chisoxfan09 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 (edited) Here are his career stats. I know he will be out of KW´s price range but maybe a 2 year 16-18 million contract? He has also been solid defensively. Hitting Stats: Next Stats >> SEASON TEAM G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG 2004 Atlanta Braves 110 324 45 90 27 1 13 45 158 27 78 0 0 .333 .488 .278 2005 Atlanta Braves 141 451 53 117 28 0 20 78 205 39 87 0 2 .320 .455 .259 2006 Atlanta Braves 149 492 89 140 38 1 32 90 276 55 128 0 2 .354 .561 .285 2007 Pittsburgh Pirates 152 563 71 153 42 0 21 88 258 62 131 1 1 .345 .458 .272 2008 Pittsburgh Pirates 136 492 66 133 32 3 25 85 246 54 122 1 1 .341 .500 .270 2009 Atlanta Braves 57 212 30 69 11 1 12 40 118 28 59 0 0 .401 .557 .325 2009 Boston Red Sox 6 19 2 5 2 0 1 3 10 0 2 0 0 .263 .526 .263 2009 Pittsburgh Pirates 87 324 46 80 25 1 12 40 143 41 81 2 2 .329 .441 .247 Career Totals 838 2877 402 787 205 7 136 469 1414 306 688 4 8 .343 .491 .274 Fielding Stats: SEASON TEAM POS G GS INN TC PO A E DP PB SB CS RF FPCT 2004 Atlanta Braves 1B 98 82 720.0 786 740 41 5 87 9.76 .994 2005 Atlanta Braves 1B 125 117 1019.1 1154 1070 77 7 105 10.13 .994 2006 Atlanta Braves 1B 142 130 1154.1 1219 1117 97 5 109 9.47 .996 2007 Pittsburgh Pirates 1B 151 148 1301.1 1383 1296 81 6 154 9.52 .996 2008 Pittsburgh Pirates 1B 129 128 1135.2 1219 1130 81 8 121 9.60 .993 2009 Atlanta Braves 1B 57 57 515.2 564 520 43 1 61 9.83 .998 2009 Boston Red Sox 1B 4 4 36.0 35 29 6 0 1 8.75 1.000 2009 Pittsburgh Pirates 1B 87 86 756.2 836 776 59 1 86 9.93 .999 Career Totals 793 752 6639.0 7196 6678 485 33 724 9.71 .995 We would have to move PK to DH or platoon Laroche at first and DH. What thinks ye oh White Sox pundits? Am I drinkin koolaid? Edited December 22, 2009 by chisoxfan09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 He wants a lot of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 It doesn't help us to sign a person to play 1b for this year. It'll be cheaper to sign a DH than a 1b, because of the flexibility. As long as Konerko can play 1b this year, signing a guy who should be a full time 1b is an inefficient use of resources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share Posted December 22, 2009 What if by chance KW moves PK in a surprising trade? Stranger things have happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 QUOTE (chisoxfan09 @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 02:57 PM) What if by chance KW moves PK in a surprising trade? Stranger things have happened. If he was going to do that then Laroche would make sense, but I really think that would have been done already. No one's going to want to pick up his contract, and KW isn't going to want to pay $6 million to get someone else to take Konerko in exchange for an average prospect or two and then simultaneously spend $8 million on Laroche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattchoo Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 02:01 PM) If he was going to do that then Laroche would make sense, but I really think that would have been done already. No one's going to want to pick up his contract, and KW isn't going to want to pay $6 million to get someone else to take Konerko in exchange for an average prospect or two and then simultaneously spend $8 million on Laroche. What's wrong with Konerko's contract? Isn't it only one year left at 14M? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 QUOTE (Mattchoo @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 03:10 PM) What's wrong with Konerko's contract? Isn't it only one year left at 14M? 1 year at $12 million. The problem is...no one out there would pay more than about $6 million for him this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmbjeff Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 I really think Aubrey Huff is the best fit for our ballclub based on what Ozzie is trying to do and what Kenny wants in a DH. Kenny wants a power bat, preferrably left-handed to break up the slew of RH we have and he is an ideal Ozzie type guy with his ability to DH and also by his ability to play the field. Granted, he is certainly not the best fielder, but he can spell PK at 1B, Teahan at 3B or either corner OF spot in a pinch. I also think financially, he will be affordable after a down 2009 season. He had a great 2008 season, and a bounceback to an .800-.850 OPS seems reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 10:51 AM) It doesn't help us to sign a person to play 1b for this year. It'll be cheaper to sign a DH than a 1b, because of the flexibility. As long as Konerko can play 1b this year, signing a guy who should be a full time 1b is an inefficient use of resources. If Kenny is planning on letting PK walk as a free agent next winter and the DH spot is open, signing LaRoche to a multi-year deal and moving PK to DH would make sense. That said, as has already been mentioned, LaRoche is going to want more money than the budget will likely allow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 QUOTE (WCSox @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 03:38 PM) If Kenny is planning on letting PK walk as a free agent next winter and the DH spot is open, signing LaRoche to a multi-year deal and moving PK to DH would make sense. That said, as has already been mentioned, LaRoche is going to want more money than the budget will likely allow. I think it's actually entirely possible they might retain PK at the end of the season for another year or two, but there's little reason to rush it right now. There's more than a few other guys who might be options at that point as well, and it's also possible that Viciedo could get penciled in there at some point if his bat comes around more this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 12:41 PM) I think it's actually entirely possible they might retain PK at the end of the season for another year or two If PK doesn't want to test the FA market (like he did after 2005), a two-year extension with a mutual option for a 3rd (similar to what JD got in '07) might be possible. It's difficult to gauge what will happen there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 QUOTE (WCSox @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 03:15 PM) If PK doesn't want to test the FA market (like he did after 2005), a two-year extension with a mutual option for a 3rd (similar to what JD got in '07) might be possible. It's difficult to gauge what will happen there. I could see that happening. If PK shows he can still play subpar defense and hit for average this year, hell why not sign him to an extension? The Sox really don't have a guy ready to come to play 1b from the minors. Unless they feel Viciedo is ready after another full season down in the minors. . Only time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 QUOTE (dmbjeff @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 08:32 PM) I really think Aubrey Huff is the best fit for our ballclub based on what Ozzie is trying to do and what Kenny wants in a DH. Kenny wants a power bat, preferrably left-handed to break up the slew of RH we have and he is an ideal Ozzie type guy with his ability to DH and also by his ability to play the field. Granted, he is certainly not the best fielder, but he can spell PK at 1B, Teahan at 3B or either corner OF spot in a pinch. I also think financially, he will be affordable after a down 2009 season. He had a great 2008 season, and a bounceback to an .800-.850 OPS seems reasonable. I think the sox will get a bargain in a DH/ position player--Huff wouldn't be bad. When guys are still looking for jobs in Jan., the sox will be able to pick someone up for cheap. BTW, I found this on Fangraphs that in Huff's 2008 season, he increased his FB rate to a career high 41%. He could send a lot of those FB's into the RF seats at the Cell. And he does hit RHP well-something PK doesn't do. http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/index.php...rey-huff-and-fb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 How many lefty hitters are we going to sign? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthsideDon48 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 I'll be honest, I always thought LaRoche was a little overrated. I don't really see anything special about him, and I don't really see him as a power-hitter. I actually prefer having Thome back instead of LaRoche, and I'm really against having Thome back. And like others have mentioned, I also prefer having Aubrey Huff as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 I still think KW takes a shot at Carlos Delgado before making any type of move like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 With all these names being thrown around (LaRoche, Thome, Huff, Delgado, et al.) how can people be panicking? We'll end up with a bargain-basement DH but with legitimate power. I said it in the Delgado thread, but I think it merits repeating: anyone remember Carl Everett? Same thing. Not perfection, but I didn't cry myself to sleep at night either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 04:50 PM) How many lefty hitters are we going to sign? As many as it takes to keep Joe Crede away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 QUOTE (ScottyDo @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 09:03 PM) With all these names being thrown around (LaRoche, Thome, Huff, Delgado, et al.) how can people be panicking? We'll end up with a bargain-basement DH but with legitimate power. I said it in the Delgado thread, but I think it merits repeating: anyone remember Carl Everett? Same thing. Not perfection, but I didn't cry myself to sleep at night either. It will be Winn or Hinske, just because KW wants to drive us crazy putting together a team with Vizquel, Winn and Pierre at USCF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Laroche has some of the most ridiculous 1st half/2nd half splits I've ever seen. I wouldn't touch him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon_44 Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 how could he get a contract of 2 year 16-18 mill? I wouldn't give him a 2 year 10 mill contract. He seems to be way overrated. He's a .270 hitter with limited power. If he gets that kind of contract there is a GM out there who needs to be canned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 23, 2009 -> 12:37 PM) It will be Winn or Hinske, just because KW wants to drive us crazy putting together a team with Vizquel, Winn and Pierre at USCF. The Sox and the Giants sure like each other's "talent", don't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 Thome, Huff, or Delgado are superior hitters who will cost less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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