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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 03:48 PM)
So being the patient human I am I waited for the iphone to come out before I bought anything.

 

My last samsung (pre-android, galaxy) really annoys the hell out of me, so Im leaning towards Apple. That being said, if an android platform is better, I would prefer it.

 

But it's not better. It's just user preference.

 

I've used Android, Windows Mobile and iOS. They all perform the same basic functions, and are all about looks/style/feel. Apples advantage is the 3rd party support, instant software upgrades, and a huge app library/support structure. Apple's hardware/software tends to work together a bit better than alternatives because they control both. But that said, it's strictly user preference.

 

The iPhone 5 is a capable device, as is the Samsung Galaxy SIII, etc...

 

If you hack Android, you can hack iPhones, too...if that's your game.

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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 04:24 PM)
It's hard when you have such a pointless agenda.

 

Like I said, he adds nothing to the technology conversation of worth, ever.

 

He's trolling now, because it's all he does here. Ignore it.

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 05:00 PM)
I don't know if this is better or worse than people who argue over which gaming consoles are better.

 

It's the same.

 

It's choice.

 

Instead of being happy to have choice, they'd rather argue about why theirs is awesome, instead of actually being open minded about it and TRYING other stuff and making a decision of their own.

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QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 05:02 PM)
It's the same.

 

It's choice.

 

Instead of being happy to have choice, they'd rather argue about why theirs is awesome, instead of actually being open minded about it and TRYING other stuff and making a decision of their own.

 

yep, im going from my galaxy s2 to the iPhone 5, I have a macbook air and a PC Gaming rig that would make a virgin geek trade in all their star trek figurines, I own both a ps3 and an xbox 360 and i plan on getting the Wii U. I dont see the point in going your whole life just ignoring the competition or belittling it because its trendy.

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QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 03:50 PM)
But it's not better. It's just user preference.

 

I've used Android, Windows Mobile and iOS. They all perform the same basic functions, and are all about looks/style/feel. Apples advantage is the 3rd party support, instant software upgrades, and a huge app library/support structure. Apple's hardware/software tends to work together a bit better than alternatives because they control both. But that said, it's strictly user preference.

 

The iPhone 5 is a capable device, as is the Samsung Galaxy SIII, etc...

 

If you hack Android, you can hack iPhones, too...if that's your game.

 

Thanks, thats what I assumed but always better to wait and see.

 

I always liked how apple products work, I just never have bought one for a variety of reasons.

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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 06:16 PM)
Thanks, thats what I assumed but always better to wait and see.

 

I always liked how apple products work, I just never have bought one for a variety of reasons.

Apple products just work. But for me the value increases by quite a bit when you have several of them so they can interop with each other. My apple TV for example does a nice job of tying everything together from a media standpoint.

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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 06:21 PM)
Apple products just work. But for me the value increases by quite a bit when you have several of them so they can interop with each other. My apple TV for example does a nice job of tying everything together from a media standpoint.

 

Careful, you'll get called a fanboi for stating your opinion based on your *actual* experiences with Apple products. I get this often, despite having actual experience on other platforms for various reasons.

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QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 06:02 PM)
It's the same.

 

It's choice.

 

Instead of being happy to have choice, they'd rather argue about why theirs is awesome, instead of actually being open minded about it and TRYING other stuff and making a decision of their own.

 

Exactly. Brand loyalty can be a real b****.

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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 06:21 PM)
Apple products just work. But for me the value increases by quite a bit when you have several of them so they can interop with each other. My apple TV for example does a nice job of tying everything together from a media standpoint.

 

I don't know how many times you've said this, but it's like Steve Jobs and now Tim Cook have hardcoded this into your brain.

 

Apple has buzz words and phrases down to a tee and it seems like the people who use Apple products just take what they see from the ads and keynotes. And you know what the worst part is? When you ask people who like Apple why they like Apple. The response is..."IT WORKS". Really? It better work for the amount of money you paid. Want to be a little more specific? You'll get answers like "It's so intuitive" and "it's so seamless". It's not like I don't own an Apple product. I do and I don't find them THAT intuitive or THAT seamless.

 

Here's a great example of something that I go through on a regular basis:

 

I want to download my daily lecture notes for a class. I go on Chrome and oh guess what, Apple's stupid anti-competition policies don't allow Chrome to download the file. No jailbreak = no downloads on Chrome. The even worse part is that even with the Chrome downloader, I can't download Powerpoint files. Okay, I'll just go on Safari. So I download the Powerpoint and guess what? I can't open it with my note taking app. Alright, fine, I'll go get an app to print it to a PDF or just use QuickOffice (yours for a $15 value) to convert it. Alright, done. BUT HOW THE HELL DO I OPEN IT IN MY NOTE TAKING APP? Oh, yeah, you have to go to iFile and find the file in the mess of folders and then you can open it up in your note taking app. And oh, you need a jailbroken iPad for iFile. I go through this process at least twice a week and it takes me a good 5 minutes to finally start taking notes. SO INTUITIVE, SO SEAMLESS. I only needed 4 applications and a jailbroken iPad to start taking notes on it like I'm supposed to. THIS SHOULD NOT HAPPEN. And it's the perfect example why a closed ecosystem like iOS can restrict a device's usability. Thank goodness for the iOS hacking community. Otherwise, my iPad would be nothing more than something I can watch baseball games on.

 

Before you ask why I don't just sync the lectures through iTunes...

1. Slides usually don't go up until an hour before class. Professors are busy/lazy.

2. Who the hell wants to sync anything through iTunes?

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QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 03:37 PM)
There won't really be any such things until the next quantum leap in cellular/battery technology comes around...which won't be for a while. They're just computers at this point, and will be incremental upgrades across the board, regardless of it being Apple, Samsung, etc...there isn't much more to do at the moment.

This was anticlimactic after all the hype. It was basically just a hardware upgrade (and it didn't even upgrade all the way to the Galaxy S III really). I was expecting Apple to come out with some brain wave-reading technology or teleporters or some s***.

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Not everything on iOS is "seamless" or "easy to use"

 

Try searching for an email you got in 2008 using the built-in email program without using the exact phrase you're searching for

Try syncing Google contacts with your Apple device...

Try updating those contacts in real-time

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QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 04:46 PM)
Uh, no, it's not dead on. It's a joke. But dead on? How about no.

Well I'm convinced now that Apple's marketing team could slap an Apple logo on the back of an Android phone and there would still be long midnight lines to buy it.

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QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 07:40 PM)
Not everything on iOS is "seamless" or "easy to use"

 

Try searching for an email you got in 2008 using the built-in email program without using the exact phrase you're searching for

Try syncing Google contacts with your Apple device...

Try updating those contacts in real-time

 

I do all of these things without a problem...

 

Seriously. What is the issue you are having exactly? Every one of the things you requested I do worked fine.

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QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 06:53 PM)
I don't know how many times you've said this, but it's like Steve Jobs and now Tim Cook have hardcoded this into your brain.

 

Apple has buzz words and phrases down to a tee and it seems like the people who use Apple products just take what they see from the ads and keynotes. And you know what the worst part is? When you ask people who like Apple why they like Apple. The response is..."IT WORKS". Really? It better work for the amount of money you paid. Want to be a little more specific? You'll get answers like "It's so intuitive" and "it's so seamless". It's not like I don't own an Apple product. I do and I don't find them THAT intuitive or THAT seamless.

 

Here's a great example of something that I go through on a regular basis:

 

I want to download my daily lecture notes for a class. I go on Chrome and oh guess what, Apple's stupid anti-competition policies don't allow Chrome to download the file. No jailbreak = no downloads on Chrome. The even worse part is that even with the Chrome downloader, I can't download Powerpoint files. Okay, I'll just go on Safari. So I download the Powerpoint and guess what? I can't open it with my note taking app. Alright, fine, I'll go get an app to print it to a PDF or just use QuickOffice (yours for a $15 value) to convert it. Alright, done. BUT HOW THE HELL DO I OPEN IT IN MY NOTE TAKING APP? Oh, yeah, you have to go to iFile and find the file in the mess of folders and then you can open it up in your note taking app. And oh, you need a jailbroken iPad for iFile. I go through this process at least twice a week and it takes me a good 5 minutes to finally start taking notes. SO INTUITIVE, SO SEAMLESS. I only needed 4 applications and a jailbroken iPad to start taking notes on it like I'm supposed to. THIS SHOULD NOT HAPPEN. And it's the perfect example why a closed ecosystem like iOS can restrict a device's usability. Thank goodness for the iOS hacking community. Otherwise, my iPad would be nothing more than something I can watch baseball games on.

 

Before you ask why I don't just sync the lectures through iTunes...

1. Slides usually don't go up until an hour before class. Professors are busy/lazy.

2. Who the hell wants to sync anything through iTunes?

 

This post makes no sense at all. Allow me to rip it to shreds now. :P

 

How could you open a Powerpoint Presentation in an app that didn't license the use of the MICROSOFT owned technology? Answer: You legally can't. So blaming Apple for this is nonsensical and silly.

 

You are talking about proprietary technologies owned by third parties. Powerpoint isn't owned by Apple, so Apple would have to license it for a note taking app to open it...and since Microsoft doesn't allow that for just any old application, they couldn't if they wanted too.

 

This has nothing to do with Apples "closed system", it has everything to do with the technology you are speaking of being owned by someone else.

 

In all seriousness...you are using the wrong device for the specific function you wish to use it with. So I ask, why would you do this? Get a Windows Mobile 7/8 phone and these issues you are having with a proprietary Microsoft own technology would go away. But b****ing because Apple devices aren't seamless at opening technologies they aren't legally allowed to open is a pretty silly example of something being nonintuitive/seamless.

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QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 08:47 PM)
I do all of these things without a problem...

 

Seriously. What is the issue you are having exactly? Every one of the things you requested I do worked fine.

Apple's stock email program sucks. But when I installed the gmail app it's flawless just like the Android app or using gmail on the computer (it's hard to convince me there is a better web-based email than gmail)

 

So let's say I go to gmail and I add Y2HH's phone number to my contacts. On my HTC Sensation, within a few seconds it will load your name and phone number to my phone (because I have that as my default contacts list, in Google's cloud). How do I get this to show on my iPad's contacts list WITHOUT hooking the f***ing thing up to iTunes? The less I have to use iTunes (for anything), the better.

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