Jake Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 I'm kind of ambivalent on Anonymous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 10, 2012 -> 12:57 PM) LOL. Still waving that "im different" flag huh? Now Rock you know very well there are a lot of annoying Apple fan boys out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 10, 2012 -> 04:14 PM) Samsung, HTC, Nokia, Motorola...well, all of them partake in this exact same nonsense...yet you single out Apple? That doesn't make you sound biased or anything. It's because I AM BIASED! I f***ing hate Apple. I don't know why every time I make a comment about them, people are surprised. I'm not hiding my feeling about them. I hope the company goes bankrupt, and Steve Job's ghost will stop "reinventing" and "revolutionizing" everything. Somehow I think I'll survive with Apple. I don't even eat the fruit, because I hate them so much! Actually, that's a lie. I absolutely love apples. Apple juice, apple cider, apple pie, apple slices. I'll buy ANYTHING apple! (heh, heh, sounds familiar) Edited September 11, 2012 by JoeCoolMan24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Whitewashed in '05 @ Sep 10, 2012 -> 10:11 PM) Now Rock you know very well there are a lot of annoying Apple fan boys out there. lol those exact fanboys took the exact same stance Joe takes now 15 years ago. Back then, being an Apple user meant you were different. Edited September 11, 2012 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 10, 2012 -> 10:24 PM) It's because I AM BIASED! I f***ing hate Apple. I don't know why every time I make a comment about them, people are surprised. I'm not hiding my feeling about them. I hope the company goes bankrupt, and Steve Job's ghost will stop "reinventing" and "revolutionizing" everything. Somehow I think I'll survive with Apple. I don't even eat the fruit, because I hate them so much! Actually, that's a lie. I absolutely love apples. Apple juice, apple cider, apple pie, apple slices. I'll buy ANYTHING apple! (heh, heh, sounds familiar) So you're the exact same as the Apple fanboi's you claim to hate, only on the opposite side. That's pretty dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 12:37 AM) lol those exact fanboys took the exact same stance Joe takes now 15 years ago. Back then, being an Apple user meant you were different. The problem is, back then, it was kind of different to use Apple stuff, since only about 1% of the world did. Today, more people/devices use Google's Android than Apple's iPhone...so you aren't different for using Android, when a majority of people use them. This makes zero sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 07:25 AM) The problem is, back then, it was kind of different to use Apple stuff, since only about 1% of the world did. Today, more people/devices use Google's Android than Apple's iPhone...so you aren't different for using Android, when a majority of people use them. This makes zero sense. AS you know Android is an operating system and the iphone is a device, and the most widely used device in the market today. You cant compare android with the iphone, you can compare the sense or the samsung models with it for a fair comparison And Apple's roots are the people who wanted to be different and cool, up to a few years ago, now its "mainstream" and the "cool" guys are off being different with something else. Its fine with me, I like Apple for its intuitive designs and flawless hardware/software integration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 08:52 AM) AS you know Android is an operating system and the iphone is a device, and the most widely used device in the market today. You cant compare android with the iphone, you can compare the sense or the samsung models with it for a fair comparison And Apple's roots are the people who wanted to be different and cool, up to a few years ago, now its "mainstream" and the "cool" guys are off being different with something else. Its fine with me, I like Apple for its intuitive designs and flawless hardware/software integration. You can compare iOS with Android, which is what most of us do here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 07:25 AM) The problem is, back then, it was kind of different to use Apple stuff, since only about 1% of the world did. Today, more people/devices use Google's Android than Apple's iPhone...so you aren't different for using Android, when a majority of people use them. This makes zero sense. Except Joe likes Zunes...and those are like 1% of the MP3 player userbase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 11:18 AM) You can compare iOS with Android, which is what most of us do here. If you want to compare operating systems which was not the comparison here. It was the iphone in the phone marketplace in which case it compares with other hardware manufacturers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 11:56 AM) If you want to compare operating systems which was not the comparison here. It was the iphone in the phone marketplace in which case it compares with other hardware manufacturers. So what's your point...? That the iPhone holds the highest market-share in cell phones and not Android phones because we have to split Android phones into different manufacturers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 12:18 PM) So what's your point...? That the iPhone holds the highest market-share in cell phones and not Android phones because we have to split Android phones into different manufacturers? No that's already the case since "android" isn't a phone it's an operating system. There is no "android" phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 12:19 PM) Except Joe likes Zunes...and those are like 1% of the MP3 player userbase. I like the Zune HD, because it's f***ing awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 02:46 PM) I like the Zune HD, because it's f***ing awesome. So was BetaMax. Move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 12:59 PM) No that's already the case since "android" isn't a phone it's an operating system. There is no "android" phone. Everybody knows it's an operating system; we're not technologically-stupid. It's just a convenient way of refer to phones that run Android. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 02:49 PM) So was BetaMax. Move on. Now you are bashing him for being different...when he is actually being different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 03:50 PM) Everybody knows it's an operating system; we're not technologically-stupid. It's just a convenient way of refer to phones that run Android. Yes, but you cannot say Android is the number one phone people use because its not. Thats my entire point. The iphone is not comparable to the android operating system which was what was being said and what I replied to. The iphone dominates this market because the android platform has too many different devices operating on several different versions and customizations of android. Android does however dominate the mobile platform piece of the market, although in my experience developers are much more focused on developing applications for iOS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 03:49 PM) So was BetaMax. Move on. Not sure you could have thought of a more terrible analogy, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 05:39 PM) Not sure you could have thought of a more terrible analogy, really. Why exactly? Do you even remember betamax? Betamax was revolutionary technology that unfortunately was released as a proprietary platform for only one and then a small number of hardware manufacturers. They also never got the full buy in from the media companies. The Zune is a proprietary platform produced by only one supplier correct? And it was somewhat passed by by a more universally accepted technology? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 06:42 PM) Why exactly? Do you even remember betamax? Betamax was revolutionary technology that unfortunately was released as a proprietary platform for only one and then a small number of hardware manufacturers. They also never got the full buy in from the media companies. The Zune is a proprietary platform produced by only one supplier correct? And it was somewhat passed by by a more universally accepted technology? Telling me to "move on" from Zune HD and "move on" from Betamax aren't even close. Zune HD is still relevant today. It's not outdated. Maybe in 20 years I will "move on" from the Zune HD when technology has completely blown past it and it's so old it's not even relevant anymore. *In before, "Zune HD was never relevant. Har har har" jokes* Edited September 11, 2012 by JoeCoolMan24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 05:39 PM) Not sure you could have thought of a more terrible analogy, really. You simply missed the joke. This post shows that. Edited September 11, 2012 by Y2HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 05:46 PM) Telling me to "move on" from Zune HD and "move on" from Betamax aren't even close. Zune HD is still relevant today. It's not outdated. Maybe in 20 years I will "move on" from the Zune HD when technology has completely blown past it and it's so old it's not even relevant anymore. *In before, "Zune HD was never relevant. Har har har" jokes* The zune hd IS outdated today, as are ALL stand alone MP3 players. You aren't just wrong on this, you're so wrong, you've wrapped around to the other side so you think you're right. And if it was being used as an analogy, which you originally thought, you didn't have even understood the analogy, which both of your previous posts have shown. 20 years? WTF century do you live in? Technology has about a 2-3 year lifespan today, not 20. Now, as for why the analogy WOULD make sense: BetaMax was considered better than the alternative VHS. VHS won despite this because it had better 3rd party support, and better 3rd party tape support. BetaMax people eventually moved on when the technology was abandoned, despite their correct claim that it was better. Quite like how Microsoft abandoned the Zune...which it did. It's a dead tech with no future, whether you like it or not. Edited September 11, 2012 by Y2HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 05:46 PM) Zune f***ing zune. did Microsoft happen to patent Clippy? I hope so. Edited September 11, 2012 by mr_genius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 06:57 PM) The zune hd IS outdated today, as are ALL stand alone MP3 players. Disagree completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 04:08 PM) Disagree completely. The quickly evaporating market share for standalone mp3 players would have to side with Y2HH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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