Y2HH Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 19, 2013 -> 11:33 AM) I got 3 and a half hours of screen time yesterday and the phone died at around 12:30 while I was watching Netflix. Overall, it lasted around 21 hours. Some of that was on standby (since I'm not up 24/7), but it was technically running for that long. And I have serious OCD when it comes to my homescreen. I've made custom clocks in UCCW that are far more useful (shows weather, battery percentage, etc.). But I didn't see them as good enough, so I don't use them. Nothing really wrong with the clock, but just takes up too much space for my liking. Even on my iPhone, I cannot stand people who have more than a single screen of icons, and if you couldn't guess, I have a single screen, along with a few folders. I hate clutter. I don't like installing or keeping apps I don't use. Anything I "like" but never use...deleted. I like everything being easy to launch/read, find, etc, without having to search for it, or page through endless screens of icons. So, your serious OCD is probably on par with mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Friend of mine just found a HUGE security flaw in Facebook, and got paid 12,000$ for it, they're issuing a press release this weekend. Apparently, there was a hidden feature somewhere within the depth of options for importing/exporting VCF files, which are vCards, and if you took anybody's information, including people you didn't know or have access too, it would accept that information, and spit out everything it had on that person, from business names, phone numbers, email addresses, including emails or phones you may have removed. So, for example, if I knew one of your email addresses, and uploaded it via that method, it would accept it and spit back everything you had on your acct, alternate emails, names, phone numbers, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jun 20, 2013 -> 08:31 AM) Friend of mine just found a HUGE security flaw in Facebook, and got paid 12,000$ for it, they're issuing a press release this weekend. Apparently, there was a hidden feature somewhere within the depth of options for importing/exporting VCF files, which are vCards, and if you took anybody's information, including people you didn't know or have access too, it would accept that information, and spit out everything it had on that person, from business names, phone numbers, email addresses, including emails or phones you may have removed. So, for example, if I knew one of your email addresses, and uploaded it via that method, it would accept it and spit back everything you had on your acct, alternate emails, names, phone numbers, etc. Seems worth more than $12k to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 20, 2013 -> 08:56 AM) Seems worth more than $12k to me. He doesn't work for them...so I guess that's their finders fee. Google has similar cash rewards for finding backdoors/bugs in their software, as do most... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jun 20, 2013 -> 10:00 AM) He doesn't work for them...so I guess that's their finders fee. Google has similar cash rewards for finding backdoors/bugs in their software, as do most... Microsoft is offering $100k http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/6/19/44455...ty-100k-rewards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ Jun 20, 2013 -> 12:26 PM) Microsoft is offering $100k http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/6/19/44455...ty-100k-rewards Not for just any security flaw they're not...they're offering "up too" that for "truly novel exploitation techniques", whatever that means...which probably means, nobody's getting it. They usually offer like 1k to 20k or so depending on the size of the hole, how hard it was to find, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/20/samsung...android-slider/ Samsung is making a 13 inch tablet that runs Windows 8 Pro AND Android 4.2.2. Very interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 20, 2013 -> 07:32 PM) http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/20/samsung...android-slider/ Samsung is making a 13 inch tablet that runs Windows 8 Pro AND Android 4.2.2. Very interesting. Best of both worlds, sounds awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jun 20, 2013 -> 07:56 PM) Best of both worlds, sounds awesome. It's extremely interesting in the sense that you don't need to boot out of Windows to run Android. I don't think it's emulating Android in Windows either, this is an actual Android OS running along with Windows 8 and you can get inter-OS interaction. For instance, you can place a shortcut to an Android app on your Windows start screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 20, 2013 -> 06:32 PM) http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/20/samsung...android-slider/ Samsung is making a 13 inch tablet that runs Windows 8 Pro AND Android 4.2.2. Very interesting. ASUS announced a similar concept last week 11.6" 1920x1080 detachable tablet/monitor. Tablet portion boasts a 2GHz Intel Atom processor and 64 GB SSD and runs Android 4.2. Connect to keyboard/dock and you now have an i7 processor, 750GB-1TB hard drive space, and you can run Windows 8 desktop and drastically boost battery life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 20, 2013 -> 11:56 PM) ASUS announced a similar concept last week 11.6" 1920x1080 detachable tablet/monitor. Tablet portion boasts a 2GHz Intel Atom processor and 64 GB SSD and runs Android 4.2. Connect to keyboard/dock and you now have an i7 processor, 750GB-1TB hard drive space, and you can run Windows 8 desktop and drastically boost battery life. i7 in a keyboard? That's badass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 21, 2013 -> 12:15 AM) i7 in a keyboard? That's badass. Processors sure have continued to come a long way, haven't they? Some of this stuff is absolutely amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 21, 2013 -> 12:15 AM) i7 in a keyboard? That's badass. QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jun 21, 2013 -> 07:40 AM) Processors sure have continued to come a long way, haven't they? Some of this stuff is absolutely amazing. Depending on price point and a few other things, I could see something like this being my next laptop/not laptop/thingy. That won't be for a while though, so it'll be neat to see what people come up with as things move along. I definitely think that this is where things are headed, though, and this is where you can see Windows 8 not being a horrible idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 21, 2013 -> 10:53 AM) Depending on price point and a few other things, I could see something like this being my next laptop/not laptop/thingy. That won't be for a while though, so it'll be neat to see what people come up with as things move along. I definitely think that this is where things are headed, though, and this is where you can see Windows 8 not being a horrible idea. Windows 8 is a fine idea on touch devices...the issue is they forced it onto non-touch devices, and it frustrated people. It's a horrible interface for a mouse/keyboard, while it's a great interface for touch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 And it doesnt make sense that they couldnt just make the desktop look like/work like old desktop with start button etc. and still have the tiles/touchscreen stuff too. Even on a regular computer the tiles arent the worst, especially if you use a few programs constantly. Its just annoying to switch to desktop and try and find things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jun 21, 2013 -> 11:07 AM) And it doesnt make sense that they couldnt just make the desktop look like/work like old desktop with start button etc. and still have the tiles/touchscreen stuff too. Even on a regular computer the tiles arent the worst, especially if you use a few programs constantly. Its just annoying to switch to desktop and try and find things. I agree. I think we're moving towards all desktops being touch screens, for better or for worse -- at least on the Microsoft side. Apple hasn't hinted at wanting these hybridized devices or making their desktop OS suitable for touch screens AFAIK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 21, 2013 -> 11:43 AM) I agree. I think we're moving towards all desktops being touch screens, for better or for worse -- at least on the Microsoft side. Apple hasn't hinted at wanting these hybridized devices or making their desktop OS suitable for touch screens AFAIK. Apple did this hybrid OS mind meld before Microsoft did it, but Apple didn't force you to use their new interface called Launchpad (which is more suitable to touch/looks like an iOS launcher/desktop), where Microsoft did exactly that. I think a lot more people would have noticed if OSX suddenly defaulted to Launchpad instead of their standard UI. And it would have been equally annoying. Microsoft realizes they've messed up on older desktops/non-touch, which is why in Windows 8.1, the start bar returns. Edited June 21, 2013 by Y2HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jun 21, 2013 -> 12:12 PM) Apple did this hybrid OS mind meld before Microsoft did it, but Apple didn't force you to use their new interface called Launchpad (which is more suitable to touch/looks like an iOS launcher/desktop), where Microsoft did exactly that. I think a lot more people would have noticed if OSX suddenly defaulted to Launchpad instead of their standard UI. And it would have been equally annoying. Microsoft realizes they've messed up on older desktops/non-touch, which is why in Windows 8.1, the start bar returns. Please tell me you haven't defended Apple forever and now complaining about Microsoft forcing you to do something their way. They have to push Windows 8 on non touch to gain more market share as they try to expand 1 OS for all devices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Jun 21, 2013 -> 02:05 PM) Please tell me you haven't defended Apple forever and now complaining about Microsoft forcing you to do something their way. They have to push Windows 8 on non touch to gain more market share as they try to expand 1 OS for all devices. I don't blame them for making Windows 8 and moving toward a touch interface...I do, however, blame them for prematurely trying to convert people that weren't using touch based devices. It was a terrible implementation for non touch, and all they had to do was give users the simple option of defaulting to a start bar to rectify it. There is nothing to defend here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jun 21, 2013 -> 02:19 PM) I don't blame them for making Windows 8 and moving toward a touch interface...I do, however, blame them for prematurely trying to convert people that weren't using touch based devices. It was a terrible implementation for non touch, and all they had to do was give users the simple option of defaulting to a start bar to rectify it. There is nothing to defend here. I definitely agree that implementation was bad and the lack of education was worse. Ive actually avoided buying a new laptop because of 8. I'm not going to pay a premium for a touchscreen and some of the programs I use don't play nice with the OS just yet. When the price comes down on the hybrids I'll jump in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jun 21, 2013 -> 11:04 AM) Windows 8 is a fine idea on touch devices...the issue is they forced it onto non-touch devices, and it frustrated people. It's a horrible interface for a mouse/keyboard, while it's a great interface for touch. You just need the right mouse. I don't mind it too much on my non-touch screen laptop. I got a made-for-Windows 8 mouse that take me to the start screen when I click the middle button and it does some other useful actions that you can configure. But I agree, the implementation was bad to say the least. Edited June 22, 2013 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 20, 2013 -> 06:32 PM) http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/20/samsung...android-slider/ Samsung is making a 13 inch tablet that runs Windows 8 Pro AND Android 4.2.2. Very interesting. So they're making a laptop that runs slower and is less responsive than a laptop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 22, 2013 -> 05:01 PM) So they're making a laptop that runs slower and is less responsive than a laptop. Windows 8 has very few apps. Android has a lot more. That's why they're doing this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 What's the deal with Google TV? Odd that this sort of thing isn't being promoted. Sucks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Got the HTC one yesterday. Looks beautiful. Let me know if anyone finds fun shut to do with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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