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QUOTE (Y2HH @ May 25, 2012 -> 09:11 AM)
You're always one step behind...probably because you're 7 foot 100 inches and as slow as Konerko. ;)

No, I was multitasking and sharing more of my personal info with random social networking sites as I was typing up my response.

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 25, 2012 -> 11:12 AM)
Never respond to a Y2HH post within the first five minutes. Odds are he's going to edit it.

 

This is true.

 

I have a lot going on. I often hurry my replies, move to something else while at work, then move back to refine my point. :) I also type like 100WPM, but think at about 1000WPM, so I have to go back and edit as I can't keep up with my thoughts. :D

 

Edit: For the sake of editing. :D

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Ouch!

 

It's too bad that no one uses it. It's actually a s***load better than facebook.

 

EDIT: But it's almost the opposite of facebook since it's more private. It basically has you limit connections to people.

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QUOTE (Y2HH @ May 25, 2012 -> 11:08 AM)
No, I never do these things.

 

I don't cross share app information, ever. As a matter of fact, every time I use Faceook, I log off when I'm done. I don't like them seeing what sites I browse next, etc.

 

Most people, I realize, don't care...but most people are suckers...and that's why they're hacked/compromised and have no idea.

Me either, but thats because I architect this stuff.

 

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ May 25, 2012 -> 11:11 AM)
I guess I don't see how that creates $ for a business at the end of the day.

Companies pay $$ for identity stores internally AD, Oracle, CA etc. To offload that to something in the "cloud" for their employees and most especially consumers saves much dinero. To be that identity provider for these companies we are talking about means alot of subscription revenue for that store. I sell facebook/linkedin/yahoo/google connectors to alot of companies to offload their identities (the golden arches did this with monopoly) and the business value is immense, if there was ONE of those, that company could charge out the ass for the service, and companies would pay it.

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QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ May 25, 2012 -> 10:49 AM)
Facebook is so vastly overrated. It's useful to share pictures and news about yourself, but who honestly goes onto facebook to view a product or business? I mean, I hate facebook and the entire idea behind it ("Look at me! Look! Look! Over here!") so perhaps i'm a little biased in thinking this way.

 

That is like calling Google a search engine.

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QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ May 25, 2012 -> 10:49 AM)
Facebook is so vastly overrated. It's useful to share pictures and news about yourself, but who honestly goes onto facebook to view a product or business? I mean, I hate facebook and the entire idea behind it ("Look at me! Look! Look! Over here!") so perhaps i'm a little biased in thinking this way.

 

I do. A lot of local bars and restaurants that have sprung up recently do not have a website, but have a FB page. I can think of 3-4 places off the top of my head that I have checked out their FB pages for to find out drink specials, locations, hours, what people are saying about it, pictures of the place, etc.

 

Products? No, probably not because any product sold by a company, probably have a company website, but local businesses seem to gravitate toward FB a lot more than making an actual website.

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QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ May 26, 2012 -> 02:43 AM)
I do. A lot of local bars and restaurants that have sprung up recently do not have a website, but have a FB page. I can think of 3-4 places off the top of my head that I have checked out their FB pages for to find out drink specials, locations, hours, what people are saying about it, pictures of the place, etc.

 

Products? No, probably not because any product sold by a company, probably have a company website, but local businesses seem to gravitate toward FB a lot more than making an actual website.

 

And will say that I have gone to places based on facebook specials.

 

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QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ May 25, 2012 -> 10:49 AM)
Facebook is so vastly overrated. It's useful to share pictures and news about yourself, but who honestly goes onto facebook to view a product or business? I mean, I hate facebook and the entire idea behind it ("Look at me! Look! Look! Over here!") so perhaps i'm a little biased in thinking this way.

 

I have "liked" several bars and restaurants and use it to see what specials they have going on. It is convenient for me and has increased their business by helping to create regulars. The local news organizations who I have "liked" make it convenient for me to see their top stories, and I have clicked on their links. I also have discovered new places from seeing where my friends check in on FourSquare and in the past four months or so have used foodspotting and have been to a couple new restaurants that I would not have otherwise.

 

Yeah, all of those could have happened through other channels, but Facebook has made some of it easier.

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Facebook has replaced my personal web page portal that I previously built and maintained. Much easier. I do miss the almost complete control I had from my old "start page", but FB works fine for that.

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QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ May 26, 2012 -> 03:43 AM)
I do. A lot of local bars and restaurants that have sprung up recently do not have a website, but have a FB page. I can think of 3-4 places off the top of my head that I have checked out their FB pages for to find out drink specials, locations, hours, what people are saying about it, pictures of the place, etc.

 

Products? No, probably not because any product sold by a company, probably have a company website, but local businesses seem to gravitate toward FB a lot more than making an actual website.

I have a number of products or companies I've "Liked" in exchange for either contest entries or coupons. Some I'll unlike, some I'll still keep.

 

Also have a number of entertainment pages on there, TV shows, sports teams, movies, bands, to get their updates.

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QUOTE (Tex @ May 26, 2012 -> 10:14 AM)
Facebook has replaced my personal web page portal that I previously built and maintained. Much easier. I do miss the almost complete control I had from my old "start page", but FB works fine for that.

 

Eh, I can't agree...I don't see how FB replicates a true "start page".

 

This is my default "start page", AKA iGoogle...how does Facebook come anywhere close to replicating this?

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 26, 2012 -> 12:07 AM)
That is like calling Google a search engine.

 

Except that Facebook is step 2 or 3 in that search process instead of the first stop, which is why I don't understand where the insane value comes from. Is it a valuable commodity? Yes. Is it a hundreds of billions worth? I don't see it.

 

And ok, so you can get some coupons for "liking" a restaurant, but that's one of a bunch of companies that offer the same thing - yelp, foursquare, etc. - companies that have been doing it for a little longer. Just like Facebook is one of many companies that can do photo sharing (Instagram was a big purchase for that obviously). I don't see them being able to generate a revenue stream like Google when Google already exists and owns what Facebook wants to do (even in a slightly different form). I'm not bashing people that use Facebook, i'm just saying I don't see where the value comes from.

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QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ May 31, 2012 -> 10:31 AM)
Except that Facebook is step 2 or 3 in that search process instead of the first stop, which is why I don't understand where the insane value comes from. Is it a valuable commodity? Yes. Is it a hundreds of billions worth? I don't see it.

 

And ok, so you can get some coupons for "liking" a restaurant, but that's one of a bunch of companies that offer the same thing - yelp, foursquare, etc. - companies that have been doing it for a little longer. Just like Facebook is one of many companies that can do photo sharing (Instagram was a big purchase for that obviously). I don't see them being able to generate a revenue stream like Google when Google already exists and owns what Facebook wants to do (even in a slightly different form). I'm not bashing people that use Facebook, i'm just saying I don't see where the value comes from.

There's 2 key possible value steps there...first, in terms of liking a restaurant, you need to be connected to a wide group of friends already on that site for that "like/checkin" to mean anything. If I like something on foursquare, it does very little because there aren't a billion people on there. If I check in on Yelp, only a few people see that unless I stop to write a very detailed review. Having everything, including a ton of people, at one site, is a game-changer.

 

Secondly, the fact that everyone is on there already means a lot of content and information available to facebook, which gives them the ability to keep having people look back. it gives them the ability to have people on their site a long time, and develop ads and information use strategies that take advantage of that.

 

Their problem right now isn't monetizing what they have, that would come with time...I think their problem is actually shifting platforms. They have admitted they are struggling with how to make money off of their mobile apps because it's harder to advertise on there, and that's the way a lot of their users are rapidly shifting.

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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 6, 2012 -> 10:26 AM)
Windows 8 wants to turn your PC into a smartphone.

 

This almost feels like a fail, but then again, the layout of Windows for PC hasn't changed that much, but it sure looks like it's about to...

 

There is a normal desktop in Windows 8. I tried out the release candidate a while back.

 

I wasn't a fan of the whole touch thing. It'd be great on a tablet, but I don't have one...

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http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/06/apple-c...g-galaxy-s-iii/

 

The data tapping patent is possibly the lamest and most unimaginative patent ever. That's something anyone can come up with. It's like Oracle suing Google over range check. Anybody can write that code, it's so easy and straight forward that it pretty much has to look the same in everybody's code.

 

Seriously, I hope Apple's lawyers burn.

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QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 6, 2012 -> 07:22 PM)
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/06/apple-c...g-galaxy-s-iii/

 

The data tapping patent is possibly the lamest and most unimaginative patent ever. That's something anyone can come up with. It's like Oracle suing Google over range check. Anybody can write that code, it's so easy and straight forward that it pretty much has to look the same in everybody's code.

 

Seriously, I hope Apple's lawyers burn.

Dont' be mad at Apple's lawyers, be mad at the Congress and lobbyists who wrote the patent laws.

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