bmags Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 bigsqwert, you can save what's on your ipod, i forgot how to do it now but i did it freshman year when i kept losing my ipod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 14, 2010 -> 04:12 AM) False, Im in the technical field, I dont buy PC's from fliers. I've had 3 corporate procure Dell laptops that havent been able to stand up to the rigors of the media work that I do mostly because of the inherent security weaknesses of windows. Not only is the Mac OS 100 times more stable than Windows, but the Mac hardware is superior also. I know you are a hater of all things Apple because thats your stance on computers, but I'm not some noob who apparently buys crap because I have no idea what I'm doing. I'll tell you what, next time you log into your online banking portal, take a minute to thank me for enhancing the security and your user experience, because there is an 80 percent chance that I am responsible for it. You know, I tell people this all the time. For YEARS I hated Apple and everything about them. I grew up a Commodore kid, and eventually used the Amiga 500, 1200, 3000, etc...talk about a multitasking machine before anyone else knew what REAL multitasking was. In the mid 00's, I got fed up with Microsoft and their trash operating system and started looking for alternatives, Linux, etc...I finally bit the bullet when my friend who works at Apple got me an iMAC for 25% off (he still does this for me when I want stuff), and I have to say, OSX or Windows -- it's the BEST PC I've ever owned. And I'd venture to say I've owned more PC's and alternatives to PC's than almost anyone on this board. There is a chance that some of you actually helped pay for a few of them, too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Mar 16, 2010 -> 10:10 AM) You know, I tell people this all the time. For YEARS I hated Apple and everything about them. I grew up a Commodore kid, and eventually used the Amiga 500, 1200, 3000, etc...talk about a multitasking machine before anyone else knew what REAL multitasking was. In the mid 00's, I got fed up with Microsoft and their trash operating system and started looking for alternatives, Linux, etc...I finally bit the bullet when my friend who works at Apple got me an iMAC for 25% off (he still does this for me when I want stuff), and I have to say, OSX or Windows -- it's the BEST PC I've ever owned. And I'd venture to say I've owned more PC's and alternatives to PC's than almost anyone on this board. There is a chance that some of you actually helped pay for a few of them, too... Agreed in the sense in going from PC only to Mac. The only problem I have with Mac is playing games on them, most of them dont have the right type of hardware for them or I believe they arent compatible (I could totally be wrong on this, but I dont own a Mac computer). I used to think all Mac owners had to much money and had little computer knowledge so they bought into the fad of Macs. Wrong. They have such great software that overpowers PCs anyday of the week. My next computer/laptop will most likely be Mac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I have to say Apple is growing on me. I hated them when we had Macs in school. I hated them when my friends had the Powerbooks. I still say those were crap, but the Macbooks are good and getting better. From a quality perspective, I've had several issues with my Macbook Pro. I have had the keyboard, power cord, one of the fans and the light for the monitor replaced under the warranty, I had to buy a new battery and I had to reinstall the OS twice because so many things stopped working right. Given all the problems I've had that I never had with my old Dell, OSX is really growing on me. Most of my original complaint was with the lack of software that worked with OSX and the constant spinning wheel of death I saw my friends have. Both problems are much improved in the last few years and I'm not sure what my next computer will be. Snow Leopard is really nice and a lot more software (everything but games it seems) is making a Mac version. I'm not sure what exactly the message is here. I like the Mac more than I thought I would (I had to get it for school), but I've had a lot of problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I am trying to transfer to Ball State, but I am really disappointed that I have to use Macs in the telecommunications dept. I will just have to swallow that pill I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 pssh, i've had my powerbook for 5 years with no problems. NO PROBLEMS. I've dropped the thing off of a loft onto a wooden chair. The thing is amazing. It's outlasted all of my friends PCs and only not outlasted the other friends who have powerbooks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 One of the criticisms of the iPad is that it lacks a removable battery, which can be a headache if the iPad's battery dies. But while Apple won't help you replace the battery, it will replace the entire iPad (for a fee). The Associated Press explains, Apple Inc.'s iPhone and iPad both have sealed-in batteries that owners can't replace themselves. As it does with the iPhone, Apple says it will give people whose iPads have a "diminished ability to hold an electrical charge" an entire new unit. The service will cost $99 plus $6.95 in shipping charges. While you will be getting a new (or refurbished) iPad, you won't be getting your data (songs, contacts, photos, etc) on the new machine. Apple explains: Will the data on my iPad be preserved? No. You will receive a replacement iPad that will not contain any of your personal data. Before you submit your iPad for service, it is important to sync your iPad with iTunes to back up your contacts, calendars, email account settings, bookmarks, apps, etc. Apple is not responsible for the loss of information when servicing your iPad. As Engadget notes, Apple's approach to battery problems on the iPad is different from its stance on iPhones, which Apple agrees to service, rather than replace. Read the full text of Apple's iPad battery replacement policy here. LINK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Mar 17, 2010 -> 02:38 AM) I am trying to transfer to Ball State, but I am really disappointed that I have to use Macs in the telecommunications dept. I will just have to swallow that pill I guess. Considering that tons of Infrastructure and Security people use Macs I don't see what the issue is. A good portion of the 3rd level engineers at Cisco and Juniper are sporting Macs these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Mar 17, 2010 -> 10:00 AM) Considering that tons of Infrastructure and Security people use Macs I don't see what the issue is. A good portion of the 3rd level engineers at Cisco and Juniper are sporting Macs these days. Windows people tend to hate OSX until they use it and realize they can do everything Windows can do but more, since it's UNIX. The only advantage Windows has at this point is games...and that's it. And most of us, not be 14 anymore, don't really care about games...since most of the more popular games these days are coming out for the MAC anyway. Or, you can dual boot if you really care that much. But for general business use, I love my mac... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Mar 17, 2010 -> 10:10 AM) Windows people tend to hate OSX until they use it and realize they can do everything Windows can do but more, since it's UNIX. The only advantage Windows has at this point is games...and that's it. And most of us, not be 14 anymore, don't really care about games...since most of the more popular games these days are coming out for the MAC anyway. Or, you can dual boot if you really care that much. But for general business use, I love my mac... As an avid, 28 year old gamer, I take offense to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted March 17, 2010 Author Share Posted March 17, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Mar 17, 2010 -> 09:30 AM) LINK Is this deja vu, or did we talk about this the other day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 17, 2010 -> 10:56 AM) As an avid, 28 year old gamer, I take offense to this. I like games, but I only play WoW these days, and there is a osx client for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 WSJ is going to be $17.99 per MONTH on the Ipad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Mar 26, 2010 -> 07:16 AM) WSJ is going to be $17.99 per MONTH on the Ipad. WSJ has always been expensive...just a regular web subscription was expensive. I don't remember what I was paying yearly, but it was quite a bit...I canceled quite a while ago, so I assume from that time, it could have only gotten more expensive. Some of these print media organizations need to wake up and realize that while some people may be willing to pay a fee, they won't pay something excessive like 17.99$ a month unless they're got obvious money to burn. That's just a ridiculous price for news you can get just about anywhere else for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Mar 26, 2010 -> 08:40 AM) WSJ has always been expensive...just a regular web subscription was expensive. I don't remember what I was paying yearly, but it was quite a bit...I canceled quite a while ago, so I assume from that time, it could have only gotten more expensive. Some of these print media organizations need to wake up and realize that while some people may be willing to pay a fee, they won't pay something excessive like 17.99$ a month unless they're got obvious money to burn. That's just a ridiculous price for news you can get just about anywhere else for free. You have to remember who the WSJ is marketing too...they're probably expecting that the people who would buy that subscription are either people heavily involved in politics or people heavily involved in finance. In a lot of cases they can probably call it a business expense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted March 26, 2010 Author Share Posted March 26, 2010 Apple finally just charged me for my iPad yesterday, even though I ordered it on March 12. I took that to mean they finally realized they could guarantee shipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDylan Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Mar 17, 2010 -> 10:10 AM) most of the more popular games these days are coming out for the MAC anyway. Or, you can dual boot if you really care that much. The first part isn't true. The second part... just not worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (BobDylan @ Mar 26, 2010 -> 12:33 PM) The first part isn't true. The second part... just not worth it. Um, yes it is true. Steam for the MAC is coming in May, it's almost out of beta now, and the entire Steam catalog is being ported. More and more games are coming out all the time, since porting games is easy now, since it uses the same hardware. And dual booting for windows only games is a completely viable option. Edited March 26, 2010 by Y2HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BobDylan Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Y2HH @ Mar 26, 2010 -> 12:36 PM) Um, yes it is true. Steam for the MAC is coming in May, it's almost out of beta now, and the entire Steam catalog is being ported. Link me, because everything I've read says that Valve games will be ported, not the entire catalog. QUOTE (Y2HH @ Mar 26, 2010 -> 12:36 PM) More and more games are coming out all the time, since porting games is easy now, since it uses the same hardware. How many ports have you played? Especially recently, as in the past 5 years. They're generally a lesser product than the original. QUOTE (Y2HH @ Mar 26, 2010 -> 12:36 PM) And dual booting for windows only games is a completely viable option. A more viable option than buying a cheaper PC, not having to put down a few extra bucks for an "on-top" OS, and an already robust gaming catalogue? What I said still stands. Gaming on the Mac isn't on the same planet as on Windows. Whatever major releases Mac gets, they're two-three years after release, if even ever, and the number of those releases are so few to begin with. To top it off, you can forget about any 360/Windows developed games ever coming to the Mac. Steam support for Mac is a huge step forward as far as gaming goes on that platform, but this isn't some 'overnight challenge' that puts them right in the game. Valve only makes so many games. The question is whether or not they'll get the other games made by other developers. But hell, at least they're starting somewhere. Edited March 26, 2010 by BobDylan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (BobDylan @ Mar 26, 2010 -> 01:01 PM) Link me, because everything I've read says that Valve games will be ported, not the entire catalog. How many ports have you played? Especially recently, as in the past 5 years. They're generally a lesser product than the original. A more viable option than buying a cheaper PC, not having to put down a few extra bucks for an "on-top" OS, and an already robust gaming catalogue? What I said still stands. Gaming on the Mac isn't on the same planet as on Windows. Whatever major releases Mac gets, they're two-three years after release, if even ever, and the number of those releases are so few to begin with. To top it off, you can forget about any 360/Windows developed games ever coming to the Mac. Steam support for Mac is a huge step forward as far as gaming goes on that platform, but this isn't some 'overnight challenge' that puts them right in the game. Valve only makes so many games. The question is whether or not they'll get the other games made by other developers. But hell, at least they're starting somewhere. First and foremost, PC gaming is slowing -- more and more game makers are going straight to console and skipping PC's altogether. So while the number of games coming out for the PC is diminishing, it's still far greater than the Mac. I never said everything that comes out of the PC comes out for the Mac in an OSX native client. But as of late, it's becoming more common for the Mac to have a native client available. Diablo 3 is coming out for the Mac at the same time as the PC. World of Warcraft did also. My point is and was, more games are coming out for the Mac now than ever before...and in the case you really insist on playing a game that is Windows only, you can boot Windows and play it. Gaming on a Mac is possible one way or another. And people who play a lot of games probably don't care about the cost of a computer...since gaming is pretty damn expensive considering the cost of most new games is 50+$. You said the Mac isnt a viable platform, you are wrong. Because it can run OSX and Windows. A Mac can be either kind of computer, a PC...or a Mac. Therefore, there are NO games your PC can play that my Mac cannot. Edited March 26, 2010 by Y2HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 QUOTE (BobDylan @ Mar 26, 2010 -> 01:01 PM) A more viable option than buying a cheaper PC, not having to put down a few extra bucks for an "on-top" OS, and an already robust gaming catalogue? This is incorrect. A Mac does not run windows as an "on top" os, it runs it native. You don't even need to have OSX installed on a Mac, you can wipe it and install any flavor of Windows and run it as a PC on Mac hardware. Some people aren't interested in a "cheaper" PC...they want what they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 as far as i'm concerned bobd can post anything with that sig and i won't say he's wrong. Cause it's sooooo right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDylan Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Y2HH @ Mar 26, 2010 -> 01:18 PM) First and foremost, PC gaming is slowing -- more and more game makers are going straight to console and skipping PC's altogether. So while the number of games coming out for the PC is diminishing, it's still far greater than the Mac. I never said everything that comes out of the PC comes out for the Mac in an OSX native client. But as of late, it's becoming more common for the Mac to have a native client available. Diablo 3 is coming out for the Mac at the same time as the PC. World of Warcraft did also. My point is and was, more games are coming out for the Mac now than ever before...and in the case you really insist on playing a game that is Windows only, you can boot Windows and play it. Gaming on a Mac is possible one way or another. And people who play a lot of games probably don't care about the cost of a computer...since gaming is pretty damn expensive considering the cost of most new games is 50+$. You said the Mac isnt a viable platform, you are wrong. Because it can run OSX and Windows. A Mac can be either kind of computer, a PC...or a Mac. Therefore, there are NO games your PC can play that my Mac cannot. 2 games? I'm impressed. People who do play games care about cost, by the way. Most of the gamers I know and play with are poor as s***. The PC I game on, it's custom built by myself and cost $400 with a gaming keyboard and mouse. The monitor was an extra $250. And yes, I'm fully aware that console gaming is taking turf away from PC gaming. I game on both. But PC gaming is far from dead, nor is it dying. People have been saying that for years and years now. MMO's and RTS games just don't work on the console as of now. Go with your IT talk all you want, you'll run circles around me. But when it comes to video games, stay outta my house! Edited March 26, 2010 by BobDylan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDylan Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 26, 2010 -> 01:25 PM) as far as i'm concerned bobd can post anything with that sig and i won't say he's wrong. Cause it's sooooo right. If we ever cross paths, I'm buying you a beer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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