Balta1701 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 10, 2011 -> 02:27 PM) Year over year they were up, not quarterly. I got it from their annual report. Again, still incorrect. The year over year sales in Q2 were down, the total year sales were down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 10, 2011 -> 01:15 PM) You can thank Apple for making sure that won't ever happen since they decided to use proprietary connectors for their devices. Most Android devices use standard connectors like micro or mini USB. But if they are developing a standard, I just wish they would try and tap into something that could work with ipod connectors. Or some company dedicated to those could make something that could be added on. It would make everything so much easier. Consequently it would also move me off the iphone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 10, 2011 -> 01:30 PM) But if they are developing a standard, I just wish they would try and tap into something that could work with ipod connectors. Or some company dedicated to those could make something that could be added on. It would make everything so much easier. Consequently it would also move me off the iphone. I don't disagree with you but how can they do it when the key player here, Apple, has a proprietary connector? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 10, 2011 -> 01:31 PM) I don't disagree with you but how can they do it when the key player here, Apple, has a proprietary connector? There has to be someone who can do it. The apple connector somehow translates into a usb connection so there has to be some standardization in there somewhere. I envision a connector on amazon for $1 that could snap onto an existing iphone or ipod connector and the output would be the new standard docking connector on android devices. If someone could figure it out it would be big bucks. Over 70 percent of new cars have this connector built in already, imagine that marketplace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 10, 2011 -> 01:34 PM) There has to be someone who can do it. The apple connector somehow translates into a usb connection so there has to be some standardization in there somewhere. I envision a connector on amazon for $1 that could snap onto an existing iphone or ipod connector and the output would be the new standard docking connector on android devices. If someone could figure it out it would be big bucks. Over 70 percent of new cars have this connector built in already, imagine that marketplace. Wouldn't it be pretty cheap for cars to put in a USB connector too? Or just bluetooth connectivity to music files? But yea, you would think somebody would come out with some type of cheap connector for Ipod accessories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ May 10, 2011 -> 02:56 PM) Wouldn't it be pretty cheap for cars to put in a USB connector too? Or just bluetooth connectivity to music files? But yea, you would think somebody would come out with some type of cheap connector for Ipod accessories. I'm sure the reason why no one has is that Apple won't let them for intellectual property reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ May 10, 2011 -> 01:56 PM) Wouldn't it be pretty cheap for cars to put in a USB connector too? Or just bluetooth connectivity to music files? Those are both pretty common. I travel frequently for work and most new cars have those options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ May 10, 2011 -> 01:56 PM) Wouldn't it be pretty cheap for cars to put in a USB connector too? Or just bluetooth connectivity to music files? But yea, you would think somebody would come out with some type of cheap connector for Ipod accessories. Apple would sue them into non-existence unless they pay a hefty licensing fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 10, 2011 -> 01:58 PM) Those are both pretty common. I travel frequently for work and most new cars have those options. Even for music from your phone (for bluetooth)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ May 10, 2011 -> 02:01 PM) Apple would sue them into non-existence unless they pay a hefty licensing fee. For accessories? All your doing is making a product that enhances another one, I don't believe you need license rights for that (Im no expert though). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ May 10, 2011 -> 02:02 PM) Even for music from your phone (for bluetooth)? Honestly I've never even tried doing that. Maybe someone else can chime in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (bigruss22 @ May 10, 2011 -> 02:04 PM) For accessories? All your doing is making a product that enhances another one, I don't believe you need license rights for that (Im no expert though). If you are creating a device that connects to the iPod/iPhone/iPad proprietary 30-pin docking port, you have to pay a licensing fee. Edited May 10, 2011 by Athomeboy_2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 don't most cars have an aux input now? that seems pretty universal to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (bmags @ May 10, 2011 -> 02:10 PM) don't most cars have an aux input now? that seems pretty universal to me Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ May 10, 2011 -> 02:02 PM) Even for music from your phone (for bluetooth)? Yes, but currently the quality blows. Its almost tape-like. My jeep came with two usb connectors but for some reason the only music player it can work with is an ipod. Of course the better option is to take a usb thumb drive and load music onto the hard drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 10, 2011 -> 02:35 PM) Yes, but currently the quality blows. Its almost tape-like. My jeep came with two usb connectors but for some reason the only music player it can work with is an ipod. Of course the better option is to take a usb thumb drive and load music onto the hard drive. You would think that especially with the development of the Amazon Cloud Music and Google Music that car manufacturers will be all over making sure that it's a feature in new cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ May 10, 2011 -> 02:37 PM) You would think that especially with the development of the Amazon Cloud Music and Google Music that car manufacturers will be all over making sure that it's a feature in new cars. If Pandora could be an embedded ap within a car stereo system, I honestly wouldnt listen to my ipod or much radio at all. I think thats the next phase of car entertainment since we already have internet in our cars. They are going to have an android-like operating system and you will be able to download apps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 10, 2011 -> 02:38 PM) If Pandora could be an embedded ap within a car stereo system, I honestly wouldnt listen to my ipod or much radio at all. I think thats the next phase of car entertainment since we already have internet in our cars. They are going to have an android-like operating system and you will be able to download apps. Saab already has this in the works if not already implemented. EDIT Edited May 10, 2011 by BigSqwert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 10, 2011 -> 02:38 PM) If Pandora could be an embedded ap within a car stereo system, I honestly wouldnt listen to my ipod or much radio at all. I think thats the next phase of car entertainment since we already have internet in our cars. They are going to have an android-like operating system and you will be able to download apps. Would that be an extension of the data plan from a person's phone/tablet, or would one have another additional internet fee to pay do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 considering that the music industry is not approving of google music or amazon cloud music is the biggest obstacle for cars implementing that. Hopefully spotify gets the legalities done soon and becomes partners with google/amazon/apple music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 1 - Pandora-enabled stereo and navigation units This method requires the purchase of a car stereo or navigation unit that supports Pandora-specific controls. All of the currently available systems that support full integration with car stereo controls still require a smartphone to handle the actual music streaming. However, with these systems your car stereo will provide direct access to Pandora features-- you won't have to touch your smartphone to control the music. For more information about Pandora these systems, please click the appropriate link: BMW Ford Mercedes-Benz MINI Alpine Pioneer VIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ May 10, 2011 -> 02:43 PM) Would that be an extension of the data plan from a person's phone/tablet, or would one have another additional internet fee to pay do you think? The internet in may car I believe is part of my sirius subscription. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (bmags @ May 10, 2011 -> 02:45 PM) considering that the music industry is not approving of google music or amazon cloud music is the biggest obstacle for cars implementing that. Hopefully spotify gets the legalities done soon and becomes partners with google/amazon/apple music. That's another thing I don't get, if someone downloads an album, or buys the CD, don't they have legal rights to listen to that music for free from and source they may have? Whether it's a computer, mp3 player, cd player, whatever, they should be able to play that for free after purchasing it. Im not sure on the details but I believe a coworker was saying the music industry is or is trying to charge an extra fee for those hosting music on a cloud client. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ May 10, 2011 -> 08:49 PM) That's another thing I don't get, if someone downloads an album, or buys the CD, don't they have legal rights to listen to that music for free from and source they may have? Whether it's a computer, mp3 player, cd player, whatever, they should be able to play that for free after purchasing it. Im not sure on the details but I believe a coworker was saying the music industry is or is trying to charge an extra fee for those hosting music on a cloud client. I believe it's due to the fact that you could share access to that storage to anyone and they consider that a form of piracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I'm glad my after-market stereo has an AUX and USB port, as well as bluetooth. I'm pretty much covered w/ my Zune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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