Jake Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 sorry if repost, but this could settle everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Oct 23, 2012 -> 06:30 PM) I don't know if I call that being a horrible consumer. To someone who has an iPad 3 or the original new iPad, it doesn't make sense to make the jump to the newer new iPad. Now if you're choosing between the iPad 3 and iPad 4 and you have neither, then you should buy the iPad 4 and that would make you a horrible consumer. And the Galaxy Note II > iPad Mini. I wasn't really referring to his point about the difference between iPads. Earlier in his post, he basically said that you should get what fits for you and not care about the specs. I feel like almost every consumer needs to be educated on what the hell they're buying, all the way down to the internals. Many won't understand and that's just too bad. We're talking about a pretty big investment whenever we buy a new tablet, phone, or PC. And you never know what you will run into with whatever piece of technology you own. How do I know I won't be doing video processing on my PC in 1 or 2 years? How do I know I won't be doing CAD or SolidWorks in the future? How do I know I won't be playing intense games in the future? I don't want to have to buy something new just for these things in the future. I'd rather invest in something better right now. Anyways, my initial post was about how bad the iPad Mini and Nexus 7 comparison was. Apple decided to say bigger screen = better, even though it had a lower resolution and both screens pretty much showed the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (chw42 @ Oct 24, 2012 -> 10:49 AM) I wasn't really referring to his point about the difference between iPads. Earlier in his post, he basically said that you should get what fits for you and not care about the specs. I feel like almost every consumer needs to be educated on what the hell they're buying, all the way down to the internals. Many won't understand and that's just too bad. We're talking about a pretty big investment whenever we buy a new tablet, phone, or PC. And you never know what you will run into with whatever piece of technology you own. How do I know I won't be doing video processing on my PC in 1 or 2 years? How do I know I won't be doing CAD or SolidWorks in the future? How do I know I won't be playing intense games in the future? I don't want to have to buy something new just for these things in the future. I'd rather invest in something better right now. Anyways, my initial post was about how bad the iPad Mini and Nexus 7 comparison was. Apple decided to say bigger screen = better, even though it had a lower resolution and both screens pretty much showed the same thing. What you are talking about is the Best Buy sales mentality. Here Grandma and Grandpa, I know you need to surf the net and write emails to your grandkids but just in case you want to run a Hadoop cluster in your house you should buy this silly balls to the wall hardware that you probably are never going to use in the first place. You look at major operating system releases as the cornerstone of how to size most consumer environments. What is the recommended hardware ( not minimum ) + whatever main line office they are running and bump it a bit. What is the nature of how I am going to primarily use the device. Sure you dont know what your requirements are going to be, but in reality most consumers are not going to start changing their processing requirements. Gamers and other high end users usually police themselves and select hardware already based on their requirements and then some. I remember sitting in a DC with Compaq Proliant 7ks years ago. They were 4 way boxes and had a silly amount of RAM. The application however ran like a pig. So when we took a look we saw only one of the processors being pegged. It was a small section of 16 bit code that was in this 32bit software package. It couldnt run at the time on an SMP box. So in the end, buying all of that hardware did us bunk, when we needed to have the manufacturer fix their crappy software. its more of the same today. There are some well written apps that run just fine on hardware. There are some crappy apps that run crappy no matter what OS or hardware you throw it on. Some of these apps attempt to point at hardware as a solution to fix their bad programming processes. In the end for the normal consumer you make a decent selection at the time based on standards and you should be good. Edited October 24, 2012 by southsideirish71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 A few times I have noticed my iPhone 5 not catching my at home wifi automatically and I have to go select it in settings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Brian @ Oct 24, 2012 -> 04:42 PM) A few times I have noticed my iPhone 5 not catching my at home wifi automatically and I have to go select it in settings. There is a known wifi bug in ios 6, slated to be fixed in ios 6.0.1. That said, the wifi bug is a pretty major oversight, because they changed something from 5 to 6 in the wifi code base, as devices that were working fine started having similar issues after updating. IMO, Apple has started making some major rush to market gaffes as of late, whether this has to do with new leadership or not I have no idea. Wasn't a fan of the minor spec bump of the iPad or the iPad mini running on 2 year old hardware. Then again the mini has a specific target audience I don't fall in, but the resolution was underwhelming IMO. I disliked reading on non retina displays. Edited October 24, 2012 by Y2HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 I want one of those surface tablets. They look awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 QUOTE (kev211 @ Oct 27, 2012 -> 09:46 PM) I want one of those surface tablets. They look awesome. Yeah, if I was ever to get a tablet, it would probably be that one. Now only is that an awesome design, it uses that sleak Zune HD interface, which is the best music interface I've ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 24, 2012 -> 05:49 PM) IMO, Apple has started making some major rush to market gaffes as of late, whether this has to do with new leadership or not I have no idea. ^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Oct 28, 2012 -> 03:20 AM) Yeah, if I was ever to get a tablet, it would probably be that one. Now only is that an awesome design, it uses that sleak Zune HD interface, which is the best music interface I've ever seen. Just go get an Windows 8 laptop then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 QUOTE (chw42 @ Oct 28, 2012 -> 12:50 PM) Just go get an Windows 8 laptop then. I mean, if I wanted to do that, I'd just upgrade my current laptop to Windows 8 for much cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Oct 28, 2012 -> 02:36 PM) I mean, if I wanted to do that, I'd just upgrade my current laptop to Windows 8 for much cheaper. New higher-end Windows 8 laptops have touch screens. Some of them are convertible. So tablet and notebook in one. I'd much rather get that than pay extra for the MS Surface. The x86 version of the Surface will cost around $800. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 anyone get windows 8? care to give a review? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 does anyone have any laptop recommendations my screen recently blew out and thus I'm looking for a new computer. I am Not really looking for an apple so mainly looking for pc ideas. not really sure what I need, mid range dells seem good enough, alienware seem overkill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Oct 30, 2012 -> 10:45 PM) does anyone have any laptop recommendations my screen recently blew out and thus I'm looking for a new computer. I am Not really looking for an apple so mainly looking for pc ideas. not really sure what I need, mid range dells seem good enough, alienware seem overkill I love my Dell Studio 15, and if you know anyone with an .edu account that can use (or if you have one), then you can save an extra few hundred dollars. I got my $1300 laptop for $900 through Dell's student discount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Oct 28, 2012 -> 02:53 PM) anyone get windows 8? care to give a review? It would be a great upgrade for those using XP. W8 uses less system resources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 right now leaning towards. the inspiron 17Se mid level model for the 2gb nvidia graphics card. probably will pass on 3d screen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Oct 31, 2012 -> 01:03 AM) right now leaning towards. the inspiron 17Se mid level model for the 2gb nvidia graphics card. probably will pass on 3d screen Amount of memory is not indicative of actual video card performance. What's the model? Edited October 31, 2012 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Was using my phone so couldnt grab the specs well: 3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-3630QM (6MB cache, up to 3.4Ghz) Windows 8, 64-bit, English 17.3" Full High Definition (1080p) LED Display with Anti-Glare 8GB3 Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz 1TB 5400RPM SATA HDD + 32GB mSATA SSD w/ Intel Smart Response 8X Tray Load CD/DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-R Drive) NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M GDDR5 2GB 90 days Premium Phone Support + 1 Year In-Home Service after Remote Diagnosis 7.23 lbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandy125 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Oct 31, 2012 -> 01:03 AM) right now leaning towards. the inspiron 17Se mid level model for the 2gb nvidia graphics card. probably will pass on 3d screen I'm looking at laptops myself, but am personally holding off because it looks like the market is about to be flooded with Windows 8 laptops. Based upon my initial impressions of Windows 8, I'd want something with a touch screen. It just seems so much more slick using swipes than a mouse. I'm waiting for a tablet/laptop hybrid that comes with Windows 8 and runs on the AMD Hondo chip or Intel's clover trail chip. My initial reading on them say that the tablet alone on those will get 10+ hours of battery life. A lot of these are also set up to allow the keyboard charge up the tablet when you attach it, which could extend the battery life another 3-5 hours. Edited October 31, 2012 by vandy125 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 For this laptop Id probably not care about touch screen. That would be something that Id consider if I was going to get a laptop/tablet to bring around. This one is just for moving around my house and being able to play games watch things, which is why Im leaning towards the 17 inch screen and the 1080p model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Well I got it. For what I want it seems perfect, I know it may be slightly bulky not amazingly pretty, but I want function over style. The specs should be good enough for what I want to do, I cant see myself being involved in mmorpg guild raids in the future, but who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 A bit late, but good luck with Dell, unless they've improved drastically in the past few years I would never buy one again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Oct 31, 2012 -> 02:21 PM) A bit late, but good luck with Dell, unless they've improved drastically in the past few years I would never buy one again. Here's where someone with access to YouTube would link to a Debbie Downer SNL skit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 I love dell. I was more interested in the spec information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Oct 28, 2012 -> 02:53 PM) anyone get windows 8? care to give a review? Too busy or lazy to upgrade. You can always download a preview version, fire up VM Player or VirtualBox and try it for yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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