Y2HH Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 01:27 PM) They give the pricing yet? I'm sure the 18k gold ones are pretty expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted September 9, 2014 Author Share Posted September 9, 2014 i want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Will be $349 sometime in early 2015. From the sound of it, it might not last more than just a day. They haven't said anything definitive about battery life, but have talked about charging at night as if it will be a nightly ritual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Oh, and it is not called "iWatch" - it will be Apple Watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 01:43 PM) Will be $349 sometime in early 2015. From the sound of it, it might not last more than just a day. They haven't said anything definitive about battery life, but have talked about charging at night as if it will be a nightly ritual Based on how they didn't mention battery life, I'm betting it lasts about 8 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 01:18 PM) I'm making the switch. iPhone 6 Plus, here I come! Steve or anyone else, I already know I'm upgrading this fall, can someone sell me on the benefits of the "plus" sized phone as compared to the smaller one? I'm several years behind on the model I currently have so either size will be an increase for me. What types of things do people use the plus sized one for? Are we simply talking about movies/TV streaming or what else can be done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 01:52 PM) Steve or anyone else, I already know I'm upgrading this fall, can someone sell me on the benefits of the "plus" sized phone as compared to the smaller one? It has a bigger screen. EDIT: That's literally it on my end. I'll have to play with both, but I see no reason I wouldn't want the bigger screen. Also, that likely means a bigger battery and definitely more storage. Edited September 9, 2014 by Steve9347 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 02:54 PM) It has a bigger screen. EDIT: That's literally it on my end. I'll have to play with both, but I see no reason I wouldn't want the bigger screen. Also, that likely means a bigger battery and definitely more storage. I can give myself reasons why I wouldn't want it. Took me a while to get used to the current level of pocket space. Would be even harder to use at the gym. Extra money. That said, if it made doing something like working on an airplane easier, I might consider it. I haven't bought an iPad yet because I haven't reached a point where that was worth it, but I know I'm upgrading phones this fall, so that's my debate. Anybody else have a feels on this? If I could pile up benefits to the larger screen maybe I could make the case to myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 02:01 PM) I can give myself reasons why I wouldn't want it. Took me a while to get used to the current level of pocket space. Would be even harder to use at the gym. Extra money. That said, if it made doing something like working on an airplane easier, I might consider it. I haven't bought an iPad yet because I haven't reached a point where that was worth it, but I know I'm upgrading phones this fall, so that's my debate. Anybody else have a feels on this? If I could pile up benefits to the larger screen maybe I could make the case to myself. I do. I've long been kind of anti super huge phone, for the same reasons you stated, but as of now you can either go somewhat big, or phablet big, otherwise you'll end up with older hardware like the iPhone 5s, or an older Samsung or HTC...it would appear now you're choice is between big and very big... If you go very big, I guess the advantage is you now don't need a tablet, and if you go big, you'll save some space... I'm kind of in the same boat as you on this... :/ I'm not a big person, so these big phones are kind of a lot for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted September 9, 2014 Author Share Posted September 9, 2014 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 12:04 PM) I do. I've long been kind of anti super huge phone, for the same reasons you stated, but as of now you can either go somewhat big, or phablet big, otherwise you'll end up with older hardware like the iPhone 5s, or an older Samsung or HTC...it would appear now you're choice is between big and very big... If you go very big, I guess the advantage is you now don't need a tablet, and if you go big, you'll save some space... I'm kind of in the same boat as you on this... :/ I'm not a big person, so these big phones are kind of a lot for me. Yeah, I'll just get the smallest current iPhone they make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 02:04 PM) I do. I've long been kind of anti super huge phone, for the same reasons you stated, but as of now you can either go somewhat big, or phablet big, otherwise you'll end up with older hardware like the iPhone 5s, or an older Samsung or HTC...it would appear now you're choice is between big and very big... If you go very big, I guess the advantage is you now don't need a tablet, and if you go big, you'll save some space... I'm kind of in the same boat as you on this... :/ I'm not a big person, so these big phones are kind of a lot for me. The never-ending waves of new phones kill me. The 5s isn't even a year old yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted September 9, 2014 Author Share Posted September 9, 2014 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 12:06 PM) The never-ending waves of new phones kill me. The 5s isn't even a year old yet. Yeah, it's like this with everything these days...you should see the golf industry....companies release a new driver every 3 months. It is absolutely ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 02:07 PM) Yeah, it's like this with everything these days...you should see the golf industry....companies release a new driver every 3 months. It is absolutely ridiculous. My grandpa's clubs from the 70's (?) are just fine for my once-every-three-years game of golf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 A 5.5" phone is no replacement for a tablet. With that said, larger phones will increase the demand for smart watches - the watch will seem more and more useful as the phones become unwieldy. One thing I do think is essentially true is this: there is a fight going on between phones, tablets, and laptops. Two can win, but one must lose. I'm not sure which it will be. Will our main computers become very tablet-like (Surface Pro) with larger phones, with no dedicated tablets? Will our phones get big and we stick with conventional laptops for heavier tasks, with no tablets? Will phones get enormous, essentially becoming tablets, while we leave the heavy tasks to laptops? Do we find tablets acceptable for computer tasks and ditch computers as we currently know them entirely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 01:54 PM) It has a bigger screen. EDIT: That's literally it on my end. I'll have to play with both, but I see no reason I wouldn't want the bigger screen. Also, that likely means a bigger battery and definitely more storage. I've got the Note 3 and the bigger screen is awesome. There's literally no downside. It fits in jean/work pockets just fine. You can use it with one hand unless you have freakish carny hands. If you're wearing tight pants, well, stop, and also put it in your jacket pocket or a bag. My wife was hesitant at first but now she loves it. Bigger is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 02:16 PM) A 5.5" phone is no replacement for a tablet. With that said, larger phones will increase the demand for smart watches - the watch will seem more and more useful as the phones become unwieldy. No way. Smart watches are going to die in 2 years. They're just an extra screen, that's it. They have no practical functionality. One thing I do think is essentially true is this: there is a fight going on between phones, tablets, and laptops. Two can win, but one must lose. I'm not sure which it will be. Will our main computers become very tablet-like (Surface Pro) with larger phones, with no dedicated tablets? Will our phones get big and we stick with conventional laptops for heavier tasks, with no tablets? Will phones get enormous, essentially becoming tablets, while we leave the heavy tasks to laptops? Do we find tablets acceptable for computer tasks and ditch computers as we currently know them entirely? I think the laptop "loses" but there's still going to be a big business market out there for them. Most people will have a phone and a tablet for random internet use. The laptop is still important because of the keyboard. I don't see that going away anytime soon. Not until voice/thought recognition exists to a near perfect degree. Edited September 9, 2014 by Jenksismybitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted September 9, 2014 Author Share Posted September 9, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 12:16 PM) A 5.5" phone is no replacement for a tablet. With that said, larger phones will increase the demand for smart watches - the watch will seem more and more useful as the phones become unwieldy. One thing I do think is essentially true is this: there is a fight going on between phones, tablets, and laptops. Two can win, but one must lose. I'm not sure which it will be. Will our main computers become very tablet-like (Surface Pro) with larger phones, with no dedicated tablets? Will our phones get big and we stick with conventional laptops for heavier tasks, with no tablets? Will phones get enormous, essentially becoming tablets, while we leave the heavy tasks to laptops? Do we find tablets acceptable for computer tasks and ditch computers as we currently know them entirely? Why must one lose? Redundancy? If that becomes the case, than it will eventually be laptops that lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted September 9, 2014 Author Share Posted September 9, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 12:18 PM) I've got the Note 3 and the bigger screen is awesome. There's literally no downside. It fits in jean/work pockets just fine. You can use it with one hand unless you have freakish carny hands. If you're wearing tight pants, well, stop, and also put it in your jacket pocket or a bag. My wife was hesitant at first but now she loves it. Bigger is better. Honestly, when I am at home, at work or traveling, I almost always have both. And when I don't have both, such as when I am just out and about, I have little interest in doing anything with my phone that that a larger screen would add a significant advantage for. Edited September 9, 2014 by iamshack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 02:22 PM) Honestly, when I am at work or traveling, I almost always have both. And when I don't have both, such as when I am just out and about, I have little interest in doing anything with my phone that that a larger screen would add a significant advantage for. Even something as simple as reading an email is better on a bigger screen. Typing is 10000000000000000000000 times better on a bigger screen. If it cost more money I could see the argument against it, but when they're the same price there's zero debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted September 9, 2014 Author Share Posted September 9, 2014 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 12:24 PM) Even something as simple as reading an email is better on a bigger screen. Typing is 10000000000000000000000 times better on a bigger screen. If it cost more money I could see the argument against it, but when they're the same price there's zero debate. I don't really read a whole lot of emails when I am out and about. Texts, yes, emails, no. I think the argument against is still mobility/convenience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 02:28 PM) I don't really read a whole lot of emails when I am out and about. Texts, yes, emails, no. I think the argument against is still mobility/convenience. It's not the problem people think it is. You just have to try it out I guess to believe me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 (edited) I'm very disappointed with the design of the Apple Watch. When you put it next to a Moto 360, it just doesn't compare. Hell, put it next to an LG G Watch and I'd probably like the look of the G Watch better. The dial on the side, the cheap looking finish, they just don't do it for me. Putting a nicer band on it might alleviate some of that, but the watch-face alone looks cheap and uninspired. Battery life is also likely to be poor, which is surprising for an Apple product. My friend mentioned this earlier today: Apple is great at iterating on its products, but their very first products (albeit flashy) aren't great. Edited September 9, 2014 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 02:18 PM) I've got the Note 3 and the bigger screen is awesome. There's literally no downside. It fits in jean/work pockets just fine. You can use it with one hand unless you have freakish carny hands. If you're wearing tight pants, well, stop, and also put it in your jacket pocket or a bag. My wife was hesitant at first but now she loves it. Bigger is better. Women actually like the huge phones since they just put them in their purse anyhow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 9, 2014 -> 02:16 PM) A 5.5" phone is no replacement for a tablet. With that said, larger phones will increase the demand for smart watches - the watch will seem more and more useful as the phones become unwieldy. One thing I do think is essentially true is this: there is a fight going on between phones, tablets, and laptops. Two can win, but one must lose. I'm not sure which it will be. Will our main computers become very tablet-like (Surface Pro) with larger phones, with no dedicated tablets? Will our phones get big and we stick with conventional laptops for heavier tasks, with no tablets? Will phones get enormous, essentially becoming tablets, while we leave the heavy tasks to laptops? Do we find tablets acceptable for computer tasks and ditch computers as we currently know them entirely? I don't even use my personal laptop anymore. I only use it when I have to reconfigure my router...lol. When I travel, I just use my tablet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 IMO, the future of the laptop looks a lot like the MS Surface Pro 3. It would raise an interesting semantic question as to whether that means tablets or laptops "won." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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