RockRaines Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 02:06 PM) Same as their current mapping app, Google Maps. Ah, I would leverage that if I was them. Mapping is something i think should be standardized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 02:06 PM) Yep. And Apple also underproduces their products at launch so that way people can talk about how fast they sold out of items. If people hear something is selling out fast, they are going to assume it must be awesome, and then want to get it. Point being? That it's good business? That Apple is there to make money? That you're knocking a company for wanting to market it's product as popular? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 01:06 PM) I travel often for work and I now live in a new state. It's a critical app for me. Yeah, I can understand that...and I understand it if it is a high priority for you when it comes to making your decision about purchasing a phone. But the outrage in here is ridiculous...some people are acting as if it is a breathing apparatus and we're asking you to walk around on Mars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 02:06 PM) I travel often for work and I now live in a new state. It's a critical app for me. I got the mapquest nav app awhile back and its great, I believe it was like a buck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 12:08 PM) No, I might be the only person here not pretending there aren't viable alternatives. There are. I do like Google maps, but it's not so much better than Bing maps, or the upcoming Apple maps that I couldn't switch. Let me clarify. Google Map's turn by turn navigation is absolutely excellent and that's what I rely heavily on. I already know they are rated the best in mapping services so the backbone/foundation for their navigation is nothing I ever have to worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/verizon-ditc...-120639203.html NEW YORK (AP) -- Verizon Wireless, the nation's largest cellphone company, is dropping nearly all of its phone plans in favor of pricing schemes that allow consumers to share data usage among up to ten phones and other devices. The new plans will let individuals add non-phone devices like tablets and laptops to their plans, as well as the phones of family members. The change takes effect June 28. It's the biggest revamp in wireless pricing in years, and one that's likely to be copied by other carriers. AT&T Inc. has already said that it's looking at introducing shared-data plans soon. Verizon's new "Share Everything" plans include unlimited phone calls and texting, and will start at $90 per month for one smartphone and 1 gigabyte of data. If used only with a smartphone, "Share Everything" prices are lower than for current plans with unlimited calling and texting, but higher than plans with limited calling and texting. Bigger savings will come for those who add more devices like tablets to their plans. In such cases, the new pricing system will be cheaper compared to getting separate data plans for each device. That gives Verizon a chance to capitalize on the growing popularity of tablets. Few consumers put tablets on data plans, probably because they dread paying an extra $30 or so per month, on top of their phone bills. Under "Share Everything," adding a tablet to a plan will cost $10 per month. Adding a USB data stick for a laptop will cost $20. Verizon's limited-calling and texting plans will disappear, except for one $40-per-month plan intended for "dumb" phones. Verizon is keeping its limited-data plans for single non-phone devices, like the $30 tablet plan. Current Verizon customers will be able to switch to the new plans or keep their old ones, with one exception. Those who have unlimited-data plans for their smartphones won't be able to move those to new phones, unless they pay the full, unsubsidized price for those phones. (For example, an iPhone 4S that costs $200 with a two-year contract costs $650 unsubsidized, with no contract.) Verizon stopped signing people up for unlimited-data plans last summer. The industry as a whole is moving away from the plans, since the data capacity of their networks is limited. Under the new plans, subscribers can stop worrying about monitoring the number of calling minutes or text messages their families use in a month, but they'll have to keep a close eye on data consumption. Verizon will allow subscribers to adjust their data allowance from month to month, but if they go over their monthly allotment, that will cost $15 per gigabyte. The data allowances start at $50 per month for 1 gigabyte. That's enough for prudent two-smartphone users who use Wi-Fi a lot, but Verizon recommends getting 2 gigabytes for $60. After that, each additional 2 gigabytes cost an extra $10 per month. Under "Share Everything," Verizon will stop charging extra for letting devices act as "mobile Wi-Fi hotspots." That means subscribers who have a recent smartphone could use it to connect a tablet to the Internet, without paying the extra $10 per month for a tablet. Verizon had telegraphed the move toward shared plans, but had not revealed the details or pricing. Verizon Wireless is a joint venture of New York-based phone company Verizon Communications Inc. and Vodafone Group PLC, a British cellphone company with wide international interests. Um, so it's just as expensive to have 2 devices on 2gb/mth individual data plans as it is to have them on a 2gb/mth "share everything" plans, at least have a bit of savings if you're going to halve the data limit!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 02:07 PM) Oh goodness.....you're so full of s***. You don't have to be so naive, trust me, you can change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 02:14 PM) You don't have to be so naive, trust me, you can change. Says the guy who knows NOTHING about business.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 02:12 PM) http://finance.yahoo.com/news/verizon-ditc...-120639203.html Um, so it's just as expensive to have 2 devices on 2gb/mth individual data plans as it is to have them on a 2gb/mth "share everything" plans, at least have a bit of savings if you're going to halve the data limit!! I will say, I have NEVER gone over 2 gigs with 2 phones, not even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 02:11 PM) Let me clarify. Google Map's turn by turn navigation is absolutely excellent and that's what I rely heavily on. I already know they are rated the best in mapping services so the backbone/foundation for their navigation is nothing I ever have to worry about. I prefer my Jeep's built in NAV to Google's maps, because my Jeep's nav works no matter where I am, and Google's requires Internet access...I know they've done work to improve that on Android via caching, but again, they let their IOS app fall behind, so I'm glad Apple is dumping them. If I do have Internet access I love Google maps, but sometimes that's not reliable. Edited June 12, 2012 by Y2HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 02:09 PM) Point being? That it's good business? That Apple is there to make money? That you're knocking a company for wanting to market it's product as popular? No, I am saying just because they may be upping their shipping times does not necessarily mean that the item is "flying off the shelves", it could just be yet another instance of them underproducing to create a stir. I made no comment about how I felt about this method or strategy, now did I? So don't say I am knocking them for it when I never said that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 02:15 PM) Says the guy who knows NOTHING about business.... Due to.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 02:16 PM) I will say, I have NEVER gone over 2 gigs with 2 phones, not even close. I don't think I have either, since I am on wifi most of the time (though I do sometimes stream Netflix while working out at the facility located where I work, which requires 3G and that can add a load to it). That said, 2gbs for 2 phones per month may not be enough, and they don't even have any savings whatsoever to make that switch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 01:14 PM) You don't have to be so naive, trust me, you can change. I used to be just like you about 10 years ago, trust me...and then I actually gave one of their devices a chance... I've ordered two iPads and like 3 iPhones online at launch and two of them arrived at my home prior to the release date in stores... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 02:16 PM) I prefer my Jeep's built in NAV to Google's maps, because my Jeep's nav works no matter where I am, and Google's requires Internet access...I know they've done work to improve that on Android via caching, but again, they let their IOS app fall behind, so I'm glad Apple is dumping them. If I do have Internet access I love Google maps, but sometimes that's not reliable. Do you have Garmin in your jeep? I f***ing hate it. I miss my infiniti's entire electronics stack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 02:21 PM) Do you have Garmin in your jeep? I f***ing hate it. I miss my infiniti's entire electronics stack No, it's not Garmin...it's defiantly not as intuitive as Google maps, but it works without an Internet connection, which is important sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 02:17 PM) No, I am saying just because they may be upping their shipping times does not necessarily mean that the item is "flying off the shelves", it could just be yet another instance of them underproducing to create a stir. I made no comment about how I felt about this method or strategy, now did I? So don't say I am knocking them for it when I never said that. Oh please, your shtick here is to blast anything Apple does. QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 02:17 PM) Due to.... Your lack of business acumen that you have clearly shown in this thread. A) The amount of demand is huge for Apple products upon their release dates, they do a great job marketing each release. B) The supply shortages are a part of releasing the product strategically, no consumer likes looking at a store full of unsold iPhones as they are about to make a brand new purchase. C) These products do take time to produce, and releasing a product from a line that has shown to have steady sales for months after release doesn't force them to risk bringing that amount of product out initially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 02:20 PM) I used to be just like you about 10 years ago, trust me...and then I actually gave one of their devices a chance... I've ordered two iPads and like 3 iPhones online at launch and two of them arrived at my home prior to the release date in stores... I used to be too cheap for Apple products back when I was in high school, then when I started having more money from working and looking at products I realized that their features and price actually were pretty fair (though their laptops are still pricey in my mind). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I like reddit sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Ha, well done there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 02:22 PM) Oh please, your shtick here is to blast anything Apple does. Ok, so do you agree or disagree that they purposefully underproduce products to create a false sense of inflated demand? Anything else you get from that is just conjecture on your part. My disdain for Apple does not change the fact that what I've said today is true. Edited June 12, 2012 by JoeCoolMan24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Haha, I love the Onion. http://www.theonion.com/articles/apple-cla...ost-loyal,2772/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 02:31 PM) Ok, so do you agree or disagree that they purposefully underproduce products to create a false sense of inflated demand? Anything else you get from that is just conjecture on your part. My disdain for Apple does not change the fact that what I've said today is true. It may be a factor, but really it's that they don't need to risk or invest in the time/resources to supply all they need for Day 1 sales at every single reseller. Also, as mentioned, ordering via online is easy, convenient, and delivers on-time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Ive never waited for an apple product so im not sure whats the point about there being a shortage? I would say most electronics appear to be hard to get like the PS3 etc, its not really an Apple thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 01:31 PM) Ok, so do you agree or disagree that they purposefully underproduce products to create a false sense of inflated demand? Anything else you get from that is just conjecture on your part. My disdain for Apple does not change the fact that what I've said today is true. I've never looked into this because I've never had a problem getting one...I don't understand why people go wait in stores for this thing when it just shows up at your house the day before...but if it is indeed true, can you provide some sort of evidence to prove it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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