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lol Shack, I thought you were a dedicated Apple follower.

 

It's right now.

 

I'm wondering what's in this new A6 chip. Probably a slightly underclocked Exynos dual core. I doubt a quad core can get 8 hours on LTE. That estimate sounds a bit generous.

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QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 12:45 PM)
lol Shack, I thought you were a dedicated Apple follower.

 

It's right now.

 

I'm wondering what's in this new A6 chip. Probably a slightly underclocked Exynos dual core. I doubt a quad core can get 8 hours on LTE. That estimate sounds a bit generous.

 

Apple is historically one of the more accurate when it comes to talking about battery life. I don't doubt them.

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QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 12:46 PM)
Apple is historically one of the more accurate when it comes to talking about battery life. I don't doubt them.

 

Do you think this new chip will be a quad core? If it's dual core, I can believe the 8 hours.

 

I haven't had a good experience with the iPhone battery. But I do think highly of the iPad battery. I easily get 3 days of use from a full charge.

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QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 12:47 PM)
Do you think this new chip will be a quad core? If it's dual core, I can believe the 8 hours.

 

I haven't had a good experience with the iPhone battery. But I do think highly of the iPad battery. I easily get 3 days of use from a full charge.

 

The A5X was dual core processor quad core gfx. No idea what the A6 is yet.

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QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 12:43 PM)
It's already occurring.

 

iPhone5 is 4", better quality screen, 3 mics for noise cancelation, 20% lighter and 18% thinner than the 4S. Uses an A6 chip, 2x faster/2x faster gfx than iPhone4s. LTE. Same talk time with 3G or LTE (8 Hours). Etc...etc...

Yeah, I am just catching up.

 

Thanks for the summary!

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QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 12:45 PM)
lol Shack, I thought you were a dedicated Apple follower.

 

It's right now.

 

I'm wondering what's in this new A6 chip. Probably a slightly underclocked Exynos dual core. I doubt a quad core can get 8 hours on LTE. That estimate sounds a bit generous.

I've been in meetings the last hour and a half :(

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QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 12:47 PM)
Do you think this new chip will be a quad core? If it's dual core, I can believe the 8 hours.

 

I haven't had a good experience with the iPhone battery. But I do think highly of the iPad battery. I easily get 3 days of use from a full charge.

 

I've had every version of the iPhone since the original. I've always had great battery life...there are probably some options you have enabled that should be disabled.

 

I'd tell you where they are, but I can't, since I use iOS6, I forget where the options you need to disable exist in iOS5. :)

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QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 12:50 PM)
I've had every version of the iPhone since the original. I've always had great battery life...there are probably some options you have enabled that should be disabled.

Yeah, I agree...the only times I really burn through it is when I am texting continuously throughout s***ty Sox games like last night :(

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QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 12:50 PM)
I've had every version of the iPhone since the original. I've always had great battery life...there are probably some options you have enabled that should be disabled.

 

I'd tell you where they are, but I can't, since I use iOS6, I forget where the options you need to disable exist in iOS5. :)

 

lol I don't have an iPhone right now.

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QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 12:52 PM)
Yeah, I agree...the only times I really burn through it is when I am texting continuously throughout s***ty Sox games like last night :(

 

...and that's an AT&T problem...with the crappy signals at games like that despite having a full signal.

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QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 01:14 PM)
Oh, the new phone ships next week. ;)

 

Pre orders on the 14th.

 

Ships on the 21st.

If I order things on the first pre-order day, I usually get it a day earlier than launch even...I dunno if that is related to me being on the west coast or not...

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QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 01:17 PM)
If I order things on the first pre-order day, I usually get it a day earlier than launch even...I dunno if that is related to me being on the west coast or not...

 

That has everything to do with your shipper (fedex/ups) not following Apples instructions of not delivering until they say, not location. More often than not, you're device will be at the local carrier on hold for a few days when they ship them.

 

My iPad3 was held at the local facility for days before they delivered it to me. Some of the shippers simply don't care.

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QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 12:27 PM)
That has everything to do with your shipper (fedex/ups) not following Apples instructions of not delivering until they say, not location. More often than not, you're device will be at the local carrier on hold for a few days when they ship them.

 

My iPad3 was held at the local facility for days before they delivered it to me. Some of the shippers simply don't care.

Yeah, I did notice my iPads have been held for a few days, but still delivered early.

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QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 01:43 PM)
It's already occurring.

 

iPhone5 is 4", better quality screen, 3 mics for noise cancelation, 20% lighter and 18% thinner than the 4S. Uses an A6 chip, 2x faster/2x faster gfx than iPhone4s. LTE. Same talk time with 3G or LTE (8 Hours). Etc...etc...

 

Same camera in 4s, despite being thinner, better low light. Can take 28megapixel panoramas. 720p facetime front facing camera.

So basically it's a large upgrade but it's not going to rewrite the book. That's actually what I was afraid of...I was hoping they had something astonishing in this model that would make it a no-brainer to upgrade.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 02:12 PM)
So basically it's a large upgrade but it's not going to rewrite the book. That's actually what I was afraid of...I was hoping they had something astonishing in this model that would make it a no-brainer to upgrade.

 

There won't really be any such things until the next quantum leap in cellular/battery technology comes around...which won't be for a while. They're just computers at this point, and will be incremental upgrades across the board, regardless of it being Apple, Samsung, etc...there isn't much more to do at the moment.

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from gizmodo

 

Physical specifications

The iPhone 5 looks exactly as the leaked images: an unibody aluminum body with a glass screen. "It's thinner than the previous generation: 18 percent thinner, which puts it at 0.29 inches (7.6 millimeter). They are claiming this is the world's thinnest smartphone. It's actually the world's thinnest LTE smartphone.

 

It's also 20 percent lighter than the current iPhone, just 3.95 ounces (112 grams). It comes in black and white models.

 

Their new manufacturing method seems quite extraordinary. According to Jon Ive, they "have never built a product with this extraordinary level of fit and finish." They claim that the "variances from product to product is now measured in microns."

 

The screen

Apple claims that the new 16:9 4-inch panoramic screen has 44 percent more saturation than the iPhone, which makes the display full sRGB. The display has its touchscreen sensor built-in.

 

 

 

How does it work? Instead of having two layers, the pixels of the display and the touch sensors, Apple affirms that here "the pixels do double duty—acting as touch-sensing electrodes while displaying the image at the same time." Apple says that no other phone in the market has this, which Apple says is crucial to the iPhone 5's thinness, lower weight and—more importantly—its image quality. Since there's nothing between the glass and the pixels, the say the image is much clearer than before.

 

Connectivity

As expected, it uses LTE connectivity, so it will be much faster that the current iPhone 4S. It supports all the standards needed for all carriers: HSPA+, DC-HSDPA and LTE. Apple says that their single-chip solution works everywhere.

 

The iPhone 5 also has dual-channel 5GHz Wi-Fi—aka 802.11N. That means a 150Mbps maximum connectivity speed.

 

Brains

It also has a new CPU, the A6—which Apple claims is 2 times faster than the current iPhone 4S both in CPU and graphics. In real life, they claim it loads web pages 2.1 times as fast.

 

Battery life

If true, this is impressive: 8 hours of 3G talk time, 8 hours of LTE browsing, 10 hours of Wi-Fi browsing, 30 hours of video and 225 hours of standby.

 

Camera features

They have also updated the camera. On paper, it's better than the one in iPhone 4S, with a five-element lens and a 8 megapixel sensor (3264 x 2448 pixel), backside illumination, a new hybrid infrared filter, and a nice f/2.4 aperture.

 

It has a new dynamic low light mode too (I wonder how it compares to Nokia's IOS) and a sapphire crystal. Knowing how scratched the glass on my iPhone is—making the photos not as crisp as when it was new—that's good news. Shapphire crystal is the hardest thing you can get this side of a diamond.

 

The new image processing chip has spatial noise reduction, with a system to analyze which parts of the image needs to be noise reduced and which should be left alone. As a result of all this, they claim low light photography is now much better than before.

 

Here's an image taken with the new iPhone, which Apple claims it's completely unretouched:

 

 

 

The image capture is also faster: 40 percent, they say. The iPhone 4S camera is now quite fast, so it will be interesting to see how this feels. Certainly, there's not such a thing as fast enough when it comes to taking photos.

 

Panorama mode

They have also added a new capture mode called panorama. It doesn't require you to stitch photos one by one: just pan the phone and it will automatically capture a panorama for you. Even if you can't hold it steady, iPhone 5 is smart, using its gyroscope to correct for any variation in motion and make a perfect panorama. It also gets rid of any moving objects, they say.

 

The final result covers 240 degrees.

 

Video face detection

Like the previous iPhone, this one has 1080p FullHD capture. They claim they have improved the image stabilization in this version, added face detection (so it will be able to tag people automatically in videos) and, this is good, it will allow you to take full still photos while recording video.

 

Front FaceTime camera

They have also make the 720p front camera better. It also has Face detection and—at last—the operating system will enable FaceTime over cellular.

 

 

 

Audio

Apple has also upgraded all the audio: the microphones, the built-in speakers and the earbuds, now called EarPods.

 

It now has three microphones—on the front, back and bottom. These will improve the quality of your voice calls—whoever calls anymore—and sound recordings. More importantly, they have include noise canceling without the need for external specialized headphones. Apple says that their technology cancels the noise from the place in which you are in, so you hear "the voice on the other end" more clearly.

 

The speakers have much better quality now, going from three to five magnet transducers, which will result in a clearer, richer sound. Any improvement over the cricket boxes of previous versions is welcome.

 

They have also improved the quality of voice calls. According to Phil Schiller, the new iPhone 5 can use something called wideband audio. If supported by the carrier, the phone will use more of the spectrum bandwidth to send much better and high-fidelity version of your voice over the network.

 

 

 

New Dock connector: Lightning

As predicted, the dock connector has changed. It's now much smaller. Apple calls it Lightning (a name play of their other connector technology: Thunderbolt). It's all digital and has 8 connectors. It also has an adaptive interface, which I guess means that the connector will send different signals according to the kind of features you need in your connection.

 

They best thing about the new connector, however, is that it is reversible. This may seem stupid, but being able to connect your cable no matter of the orientation will protect humanity against the 529th Article of Murphy's Law: "Thou will always try to connect your iPhone cable on the wrong side."

 

 

 

Does that mean that you would have to trash your old dock accessory? No, they are giving us an adapter that will turn the old connector into the new Lightning. Phil Schiller says that they are working with peripheral manufacturers to include Lightning in their next batch of products, which will arrive this Holiday Season.

 

Price and availability

They are keeping exactly the same prices as the previous generation. The iPhone 5 16GB is $199, the 32GB is $299 and the 64GB is $399, all with a two-year contract.

 

In the United States, Canada, UK, France, Germany, Australia, Japan, Hong Kong and Singapore you will be able to pre-order it this Friday and get it the next, September 21 The other countries will have it on September 28.

 

Oh, and if that's still too expensive for you: the iPhone 4S is now $99 with a two-year contract. The iPhone 4 will be free with the same contract.

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Installing iOS6 Gold Master now.

 

Edit: Rock, if you want iOS6GM, I can give it to you...just PM me your UDID # from iTunes so I can enable it through Apple and I'll give you a link to the software.

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