoffs instead of 4 Yes, but they were still valid appearances. Plus, only in 2008 did the Sox not have a top 2 AL record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 08:17 AM) That is why the 2005 World Championship season was so special! But would sweeping the Cubs in a World Series top it? This is the question that has haunted me since day 1 after Game 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 QUOTE (daa84 @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 10:43 AM) comparing playoffs from one decade to the next isn't fair, given that before 1995 only 2 teams from each league made the playoffs instead of 4 Well true, but back in the day the leagues were much smaller too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 (edited) While not as good as the last 10, The 1990s were not bad, considering the lost season 1994. I believe the Sox had a VERY legitimate chance of winning it all that year. I know there were some excellent teams then (if I recall... Cleveland, NYY, Atlanta, and Montreal were really good) and the Sox may not have even been in first at the time (close to Cleveland), but the team was good, young and starting to show a lot of momentum until the season got canned. If the Sox had won it all (woulda been tough), then who knows. Edited December 24, 2009 by kwolf68 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI1020 Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 QUOTE (daa84 @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 03:43 PM) comparing playoffs from one decade to the next isn't fair, given that before 1995 only 2 teams from each league made the playoffs instead of 4 It sure isn't. Before 1969 only 1 team from each league made it. 1951-67 was the longest period of sustained excellence in White Sox history. 17 straight winning seasons, 7 with 90+ wins, including 4 in a 154 game season. Unfortunately, for 14 of those years the Yankees were a powerhouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLAK Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 Ownership did pretty good in the 00's too. Especially if you factor in the amount of money you spend at a game compared to years past. Decade Attendance 2000's 22,030,397 1990's 19,777,111 1980's 14,448,273 1970's 11,053,371 1960's 10,830,432 1950's 11,296,258 1940's 7,068,975 1930's 4,109,937 1920's 6,238,378 1910's 5,577,496 1900's 4,588,978 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 QUOTE (TLAK @ Dec 26, 2009 -> 12:45 PM) Ownership did pretty good in the 00's too. Especially if you factor in the amount of money you spend at a game compared to years past. Decade Attendance 2000's 22,030,397 1990's 19,777,111 1980's 14,448,273 1970's 11,053,371 1960's 10,830,432 1950's 11,296,258 1940's 7,068,975 1930's 4,109,937 1920's 6,238,378 1910's 5,577,496 1900's 4,588,978 Only if you don't subtract the corresponding jump in payroll. For perspectives sake, it was $24.5 mil in '99 and $35.1 mil in '98. Our payroll paid out for 2009 was $105 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 26, 2009 Author Share Posted December 26, 2009 QUOTE (TLAK @ Dec 26, 2009 -> 01:45 PM) Ownership did pretty good in the 00's too. Especially if you factor in the amount of money you spend at a game compared to years past. Decade Attendance 2000's 22,030,397 1990's 19,777,111 1980's 14,448,273 1970's 11,053,371 1960's 10,830,432 1950's 11,296,258 1940's 7,068,975 1930's 4,109,937 1920's 6,238,378 1910's 5,577,496 1900's 4,588,978 On average from 1985-today, about 35% of the city are Sox fans. 50% Cubs, 15% other teams or not baseball fans. Pre-1985 It was about 45%, 45%, 10%. City population 2000 2,896,016 - 1,013,606 Sox fans 1990 2,783,726 - 974,304 Sox fans 1980 3,005,072 - 1,202,029 Sox fans 1970 3,366,957 - 1,515,131 Sox fans 1960 3,550,404 - 1,597,682 Sox fans 1950 3,620,962 - 1,629,433 Sox fans 1940 3,396,808 - 1,528,564 Sox fans 1930 3,376,438 - 1,519,397 Sox fans 1920 2,701,705 - 1,215,767 Sox fans 1910 2,185,283 - 983,377 Sox fans 1900 1,698,575 - 764,359 Sox fans With the era of job losses and post-industrial era of the mid-1970s, on average, 20% of Sox fans moved out of the area to other parts of the country. So, you can add that 20% plus an additional 20% for families and two more generations - starting about 1975. This also does not count for the fans who are in the "Chicagoland" area, but not in the city. At least another 110% since 1950 should be added to the total. - 20% 1920-1950 due to radio. Finally, you should add 20% for WGN America fans after 1990- today and 10% for the internet/mlb.tv/Frank Thomas effect. 2000 1,013,606 city fans - 405,442 Fans who moved - 1,114,967 suburban fans - 202,721 WGN - 101,361 'net = 2,838,097 fans est. 1990 974,304 city fans - 389,722 Fans who moved - 1,071,734 suburban fans - 194,861 WGN = 2,630,621 fans est. 1980 1,202,029 city fans - 420,710 Fans who moved - 1,322,232 suburban fans = 2,944,971 fans est. 1970 1,515,131 city fans - 303,026 Fans who moved - 1,666,644 suburban fans = 3,484,801 fans est. 1960 1,597,682 city fans - 1,757,450 suburban fans = 3,355,132 fans est. 1950 1,629,433 city fans - 1,792,376 suburban fans = 3,421,809 fans est. 1940 1,528,564 city fans - 505,712 suburban/area fans = 2,034,276 fans est. 1930 1,519,397 city fans - 503,879 suburban/area fans = 2,023,276 fans est. 1920 1,215,767 city fans - 443,153 suburban/area fans = 1,658,920 fans est. 1910 983,377 city fans est. 1900 764,359 city fans est. Decade Attendance 2000's 22,030,397 - 2,203,049 per year - 0.78 tickets sold per fan 1990's 19,777,111 - 1,977,711 per year - 0.75 tickets sold per fan 1980's 14,448,273 - 1,444,827 per year - 0.49 tickets sold per fan 1970's 11,053,371 - 1,105,337 per year - 0.32 tickets sold per fan 1960's 10,830,432 - 1,083,043 per year - 0.32 tickets sold per fan 1950's 11,296,258 - 1,129,626 per year - 0.33 tickets sold per fan 1940's 7,068,975 - 706,898 per year - 0.35 tickets sold per fan 1930's 4,109,937 - 410,994 per year - 0.20 tickets sold per fan 1920's 6,238,378 - 623,838 per year - 0.38 tickets sold per fan 1910's 5,577,496 - 557,750 per year - 0.57 tickets sold per fan 1900's 4,588,978 - 458,898 per year - 0.60 tickets sold per fan Pretty crazy that the Sox, with a more limited fan base than any other mlb team, are about 78% per one ticket sold per fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 26, 2009 -> 04:10 PM) Pretty crazy that the Sox, with a more limited fan base than any other mlb team, are at over one ticket sold per fan. This is awesome stuff, knight. Well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 26, 2009 Author Share Posted December 26, 2009 QUOTE (The Baconator @ Dec 26, 2009 -> 03:30 PM) This is awesome stuff, knight. Well done. I edited my totals. Pretty astounding since the '80s, but not as overwhelming as originally thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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