chw42 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 01:24 AM) How exactly is it a waste of a few hundred bucks. Is that the case for everyone who buys one. You said it yourself. Laptops are glorified typewriters. So why spend at least $1000 on one when you can buy one that is equally good in terms of specs, if not better, for $700 or less? Edited September 27, 2012 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 01:25 AM) I spent $1500 extra dollars for GarageBand and Final Cut Pro X in all honesty. In your case, where you were required to buy one, I'd totally understand. But for the average person looking for a laptop (AKA glorified typewriter for porn and viral videos), I don't know why you'd bother to spend the money on a Macbook unless you care a lot about aesthetics or the brand name. Asus and Samsung make equally good and equally good looking laptops (even thinner than the Macbook Air) and they usually sell them for less (since retailers actually put these Laptops on sale, unlike Macbooks). Any extra money you're paying is for Mac OS (and whatever bundled software you might need) and the Apple brand name. Edited September 27, 2012 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 01:46 AM) In your case, where you were required to buy one, I'd totally understand. But for the average person looking for a laptop (AKA glorified typewriter for porn and viral videos), I don't know why you'd bother to spend the money on a Macbook unless you care a lot about aesthetics or the brand name. Asus and Samsung make equally good and equally good looking laptops (even thinner than the Macbook Air) and they usually sell them for less (since retailers actually put these Laptops on sale, unlike Macbooks). Any extra money you're paying is for Mac OS (and whatever bundled software you might need) and the Apple brand name. I dropped my old Samsung back in April (again, f***ing seizures) and it had a dent. It ended up overheating a lot and running REALLY REALLY hot but was still bearable due to it's plastic case. That being said, I loved my Samsung. Then it just got to the point where video editing and video games would turn it off. Samsung and Toshiba are my favorite PC makers. My new Toshiba Satellite is awesome. And so are the Harmon/kardon speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 01:46 AM) In your case, where you were required to buy one, I'd totally understand. But for the average person looking for a laptop (AKA glorified typewriter for porn and viral videos), I don't know why you'd bother to spend the money on a Macbook unless you care a lot about aesthetics or the brand name. Asus and Samsung make equally good and equally good looking laptops (even thinner than the Macbook Air) and they usually sell them for less (since retailers actually put these Laptops on sale, unlike Macbooks). Any extra money you're paying is for Mac OS (and whatever bundled software you might need) and the Apple brand name. I am not required to buy an Apple. We have Apple and non-apple people at my company. I purchased a Mac purely based on its UNIX base. Before Steve Jobs was tricking people with the pretty he was at this company called NeXT. That became the basis for OSX. As a person who had administrated UNIX systems and prefers that over Windows I could go 2 routes. I could save a few hundred bucks and place Linux or BSD on my laptop and jack around trying to get little things to work ( drivers/3rd party hardware) or I could buy a Mac. OSX is an excellent operating system and it was the selling point more than the pretty. The turning point for me was when I spent 2 hours extracting firmware from my HPs built in 3G modem then compiling another program, the debugging and cleaning up the messed up code I found to flash the 3G card only to have my work destroyed a month later when I updated my kernel. That's when I ditched Linux for OSX. There are enough people who pick the os for reasons besides how it looks as an accessory. Edited September 27, 2012 by southsideirish71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flippedoutpunk Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 01:25 AM) I spent $1500 extra dollars for GarageBand and Final Cut Pro X in all honesty. God Bless your non-pirating heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 QUOTE (flippedoutpunk @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 02:27 AM) God Bless your non-pirating heart The joke was that seeing as GarageBand was included and Final Cut only set me back $100 (student discounts are awesome), they are the two programs I use that I couldn't use a PC for, so that extra $1500 was getting the Mac to be able to use them. f*** spending $1500 on two pieces of software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 26, 2012 -> 10:29 AM) Yes but that was the native google maps app in Android which has turn by turn directions. I've learned in this thread that the google app on iOS was pretty lame. same here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 01:18 AM) If they want to waste a few extra hundred bucks, it's not really my problem. Do I tell my friends to buy Macbooks when they come to me for tech advice? No. Do I give them s*** if they buy one? Yeah, usually, if they're real close friends. That's usually because I don't want them to spend the extra money when there are equally good alternatives. Lol. My iMac and MacBook has been 1000% more reliable and stable than every PC I've owned in the last 10 years. That's included dells, lenovos and hp's. Over the much longer lifetime of a Mac the extra dollars pays off in spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 You must have some crappy PC's if they're unreliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 08:28 AM) You must have some crappy PC's if they're unreliable. Not really...if you buy pre-built, like Dell, etc...they're usually fast, but designed like crap...and often the sub-components are sub-par in terms of quality. You'll get a fantastic processor/gfx card, and a crap wifi chip, system board, power supply, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 01:43 AM) You said it yourself. Laptops are glorified typewriters. So why spend at least $1000 on one when you can buy one that is equally good in terms of specs, if not better, for $700 or less? Because it's about more than system specs? Show me a 700$ laptop that's designed as well as a MacBook Air in terms of weight/speed/battery life. Good luck with that. This is the age old Apples to Non-Apples comparison, you see this leak over into most Android vs iPhone conversations, too. It's NOT all about specs. Anyone can take the latest and greatest components and jam them into a shoddily designed box, ignoring weight, etc...and covering it's super-duper performance with a 1lb battery. It's overall design that matters, and this is ALWAYS ignored by people who compare them. You will almost never get the top of the line spec with Apple...something faster/newer will no doubt exist...but what you won't get is the engineering that went into that design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 03:20 AM) The joke was that seeing as GarageBand was included and Final Cut only set me back $100 (student discounts are awesome), they are the two programs I use that I couldn't use a PC for, so that extra $1500 was getting the Mac to be able to use them. f*** spending $1500 on two pieces of software. I have no idea what you're talking about here... Are you saying you spent an additional 1500$ on Final Cut and Garage Band? That's called purchasing software. You then said: The extra money was getting the Mac to be able to use them? What does that even mean? Getting the Mac to use them? It doesn't cost anything extra to "get a mac to use software"...you're merely purchasing the software, whether it be Final Cut or Adobe's alternatives...graphics and video software is expensive regardless of who you buy it from, for the Mac or the PC. If you want a good example of jamming awesome technology into a shoddily designed box, look no further than the Droid Razr Maxx. Designed like a monstrous piece of s***, full of energy sucking chips simply because they're "new" but immature...and covered up with a massive 3300mah battery in order to make it look like it has great battery life... At least Samsung understands that big can still be beautiful -- and efficient -- look at the SIII, for example. Edited September 27, 2012 by Y2HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 ^this is why it's funny to see Apple fail occasionally, the view that they're just the best^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 09:10 AM) ^this is why it's funny to see Apple fail occasionally, the view that they're just the best^ Being the best in some peoples opinions dones't make them "the best" in everyones. And being the best also doesn't mean system components won't fail from time to time, or that software won't be buggy. Even though flaws exist, something can still be considered "the best". You have an odd way of looking at things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 09:12 AM) Being the best in some peoples opinions dones't make them "the best" in everyones. And being the best also doesn't mean system components won't fail from time to time, or that software won't be buggy. Even though flaws exist, something can still be considered "the best". You have an odd way of looking at things. That's because it just happens to be the way that suits his argument in regards to Apple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 08:28 AM) You must have some crappy PC's if they're unreliable. My last two companies also did studies on overall investment between the PC contracts they had (one was Dell one was Lenovo) and users generally speaking cost less when they provisioned them with a mac. Most corp PC's we distributed had to have so much software placed on it for security and management that the cost was similar at the end of the day and the Dell's in particular had a very high fail rate especially in hard drives. These are not crappy best buy PC's either, these are heavily discounted corporate PC's. The lenovo's I liked although they were extremely slow in booting up and the battery sucked, the Dell's were terrible. D600, 540, 620, 680, all pieces of crap. We ended up going to a heavy cloud-federation model with macbook air's and pro's in favor of Dell's and have never looked back. We currently have only one user still on a Dell. I know PC users will come on and say NO WAY, they are so awesome. My experience is with these two brands and HP in general and they have been terrible. I also think my macbook air is the greatest computer a traveling person like myself can ever use. I have no experience with samsungs etc, but I DO love their TV's. Edited September 27, 2012 by RockRaines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Anyone with a tablet - the Pulse News App is f***ing awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 11:19 AM) Anyone with a tablet - the Pulse News App is f***ing awesome. Downloading now. Also saw a special on a Samsung galaxy at Costco, may go pick that baby up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 11:19 AM) Anyone with a tablet - the Pulse News App is f***ing awesome. Flipboard is better...cause it's purdier. Edited September 27, 2012 by Y2HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 11:33 AM) Flipboard is better...cause it's purdier. It cant' be purdier than Pulse News. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 12:17 PM) It cant' be purdier than Pulse News. Well...it is...by far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 12:26 PM) Well...it is...by far. I prefer Pulse's custom pages and better news deliverability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 And Rally Credes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 01:55 AM) I had to buy one for the Journalism school. I feel like I go undercover the second I whip out my PC it's like Armageddon. It's strongly recommended I buy one for Journalism school, but I've been able to get by on my PC, despite our classrooms being cluttered with Macs, and our teachers teaching us on Macs, and using Mac servers. Totally worth it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 QUOTE (flippedoutpunk @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 03:27 AM) God Bless your non-pirating heart Heh, that's what I was thinking. I have the whole Adobe CS3 suite and Sony Vegas (although an old version) pirating on my computer, among other things. Those two programs right there cost over $2000 I believe. Trying to get Vegas 11 right now, but it's been a real b**** getting it to work though. Having trouble patching files over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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