BigSqwert Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Just pre-ordered a couple of Nexus 7 tablets for me and the wife. At $199.00 each how can I go wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I already got Jelly Bean. That was fast wasn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Google Now has some great potential to be Android's Siri. It's better than any voice app I've used on Android, even S Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 (edited) Google Chrome was released on iOS for you Apple fans out there. Very fast, seems like a great implementation. I'll have a more in depth review of it after I get to use it more. As you can see, unlike some people around here...I can judge a company on specific products instead of being a douche monkey and thinking everything they do is awesome...when it's not. Yes, I'm looking at you chw. Not everything Google does is good. Apples browser f***ing sucks. I don't care how much of a fan of Apple you are, to say otherwise is stupid. And yes, I'm being condescending. Edited June 29, 2012 by Y2HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 28, 2012 -> 06:03 PM) I already got Jelly Bean. That was fast wasn't it? Not really. No. I actually say that in jest...as I know you are a Nexus user. It's not the 300,000 people using Nexus phones that they need to worry about...it's the 350 million people NOT using their Nexus phone...some of which are still using Android v2.3...or even 1.2. I really wish Google would crack down on these carriers...it's self inflicted fragmentation. Now, to be honest, there is nothing they or anyone else can do about some degree of fragmentation...some users will refuse to upgrade, or simply do not care...but they are the ones you dont have to worry about as a business. But I do think there is a lot they can do about cracking down on more timely non-hacked upgrades to support their users. I don't think anyone does search, e-mail or web browsing better than Google. That said, I don't think anyone does phones or tablets better than Apple. I'm also happy Microsoft is throwing their hat into these arenas. Competition rules. For us. I have to say, on a personal note...I see wayyyyy too much modern "brand alignment"/fanboism these days...and it bothers me. It's ok to like Google products, or Apple products...but it's insane to NOT think someone else has stuff that's better than what you use. I'd easily love to pick and choose what features I want from say, a Nexus and an iPhone, and combine them onto one awesome device. But this brand loyalty insanity as of late really bothers me, and it reeks of technological ignorance. Also of note that goes with what I just said in my previous paragraph, Android 4.1 no longer supports Flash...but I'm sure Android users will suddenly be ok with this despite it being a talking point of theirs for years now. Edited June 29, 2012 by Y2HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 28, 2012 -> 07:09 PM) Google Now has some great potential to be Android's Siri. It's better than any voice app I've used on Android, even S Voice. Siri is a decent voice recognition system. So it's Google's...and Google's newer stuff seems wonderful. The issue is, they're voice recognition systems. I use Siri for certain tasks, namely setting appointments or alarms...but other than that, 99% of what I do on my cell phone is VERY private...and I don't feel I need to be saying it aloud...whether it be financial stuff, email, texts...it's private...and it doesn't need to be spoken aloud just because. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jun 28, 2012 -> 08:03 PM) The issue is, they're voice recognition systems. I use Siri for certain tasks, namely setting appointments or alarms...but other than that, 99% of what I do on my cell phone is VERY private...and I don't feel I need to be saying it aloud...whether it be financial stuff, email, texts...it's private...and it doesn't need to be spoken aloud just because. I've always complained about Siri because it's not really useful for me, but you explained it way better than I ever have. It does what it's supposed to, but ultimately who cares? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 QUOTE (danman31 @ Jun 28, 2012 -> 08:07 PM) I've always complained about Siri because it's not really useful for me, but you explained it way better than I ever have. It does what it's supposed to, but ultimately who cares? Voice has it's uses...but right now, in it's infancy, they're throwing everything, including the kitchen sink at it...for the exact reason you somewhat said without saying...just because. Who cares. Some of these voice features have little to no use as you need physical phone contant to initiate them...for example, launching an app...you had to pick up, and unlock your phone, or initiate voice recognition in some regard, be it picking up the device a certain way, or holding down a hard or soft key in a certain way, in order to do it. It's key to note that this technology is in it's infancy...but for the most part, for now anyway, anything these voice commands do...you could have don 9000% faster by NOT being a douchenozzle trying to show off the stupid voice feature to your friends and just loaded the app normally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jun 28, 2012 -> 07:53 PM) Google Chrome was released on iOS for you Apple fans out there. Very fast, seems like a great implementation. I'll have a more in depth review of it after I get to use it more. As you can see, unlike some people around here...I can judge a company on specific products instead of being a douche monkey and thinking everything they do is awesome...when it's not. Yes, I'm looking at you chw. Not everything Google does is good. Apples browser f***ing sucks. I don't care how much of a fan of Apple you are, to say otherwise is stupid. And yes, I'm being condescending. As a follow up on this post...Chrome on iOS is just ok...it's slower than Safari, but it has a better interface. Mostly due to Apples self imposed protective walled garden rules on other applications/web browsers. It's one of the drawbacks to the Apple closed ecosystem...but I still think the benefits of it outweigh the drawbacks...for now anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jun 28, 2012 -> 07:53 PM) Not really. No. I actually say that in jest...as I know you are a Nexus user. It's not the 300,000 people using Nexus phones that they need to worry about...it's the 350 million people NOT using their Nexus phone...some of which are still using Android v2.3...or even 1.2. My phone's only about a year old (Droid X2) and they haven't released an official update since 2.3. Annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jun 28, 2012 -> 07:53 PM) Not really. No. I actually say that in jest...as I know you are a Nexus user. It's not the 300,000 people using Nexus phones that they need to worry about...it's the 350 million people NOT using their Nexus phone...some of which are still using Android v2.3...or even 1.2. I really wish Google would crack down on these carriers...it's self inflicted fragmentation. Now, to be honest, there is nothing they or anyone else can do about some degree of fragmentation...some users will refuse to upgrade, or simply do not care...but they are the ones you dont have to worry about as a business. But I do think there is a lot they can do about cracking down on more timely non-hacked upgrades to support their users. I don't think anyone does search, e-mail or web browsing better than Google. That said, I don't think anyone does phones or tablets better than Apple. I'm also happy Microsoft is throwing their hat into these arenas. Competition rules. For us. I have to say, on a personal note...I see wayyyyy too much modern "brand alignment"/fanboism these days...and it bothers me. It's ok to like Google products, or Apple products...but it's insane to NOT think someone else has stuff that's better than what you use. I'd easily love to pick and choose what features I want from say, a Nexus and an iPhone, and combine them onto one awesome device. But this brand loyalty insanity as of late really bothers me, and it reeks of technological ignorance. Also of note that goes with what I just said in my previous paragraph, Android 4.1 no longer supports Flash...but I'm sure Android users will suddenly be ok with this despite it being a talking point of theirs for years now. Considering the OS isn't even officially out yet, that was fast. My comment was more or less towards how fast the Android community is at getting stuff done. Google did mention they were going to give OEM manufacturers a development kit for every major release a few months ahead of time, but I don't think that's going to solve things. The difference of Google ditching flash (or it could be said that Adobe ditched mobile) now and Apple ditching flash four years ago is huge. Flash dominated the web 4 years ago, but HTML5 sites are more and more prevalent. I would not have been able to watch video highlights on mlb.com with my iPod 4 years ago, but I can do it now without issue on Chrome for Android since mlb.com now supports HTML5. Edited June 29, 2012 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 29, 2012 -> 08:26 AM) My phone's only about a year old (Droid X2) and they haven't released an official update since 2.3. Annoying. My Droid Razr was supposed to get ice cream sandwich back in February. Supposedly they're rolling it out this last week, but I still haven't seen any update news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Contract is up and looking at the Iphone. How much memory should you get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 29, 2012 -> 10:26 AM) Contract is up and looking at the Iphone. How much memory should you get? It's actually storage space, not memory...and it comes in 16/32/64 gigs...so it all depends on how much stuff you want to store on the device. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 29, 2012 -> 10:26 AM) Contract is up and looking at the Iphone. How much memory should you get? Are you going to use it for mp3's and movies, then get the bigger ones. I have the 16 gig and its plenty since I listen to pandora and use my ipad for movies and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jun 29, 2012 -> 06:19 AM) As a follow up on this post...Chrome on iOS is just ok...it's slower than Safari, but it has a better interface. Mostly due to Apples self imposed protective walled garden rules on other applications/web browsers. It's one of the drawbacks to the Apple closed ecosystem...but I still think the benefits of it outweigh the drawbacks...for now anyway. Mine isnt running any slower. Cant figure out how to put a shortcut to it on my ipad desktop yet though Edited June 29, 2012 by RockRaines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 29, 2012 -> 12:22 PM) Are you going to use it for mp3's and movies, then get the bigger ones. I have the 16 gig and its plenty since I listen to pandora and use my ipad for movies and such. Maybe some music, but mostly aps and internet access. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 29, 2012 -> 01:24 PM) Maybe some music, but mostly aps and internet access. 16 is fine then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 29, 2012 Author Share Posted June 29, 2012 16 is just enough space for about 8 gigs of music, a reasonable number of apps, and some books... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Good deal. I can get one new for $200, or a used one for $150 with sprint. Now I have to decide whether it is worth it to save the $100 (the wife gets one too). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 29, 2012 -> 12:22 PM) Mine isnt running any slower. Cant figure out how to put a shortcut to it on my ipad desktop yet though They've done extensive benchmarks, it's slower. From PCWorld: (It's artificially gimped by Apples rules) Chrome for iOS might be a useful browser if you use it on your desktop already, but don’t rush into thinking it could become your default browser on iOS. The reason is that Chrome is slower -- and can’t be faster – than Safari. This is because Apple is restricting the use of its Nitro JavaScript engine to Safari, while other apps don’t have access to it. Edited June 29, 2012 by Y2HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jun 29, 2012 -> 02:56 PM) They've done extensive benchmarks, it's slower. From PCWorld: (It's artificially gimped by Apples rules) Chrome for iOS might be a useful browser if you use it on your desktop already, but don’t rush into thinking it could become your default browser on iOS. The reason is that Chrome is slower -- and can’t be faster – than Safari. This is because Apple is restricting the use of its Nitro JavaScript engine to Safari, while other apps don’t have access to it. Interesting, I honestly dont notice a difference on my ipad. The bookmarking is wonky though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 A little while ago, Apple was granted a preliminary injunction on sales of the Galaxy Nexus in the United States. As soon as Apple posts a 93 million dollar bond, sales of the Galaxy Nexus will be banned in the United States, due to patent infringement on design. Meanwhile, the same judge cleared Apple of infringement against Samsung. In the past two day, Apple has been granted US sales bans on the Galaxy Tab 2 and now the Galaxy Nexus. While preliminary...these are MAJOR blows to Samsung. The issue with most of Samsung's counter claims against Apple is they are all based on FRAND licensed patents, which are very hard to argue in court due to their standards essential nature. Articles: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/06...mmer_trial.html http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/06...smartphone.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jun 29, 2012 -> 06:19 PM) A little while ago, Apple was granted a preliminary injunction on sales of the Galaxy Nexus in the United States. As soon as Apple posts a 93 million dollar bond, sales of the Galaxy Nexus will be banned in the United States, due to patent infringement on design. Meanwhile, the same judge cleared Apple of infringement against Samsung. In the past two day, Apple has been granted US sales bans on the Galaxy Tab 2 and now the Galaxy Nexus. While preliminary...these are MAJOR blows to Samsung. The issue with most of Samsung's counter claims against Apple is they are all based on FRAND licensed patents, which are very hard to argue in court due to their standards essential nature. Articles: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/06...mmer_trial.html http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/06...smartphone.html I just returned my GN (faulty radio on an international version) and ordered one from the Play Store today. I don't have time to read those articles right now, but I'll be really pissed if I don't get my device on-time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jun 29, 2012 -> 06:19 PM) A little while ago, Apple was granted a preliminary injunction on sales of the Galaxy Nexus in the United States. As soon as Apple posts a 93 million dollar bond, sales of the Galaxy Nexus will be banned in the United States, due to patent infringement on design. Meanwhile, the same judge cleared Apple of infringement against Samsung. In the past two day, Apple has been granted US sales bans on the Galaxy Tab 2 and now the Galaxy Nexus. While preliminary...these are MAJOR blows to Samsung. The issue with most of Samsung's counter claims against Apple is they are all based on FRAND licensed patents, which are very hard to argue in court due to their standards essential nature. Articles: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/06...mmer_trial.html http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/06...smartphone.html The funny thing is posting a 93 million dollar bond for Apple is like me posting a $50 deposit on a power washer at Home Depot Edited June 30, 2012 by iamshack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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