RockRaines Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 25, 2012 -> 03:24 PM) What better way to prove that a road exists or how to effectively guide someone through an area? I don't think you got the point there, they are on payroll for the map dept. Also they do mostly street view work and the stealing of data from your smart phone. And once again it is a cool feature for street view, but these cars aren't drawing maps, another company already did that for google, apple, mapquest etc. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/art...cars-stole.html Edited September 25, 2012 by RockRaines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 25, 2012 -> 04:27 PM) Who's you trust directions from? A driver who's driven to the place you're headed to an validated the route or an airline pilot who flew over the city? Both? It's not like your taking the pilots word for it, they take detailed pictures. Are you actually interested in a real discussion about this, or are you just trying to be a media bandwagon hopping 'fandroid' and dismiss a product you haven't used? Unlike most people here talking about a product they've never used and merely regurgitating what they've read elsewhere -- I have used it, extensively over the past 6 months -- as I have Google maps, on both iOS and Android (of which the Android application is 1000x better). You do realize Google maps has been wrote quite often -- and I can actually point to one right now, quite easily -- that they never bothered fixing despite the fact that I've reported it to them multiple times. Edited September 25, 2012 by Y2HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I can't believe the hysteria over this. Apple will get better at the map world, it's not good now but almost no software is really that good on the first release. If Apple is still struggling with this 2 years down the road, while blocking Google Map apps still, then I'd be concerned. Otherwise, chill the f*** out and go enjoy your own phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flippedoutpunk Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 25, 2012 -> 04:16 PM) Specifically, the black iPhone 5, because when scratched, it is silver underneath the anodized black coating, making it easy to see... Is this one of the new features? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 25, 2012 -> 04:29 PM) I don't think you got the point there, they are on payroll for the map dept. Also they do mostly street view work and the stealing of data from your smart phone. And once again it is a cool feature for street view, but these cars aren't drawing maps, another company already did that for google, apple, mapquest etc. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/art...cars-stole.html They're still data-logging while they're driving and contributing to the actual mapping, not just street view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 25, 2012 -> 04:16 PM) These "gates" are often made up or just downright stupid...like this one, and nothing more than click fodder for some ad money. Anyone that has ever owned an iPad, or Mac, or even the original iPhone has had experience with their aluminum shells. They scratch relatively easy, and they always have. Specifically, the black iPhone 5, because when scratched, it is silver underneath the anodized black coating, making it easy to see...but this has always been one of the drawbacks of aluminum cased electronics, regardless of who makes them. HTC was the first to discover this issue: http://www.connect-utb.com/2012/04/potenti...-the-htc-one-s/ Only almost nobody cared, because it was HTC, not Apple...so there was no "gate". It's also why those screen protectors were invented, if you're afraid of scratching your phone you spend the $5 on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 QUOTE (flippedoutpunk @ Sep 25, 2012 -> 04:36 PM) Is this one of the new features? Wah, wah, wahhhhh.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Sep 25, 2012 -> 04:41 PM) It's also why those screen protectors were invented, if you're afraid of scratching your phone you spend the $5 on them. The screen doesn't scratch very easily, the casing does (it's external shell, same as in the HTC example). People apparently manhandle their phones, because I've never used a case on any phone I've ever owned and it was never scratched to hell, regardless of what it was made out of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) Just to show that nobodies perfect...including the great and powerful Google... Directions from St. Germain WI to the nearby Crystal Lake as according to Google Maps... http://goo.gl/maps/IpzPL (which leads you miles and miles out of your way into the middle of a back country road, devoid of any lakes...or people) ...and the actual directions... http://goo.gl/maps/Tlmtj ...bringing you to the lake Jason Vorhees slayed, maimed, beheaded, and/or outright killed camp consolers for decades. The funniest part of this has to be that their map has the name 'Crystal Lake' written right inside of the lake, yet if you ask it for directions there, you end up in the middle of nowhere. I've sent in proper coordinates/fixes to Google a few times, they've notified me it's been fixed. It hasn't. Maybe they should send one of their minimum wage making college kids to actually drive it and they'd believe me. Edited September 25, 2012 by Y2HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Google Chrome version 22.0.1229.79 is out! Go get it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) Android users laughing at Apple maps and Apple users trying ever so hard to defend their new OS. This thread is just...bad. Y2HH does have a point though, if this was anyone else, the outrage wouldn't be there. But since Apple does have a big user-base and the issue is there for EVERYONE, of course there will be outrage. You can't boast that Apple's rich as s*** and is popular and then say that if they weren't popular this wouldn't be an issue. You can't have it both ways. Part of this is journalists trying to get views, but another part is that Apple's "it just works" motto has been affected. One of the main functions of their OS doesn't "just work" anymore. Of course people will be up in arms and it isn't a bunch of non-sense either. Edited September 25, 2012 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 That's the funny thing, it does still work, just as s***ty as the last map app. Whoever uses that functionality as deep as the complaints are going must be outside of my scope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 25, 2012 -> 05:34 PM) That's the funny thing, it does still work, just as s***ty as the last map app. Whoever uses that functionality as deep as the complaints are going must be outside of my scope. While I wouldn't go so far as to claim the previous app Apple used in iOS for mapping is "as bad" as the current version 1 attempt, it was a gimped version of the mapping app Google made for its own Android OS. Google had issues with how Apple wanted to implement their advanced APIs and began asking for additional money for every feature in Google maps, for example, you can have maps for x, but if you want streetview, the cost becomes y...turn by turn? Make that z. The writing was on the wall and Apple knew, business wise, it was painting itself into a corner, particularly troubling on that they were using a direct competitors product, and that competitor kept changing the rules of use. Apple had to get out, and most people within reason would realize that. Note that Microsoft went with Nokia for maps (obviously), but far less obviously was that Amazon did, too...and Amazon uses Android. That should tell you something about doing business with Google when it comes to maps. Edited September 25, 2012 by Y2HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I don't know, my directions so far have been pretty bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 25, 2012 -> 06:31 PM) I don't know, my directions so far have been pretty bad. ...and so far mine have been flawless. That doesn't mean they are for everyone...there are obvious mistakes, some of them glaringly shown on the internet this past week. But that also doesn't mean they're broken for everyone/every search, either. A friend of mine reported an error on the Apple maps for a place he was at earlier today, but it was the first he's run into. I have yet to personally find one...but I'm sure I will given enough time. What I'm not trying to do is defend Apple new maps app as flawless...it's not. I'm also not trying to say it's as good as Googles offering. But I am trying to be fair minded and say that the issues are overblown, because...well...they are. I see a LOT of unfair "journalism" going on here, and it bothers me. It also bothers me that it seems impossible to have a legitimate conversation between Apple users and Android users when it comes to this, with half the Apple users never having used an Android device, and visa versa (no, I'm not counting that one time you used a friends for 5 minutes, either). Edited September 25, 2012 by Y2HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 25, 2012 -> 05:34 PM) That's the funny thing, it does still work, just as s***ty as the last map app. Whoever uses that functionality as deep as the complaints are going must be outside of my scope. Ok...so one of the core functions of iOS never "just worked"? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted September 26, 2012 Author Share Posted September 26, 2012 Its a map function, people... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 I use the navigation on my phone all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 I travel for work. I use navigation more than I actually make phone calls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 25, 2012 -> 09:56 PM) Its a map function, people... Sure it's not the email client or your text messaging app, or whatever you use the most on your phone. But different people have different needs. You might not need it, others might need it all the time. Hell, my bus app for Champaign-Urbana uses Google Maps to get routes and I use that every single day. I'm not using Google Maps directly, but it's definitely used every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Im curious to see how many people complaining here about the map app have actually used it, and have had major faults with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted September 26, 2012 Author Share Posted September 26, 2012 I understand that we all use map functions...I haven't used Apple's, but I understand it is inferior to Google's at this time. But come on...I mean it is a miracle people managed to get where they wanted to go before Google Maps! And secondly, I am sure it still gives you a pretty good idea of what you're looking for...it isn't like you type in most addresses and get a map of Tokyo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 25, 2012 -> 09:56 PM) Its a map function, people... Yup, and in its infancy. Let's complain about a new app/software on it's first release!! Technology never gets better!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 25, 2012 -> 10:14 PM) I understand that we all use map functions...I haven't used Apple's, but I understand it is inferior to Google's at this time. But come on...I mean it is a miracle people managed to get where they wanted to go before Google Maps! And secondly, I am sure it still gives you a pretty good idea of what you're looking for...it isn't like you type in most addresses and get a map of Tokyo... That was my point, it will most likely cover your basic functions decently right now, and will only get better as Apple learns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted September 26, 2012 Author Share Posted September 26, 2012 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Sep 25, 2012 -> 10:16 PM) That was my point, it will most likely cover your basic functions decently right now, and will only get better as Apple learns. People are like "But it doesn't show Hot Doug's ON THE MAP! How can I USE this?!?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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