Y2HH Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 08:19 AM) Same I use Google for a few things, namely: Chrome (not on iOS, however, I use Safari) Gmail (I have my own domain that runs email for my family on gmail servers since it's free, my email address is @.com, which is pretty cool) iGoogle (which is going away next year) YouTube Search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 08:41 AM) I use Google for a few things, namely: Chrome (not on iOS, however, I use Safari) Gmail (I have my own domain that runs email for my family on gmail servers since it's free, my email address is @.com, which is pretty cool) iGoogle (which is going away next year) YouTube Search I'm all google with work so my iphone, ipad, macair and imac are all syncing together and all are on google or google sites all day. All of my devices are "tied" together with dropbox and we collaborate internally with google drive. All of our employees are real time provisioned and deprovisioned google accounts through our own software which also allows us to have real SSO based on SAML tokens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 08:41 AM) I use Google for a few things, namely: Chrome (not on iOS, however, I use Safari) Gmail (I have my own domain that runs email for my family on gmail servers since it's free, my email address is @.com, which is pretty cool) iGoogle (which is going away next year) YouTube Search Google's "My Tracks" is nice for hiking/riding/running/etc. You can export your GPS tracks to google maps and google earth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 :lolhitting :lolhitting It's just too easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 01:39 PM) :lolhitting :lolhitting It's just too easy. You can do this with any technology. And editing makes jokes like this possible, which of course, you will ignore to get your Apple hating agenda across. It's funny, but I don't like laughing at morons like this. Edited September 13, 2012 by Y2HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 (edited) The iPhone 5 will NOT support simultaneous voice/data on Verizon or Sprints LTE networks. They can do simultaneous voice/data if WiFi is available, however. This is a confirmed design decision by Apple to not add a 2nd active radio chip to accomplish this, complicating their build process in that they'd have to build separate Verizon/Sprint versions of the phone and affecting battery life/phone design, which would add an additional radio chip instead of the single chip design they use now. This is how other manufacturers work around Verizon/Sprints CDMA network deficiency. By adding a second radio, they are able to broadcast calls over CDMA and transmit data over LTE simultaneously. AT&T accomplishes this by dropping you off their newer LTE network and down onto their 3G GSM network, which can do simultaneous voice/data, as everybody knows. From what I understand, foreign LTE networks are rolling out support simultaneous voice/data via the use of VoLTE (Voice Over LTE), a function that hasn't been rolled out into US LTE networks yet. As it stands, LTE networks are by and large data only networks, and voice is still transmitted over older 2G/3G networks. Until VoLTE is rolled out, phones that do not have multiple radio chips on CDMA carriers will not be able to do both at the same time, unless they are GSM based. So buyer beware if you were considering an iPhone 5 on Verizon or Sprint and require simultaneous voice/data. Edited September 13, 2012 by Y2HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 01:39 PM) :lolhitting :lolhitting It's just too easy. I wonder how many people realized it was a 4s.. funny they don't show that. You seriously posted a video from a late night show to prove your anti apple agenda lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 06:41 PM) The iPhone 5 will NOT support simultaneous voice/data on Verizon or Sprints LTE networks. They can do simultaneous voice/data if WiFi is available, however. This is a confirmed design decision by Apple to not add a 2nd active radio chip to accomplish this, complicating their build process in that they'd have to build separate Verizon/Sprint versions of the phone and affecting battery life/phone design, which would add an additional radio chip instead of the single chip design they use now. This is how other manufacturers work around Verizon/Sprints CDMA network deficiency. By adding a second radio, they are able to broadcast calls over CDMA and transmit data over LTE simultaneously. AT&T accomplishes this by dropping you off their newer LTE network and down onto their 3G GSM network, which can do simultaneous voice/data, as everybody knows. From what I understand, foreign LTE networks are rolling out support simultaneous voice/data via the use of VoLTE (Voice Over LTE), a function that hasn't been rolled out into US LTE networks yet. As it stands, LTE networks are by and large data only networks, and voice is still transmitted over older 2G/3G networks. Until VoLTE is rolled out, phones that do not have multiple radio chips on CDMA carriers will not be able to do both at the same time, unless they are GSM based. So buyer beware if you were considering an iPhone 5 on Verizon or Sprint and require simultaneous voice/data. Real problem is that the GSIII does have the capability on Verizon because they added an antennae. I haven't used the feature in 2 years (except on a couple of occasions where I found it too clunky to bother with anyway), but for other people, it is clear evidence that Apple is still behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 QUOTE (kev211 @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 11:32 PM) I wonder how many people realized it was a 4s.. funny they don't show that. You seriously posted a video from a late night show to prove your anti apple agenda lol I posted a video because it was funny. You people need to lighten up a bit. It won't be the last funny video mocking Apple that I post, so try not to get too butthurt next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 11:18 PM) I posted a video because it was funny. You people need to lighten up a bit. It won't be the last funny video mocking Apple that I post, so try not to get too butthurt next time. The only one that looks to be "Butt Hurt" over this subject is you. You seem completely obsessed by Apple and feel the need to crawl out of the woodwork everytime Apple releases a new product to provide the same commentary. It would be one thing if you were just a tech fanboy however you just seem to be a hater. And its a hater of a brand for the sake of the popularity of the brand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Sep 14, 2012 -> 12:05 AM) The only one that looks to be "Butt Hurt" over this subject is you. You seem completely obsessed by Apple and feel the need to crawl out of the woodwork everytime Apple releases a new product to provide the same commentary. It would be one thing if you were just a tech fanboy however you just seem to be a hater. And its a hater of a brand for the sake of the popularity of the brand. Sure gets old, doesn't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Sep 14, 2012 -> 01:05 AM) The only one that looks to be "Butt Hurt" over this subject is you. You seem completely obsessed by Apple and feel the need to crawl out of the woodwork everytime Apple releases a new product to provide the same commentary. It would be one thing if you were just a tech fanboy however you just seem to be a hater. And its a hater of a brand for the sake of the popularity of the brand. False. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 QUOTE (G&T @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 11:14 PM) Real problem is that the GSIII does have the capability on Verizon because they added an antennae. I haven't used the feature in 2 years (except on a couple of occasions where I found it too clunky to bother with anyway), but for other people, it is clear evidence that Apple is still behind. This is a bit of a misnomer that they're "behind". If they didn't choose to be behind, they wouldn't be...but they do so for design and engineering reasons which competitors and ignorant fanboys tend to ignore in their comparisons. You know what you're getting when you buy an Apple device -- a compromise between specification and design. There are many LTE phones that support simultaneous voice/data, however, adding a second radio hurts battery life/size, so it's a compromise. The issue is a CDMA deficiency that can't stream both at once, while GSM networks can. LTE will be able too, but not until the implement VoLTE. At the moment, carriers "cheat" by using LTE strictly for data, and continue to transmit voice communication over their older 2G/3G networks, and doing this requires phones to have two transmitters. When they eventually do roll out VoLTE, this won't be an issue, as the second radio/antenna wouldn't be necessary anymore. Choosing to support this means having to add extra antenna/radio into the device, making it bigger and more power hungry in the process. With the device the size of a GSIII, for example, this isn't much of an issue since they have a ton of space for massive batteries, which help cover the battery life issue. For people that REQUIRE both, they should either go with AT&T, OR a competing device on a different network, such as an Android or Windows Mobile 7/8. This is a glaring example of why having choice is good. For me, specifically, I've never used both at the same time in all the years I've had a cell phone, not even with WiFI available, which IS supported. Apple has never and will never be a 'system spec leader', not with their computers, nor with their tablets or phones. If and when they are, it tends to be short lived as they were merely first to market, IE. Retina Displays. A lot of Android/Windows users tend to compare pure system specifications when weighing their devices versus Apples, which is a fair comparison if that's all they consider important. Apple, however, has notoriously felt that a compromise between system spec/system design needs to be met, in terms of size, weight, materials used, etc. This is why Apple devices tend to feel of higher quality (because they are), and they tend to be thinner/lighter/smaller than their competition. However, the drawback to this means they won't be the fastest/newest. But let's not pretend, as consumers, that this is a secret. Also, don't confuse higher quality materials with higher durability, another thing people tend to do on purpose when trying to make a biased comparison. Want the latest greatest stuff available jammed into a box, don't buy Apple. It's that simple. Is having the latest/greatest/fastest chips and most features available the most important thing to you? At the moment, I'd recommend you buy a SGIII or a HTC One X. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 14, 2012 -> 02:19 AM) False. Your one word answer of 'false' sure showed him! All you did there was prove him right, because you had nothing else to back it up with to actually refute what he said. Do me a favor, honestly. Contribute something of worth to the technology discussion or make like a tree...and get outta' here. Seriously, I think you'd have some interesting insights into the tech world if you cared about anything other than trolling people about Apple and actually posted something about the discussions at hand that contained some substance or some legit opinions on what technologies you use and why you like them. This rabid anti Apple act is pretty tired now, since you've backed it up with next to nothing along the way. Edited September 14, 2012 by Y2HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Got mine pre-ordered. One black and one white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 QUOTE (G&T @ Sep 14, 2012 -> 07:25 AM) Got mine pre-ordered. One black and one white. What carrier did you go with? And are you jumping from Android to iOS? I thought you had a Sumsung Galaxy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 14, 2012 -> 08:03 AM) What carrier did you go with? And are you jumping from Android to iOS? I thought you had a Sumsung Galaxy? Nah, I've had the iPhone 4 for 2 years. I'm switching to Verizon so I can make use of the LTE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 QUOTE (G&T @ Sep 14, 2012 -> 08:37 AM) Nah, I've had the iPhone 4 for 2 years. I'm switching to Verizon so I can make use of the LTE. You know AT&T has LTE also, right? And Sprint's LTE network goes live next week. Of course, in comparison to Verizon's LTE network, they are years behind. I also went with Verizon after years of being a very dissatisfied AT&T customer. Verizon is also cheaper, and have better data plan options. Now that Verizon gives you unlimited minutes/texts, the rest of it doesn't matter...the one thing AT&T had going for it was rollover minutes, which are now rendered moot in light of Verizon going unlimited on voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 14, 2012 -> 08:45 AM) You know AT&T has LTE also, right? And Sprint's LTE network goes live next week. Of course, in comparison to Verizon's LTE network, they are years behind. I also went with Verizon after years of being a very dissatisfied AT&T customer. Verizon is also cheaper, and have better data plan options. Now that Verizon gives you unlimited minutes/texts, the rest of it doesn't matter...the one thing AT&T had going for it was rollover minutes, which are now rendered moot in light of Verizon going unlimited on voice. Where I live, AT&T doesn't have it and it isn't on their "coming soon" list so I switched. The rollover minutes are moot anyway because nobody talks that much. I have 3,600 rollover minutes and I think I have the smallest minutes plan. I'm hoping I can also make a call in my apartment now. AT&T was a little spotty in upstate NY but that was to be expected but it's only been worse since moving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 QUOTE (G&T @ Sep 14, 2012 -> 09:08 AM) Where I live, AT&T doesn't have it and it isn't on their "coming soon" list so I switched. The rollover minutes are moot anyway because nobody talks that much. I have 3,600 rollover minutes and I think I have the smallest minutes plan. I'm hoping I can also make a call in my apartment now. AT&T was a little spotty in upstate NY but that was to be expected but it's only been worse since moving. AT&T is spotty even when you have 5 bars of signal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 14, 2012 -> 10:16 AM) AT&T is spotty even when you have 5 bars of signal. My worst was when I didn't print a boarding pass, figuring "I'm at the Houston Airport, I'll have coverage and can just download my electronic boarding pass, this won't be anything ridiculous". Took me 15 minutes, with 5 bars/3g, to get the damn thing to finally load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 14, 2012 -> 09:21 AM) My worst was when I didn't print a boarding pass, figuring "I'm at the Houston Airport, I'll have coverage and can just download my electronic boarding pass, this won't be anything ridiculous". Took me 15 minutes, with 5 bars/3g, to get the damn thing to finally load. I've had repeated experiences like this with AT&T over the years. Coincidentally, whenever I really need my phone to work, it doesn't. Such as when I need last minute directions while driving...I'll be sure to have data problems with AT&T, etc. I've simply had enough of them. At first, I moved from Verizon to AT&T for the iPhone, and then I stayed there since it tended to be cheaper than Verizon and let you keep minutes you didn't use as rollover. Verizon is now cheaper than AT&T and have rendered rollover minutes obsolete in that Verizon now gives you unlimited voice time. I always worried about going over my minutes with Verizon, now I don't have too care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted September 14, 2012 Author Share Posted September 14, 2012 Ordered one for my stepdad, who has been mysteriously obsessing over this phone for like two months, despite really knowing nothing about cell phones. I could have probably ordered the 5 for myself and gotten the free 4 for him and he would have had no idea I held off due to some other expenses this month and an upcoming bachelor party here for my best friend. Everyone weep for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 14, 2012 -> 10:15 AM) Ordered one for my stepdad, who has been mysteriously obsessing over this phone for like two months, despite really knowing nothing about cell phones. I could have probably ordered the 5 for myself and gotten the free 4 for him and he would have had no idea I held off due to some other expenses this month and an upcoming bachelor party here for my best friend. Everyone weep for me That's an awesome sacrifice to make for someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 11:18 PM) I posted a video because it was funny. You people need to lighten up a bit. It won't be the last funny video mocking Apple that I post, so try not to get too butthurt next time. As long as you dont cry and get all butthurt when posters make fun of your love for old out of date technology. "Wah this is just like high school wah" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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