Technology catch-all thread

[Kyyle23]

If we ever cross paths, I'm buying you a beer.

 

hey I told you i liked bouncy boobs a long time ago! where is my beer?

[Y2HH]

2 games? I'm impressed.

 

People who do play games care about cost, by the way. Most of the gamers I know and play with are poor as s***. The PC I game on, it's custom built by myself and cost $400 with a gaming keyboard and mouse. The monitor was an extra $250. And yes, I'm fully aware that console gaming is taking turf away from PC gaming. I game on both. But PC gaming is far from dead, nor is it dying. People have been saying that for years and years now. MMO's and RTS games just don't work on the console as of now.

 

Go with your IT talk all you want, you'll run circles around me. But when it comes to video games, stay outta my house!

 

I don't think so.

 

I've been gaming since the 80's, I still game now. The only console I don't own is a PS3, but I keep thinking of getting one, just don't cuz I dislike sony. Hell, I have a mass collection of Mame roms. You are no more of a gamer than I am. Consider my hiatus temporary due to playing WoW.

 

I have 3 PC's, a Commodore Amiga 500, an Amiga 1200, a Commodore 64 and 2 Macs, plus my consoles.

 

I've been on Xbox live since Beta.

 

Been to Quakecon.

 

Been to Blizzcon.

 

Competed at cons, even. Still have my Quake 3 jersey.

 

Trust me, I'm a gamer.

Edited March 26, 2010 by Y2HH

[BobDylan]

I don't think so.

 

I've been gaming since the 80's, I still game now. The only console I don't own is a PS3, but I keep thinking of getting one, just don't cuz I dislike sony. Hell, I have a mass collection of Mame roms. You are no more of a gamer than I am. Consider my hiatus temporary due to playing WoW.

 

I have 3 PC's, a Commodore Amiga 500, an Amiga 1200, a Commodore 64 and 2 Macs, plus my consoles.

 

I've been on Xbox live since Beta.

 

Been to Quakecon.

 

Been to Blizzcon.

 

Competed at cons, even. Still have my Quake 3 jersey.

 

Trust me, I'm a gamer.

 

Who cares? Get of your high horse and quit throwing around your IT cards and such and lets get back to the point. Mac gaming isn't half as good as it is on the PC. It won't be for years, if ever. Just admit it and stop spewing garbage about how Mac gets all the big releases when the fact is that it doesn't.

 

Enjoy your Mac, I don't give a rats ass. But put your fanboy cap aside for a second and quit telling people to buy Boot Camp for gaming because, frankly, it's a ridiculously expensive option to buy a Mac and the software. If it truly were the sliced bread you're making it out to be, you'd see more PC gamers do it. But 99% of them don't, and it goes beyond the operating system why they don't.

 

Oh, and Quake 3 is from 1999. Give me a f***ing break.

Edited March 26, 2010 by BobDylan

[BobDylan]

hey I told you i liked bouncy boobs a long time ago! where is my beer?

 

You and I will have a bottle of scotch together. I'm back in Chicago by the way, PM me.

[Balta1701]

First warning to keep it civil.

[bmags]

who buys software anymore? It's 2010.

[Controlled Chaos]

as far as i'm concerned bobd can post anything with that sig and i won't say he's wrong. Cause it's sooooo right.

I don't game and I've never been in this thread before. I came in here just because I saw bobd post and I wanted to watch his sig. There's just something about that chick.

[Y2HH]

Who cares? Get of your high horse and quit throwing around your IT cards and such and lets get back to the point. Mac gaming isn't half as good as it is on the PC. It won't be for years, if ever. Just admit it and stop spewing garbage about how Mac gets all the big releases when the fact is that it doesn't.

 

Enjoy your Mac, I don't give a rats ass. But put your fanboy cap aside for a second and quit telling people to buy Boot Camp for gaming because, frankly, it's a ridiculously expensive option to buy a Mac and the software. If it truly were the sliced bread you're making it out to be, you'd see more PC gamers do it. But 99% of them don't, and it goes beyond the operating system why they don't.

 

Oh, and Quake 3 is from 1999. Give me a f***ing break.

 

Buy bootcamp for gaming? Bootcamp is for Apple noobs that don't know dick about PC's and how they work. It's nothing more than a collection of drivers and an assistant to help people load Windows on a separate partition.

 

You need no such thing to boot windows on a Mac.

 

And I'm not on a high horse -- you tried to compare your "gaming prowess" to mine, not knowing how long I've gamed, or anything about how much I game. That was you, and you got owned in the process. I believe it was you that said stick to IT, because when it comes to gaming, to stay outta your house? Of course, you then got mad when you found out I already live in that kinda house, only it's quite a bit bigger, at which point you told me I was the one riding a high horse. Ironic.

 

I'm not arguing that OSX is on par with Windows as a pure gaming platform in terms of sheer availably, but I am arguing it's just as viable now, and making/porting games is no issue anymore since the hardware is the same, the graphics cards are the same, one is simply GL vs DX, and porting DX to GL isn't very hard anymore, aside from the games that use PHYSX, which is like...one or two?

 

A Mac without OSX is just a PC, plain and simple.

 

It's akin to a PC running Ubuntu instead of Windows. Just because Ubuntu is installed on it doesn't mean you can't install Windows or dual boot to Windows.

 

I installed Win7x64 on my Mac a few weeks ago...booting up and selecting boot from CD to install was really hard.

 

And fanbois don't own multiple PC's, they own nothing but one companies products, something I would never do. But since you started slinging the fanboi mantra, it's you that's the PC Windows fanboi, since it's all you use/know.

Edited March 26, 2010 by Y2HH

[BobDylan]

And I'm not on a high horse -- you tried to compare your "gaming prowess" to mine, not knowing how long I've gamed, or anything about how much I game. That was you, and you got owned in the process. I believe it was you that said stick to IT, because when it comes to gaming, to stay outta your house? Of course, you then got mad when you found out I already live in that kinda house, only it's quite a bit bigger, at which point you told me I was the one riding a high horse. Ironic.

 

No, no. I pulled you off your high horse when you pulled the IT card to gain credibility when you said that Mac's are right in line with PC's in gaming (you claimed that Mac's are getting all the new releases). I told you that just isn't true, and then you came back with false information about Steam. I again told you that you were incorrect and then where you should have said, "Oh, I guess I was wrong," you went back on your high horse and listed your gaming resume, as if anyone here cared.

 

I'll write it as simply as I can. I'm not comparing Mac hardware to PC hardware. I'm not comparing Windows software to Mac software. I'm comparing the Windows gaming library to the Mac gaming library, and that's what I've been doing from the start. If you want to call me an idiot because I assumed you were talking about boot camp, but weren't, fine, I don't care. That doesn't hide the fact that you're a pathetic fanboy giving people false information about Mac gaming and hiding behind your resume because you were flat out WRONG when I called you out on this here topic.

 

I'll say it again. Get the f*** outta my house, your too old for next generation gaming, grandpa.

Edited March 26, 2010 by BobDylan

[iamshack]

Enough. You both took shots at each other after Balta warned you.

 

 

[BigSqwert]

Can we at least not ban that sig?

[BobDylan]

Enough. You both took shots at each other after Balta warned you.

 

Ban me. I don't care. I'm going to keep taking shots at him as long as he keeps coming back. He's an arse that's just trying to defer the topic and hide behind random and pointless computer facts. The funny thing is, I don't care what he says. His argument is wrong, but even that's beside what I'm saying here. I just feel like being an asshole to him because, frankly, he deserves it. So, ban me. I could not care less.

[Y2HH]

No, no. I pulled you off your high horse when you pulled the IT card to gain credibility when you said that Mac's are right in line with PC's in gaming (you claimed that Mac's are getting all the new releases). I told you that just isn't true, and then you came back with false information about Steam. I again told you that you were incorrect and then where you should have said, "Oh, I guess I was wrong," you went back on your high horse and listed your gaming resume, as if anyone here cared.

 

I'll write it as simply as I can. I'm not comparing Mac hardware to PC hardware. I'm not comparing Windows software to Mac software. I'm comparing the Windows gaming library to the Mac gaming library, and that's what I've been doing from the start. If you want to call me an idiot because I assumed you were talking about boot camp, but weren't, fine, I don't care. That doesn't hide the fact that you're a pathetic fanboy giving people false information about Mac gaming and hiding behind your resume because you were flat out WRONG when I called you out on this here topic.

 

I'll say it again. Get the f*** outta my house, your too old for next generation gaming, grandpa.

 

Ahh, the young, inconsiderate useless generation that think they're all that.

 

What I said about Steam IS correct...the entire Steam catalog is coming to the Mac. That doesn't mean every company that sells games on Steam is coming to the Mac, but it does in fact mean that every game Steam owns WILL be...to say that's false information means you are once again, misinformed, or assuming I meant something I never meant.

 

The Windows games library *is* bigger than the Mac's, I never disputed that...EVER. Hell, it's not what we were arguing about. I was arguing about the viability of the OSX platform for gaming, and today, it's just as viable as that of the Windows PC...that's not a point of contention, it's a fact based purely on hardware (both the same).

 

That "house" you live in is tiny...maybe you need to get out more.

[Y2HH]

Ban me. I don't care. I'm going to keep taking shots at him as long as he keeps coming back. He's an arse that's just trying to defer the topic and hide behind random and pointless computer facts. The funny thing is, I don't care what he says. His argument is wrong, but even that's beside what I'm saying here. I just feel like being an asshole to him because, frankly, he deserves it. So, ban me. I could not care less.

 

Hahaha, it's about time someone around here isn't a p****. At least I can respect that. I feel the same way. We're both big boys and don't need someone interfering. I'm not taking this personally. We have a difference of opinion and are arguing about it...I don't see what's wrong with that.

[BobDylan]

Ahh, the young, inconsiderate useless generation that think they're all that.

 

What I said about Steam IS correct...the entire Steam catalog is coming to the Mac. That doesn't mean every company that sells games on Steam is coming to the Mac, but it does in fact mean that every game Steam owns WILL be...to say that's false information means you are once again, misinformed, or assuming I meant something I never meant.

 

The Windows games library *is* bigger than the Mac's, I never disputed that...EVER. Hell, it's not what we were arguing about. I was arguing about the viability of the OSX platform for gaming, and today, it's just as viable as that of the Windows PC...that's not a point of contention, it's a fact based purely on hardware (both the same).

 

That "house" you live in is tiny...maybe you need to get out more.

 

The entire Steam catalogue is not coming to the Mac. Are you thick? Do you know how many copyright infringements that is? If they tried that, it might be the biggest copyright infringment in history - there would be thousands upon thousands of them. Steam is a distrubutor, they don't make games and they never will. Steam is owned by Valve, a developer that does make games. Therefore, the amount of games that are listed to be ported, as of now, is incredibly small because the only listed games are made by Valve. About the only up to date title Mac gamers will get is Left 4 Dead 2, and that's by Valve. But games like Modern Warfare 2? Mass Effect 2 and 3? Ghost Recon: Future Soldiers? Crysis 2? Fallout 3? Fat f***ing chance those will ever play on OSX.

 

You're right that Mac hardware can play Windows games (for anyone who doesn't know, the Mac software cannot). I'm not disputing that and I never was. I'm picking at you because you made a claim that the Mac catalogue is, or is going to be on par with the Windows catalogue soon. It's not going to be. That's bad information and if anyone believed it, you owe them an apology, especially so since you prefaced it with your IT background.

 

Go plug in your Amiga 500 and leave the rest of us alone. You don't game anymore, therefore you aren't a gamer just the same way as if you quit IT in 1999 and were trying to tell another IT guy that started working 5 years ago 'how it is.' Just shut the f*** up.

[Y2HH]

The entire Steam catalogue is not coming to the Mac. Are you thick? Do you know how many copyright infringements that is? If they tried that, it might be the biggest copyright infringment in history - there would be thousands upon thousands of them. Steam is a distrubutor, they don't make games and they never will. Steam is owned by Valve, a developer that does make games. Therefore, the amount of games that are listed to be ported, as of now, is incredibly small because the only listed games are made by Valve. About the only up to date title Mac gamers will get is Left 4 Dead 2, and that's by Valve. But games like Modern Warfare 2? Mass Effect 2 and 3? Ghost Recon: Future Soldiers? Crysis 2? Fallout 3? Fat f***ing chance those will ever play on OSX.

 

You're right that Mac hardware can play Windows games (for anyone who doesn't know, the Mac software cannot). I'm not disputing that and I never was. I'm picking at you because you made a claim that the Mac catalogue is, or is going to be on par with the Windows catalogue soon. It's not going to be. That's bad information and if anyone believed it, you owe them an apology, especially so since you prefaced it with your IT background.

 

Go plug in your Amiga 500 and leave the rest of us alone. You don't game anymore, therefore you aren't a gamer just the same way as if you quit IT in 1999 and were trying to tell another IT guy that started working 5 years ago 'how it is.' Just shut the f*** up.

 

No no no no no...

 

You've misunderstood me.

 

I don't mean the entire steam catalog of games -- I mean the entire catalog of games that the makers of steam itself owns.

 

Ok, I get this now -- I can admit when I'm wrong, and I led you to believe I was saying something I wasn't. I shouldn't have been saying the steam catalog -- I meant Valves games. Sorry about that. I f***ed that up and I admit I f***ed that up.

 

And I sure as hell do game still...I'm just taking time off playing many different games because I'm playing WoW still.

 

And hey, I'm all about personal, but you're taking it a little far even for me. As much as I'd like to respond and keep it personal, I won't, this over the boundary of unnecessary now.

Edited March 26, 2010 by Y2HH

[Y2HH]

Also, I never meant to imply the mac catalog of games would catch up to the windows catalog -- that's not happening for the foreseeable future, probably not ever. However, my point was more games are coming out for the mac now than ever before. Game developers ARE beginning to take the mac more seriously and creating/porting to the mac HAS become so much easier they're actually doing it now. In years past this was simply an impossibility for many reasons, most of which no longer apply.

 

I never intended to imply otherwise. I'm not an idiot when it comes to the world of computers.

Edited March 26, 2010 by Y2HH

[BobDylan]

No no no no no...

 

You've misunderstood me.

 

I don't mean the entire steam catalog of games -- I mean the entire catalog of games that the makers of steam itself owns.

 

Ok, I get this now -- I can admit when I'm wrong, and I led you to believe I was saying something I wasn't. I shouldn't have been saying the steam catalog -- I meant Valves games. Sorry about that. I f***ed that up and I admit I f***ed that up.

 

And I sure as hell do game still...I'm just taking time off playing many different games because I'm playing WoW still.

 

And hey, I'm all about personal, but you're taking it a little far even for me. As much as I'd like to respond and keep it personal, I won't, this over the boundary of unnecessary now.

 

I'm only doing this because I'm having fun doing it. I didn't think I went too far, or, at least, I didn't list my home address and challenge you to a fight and call you a fatass.

 

But I'll take the gloves off with ya, and if you ever want to get 'pwnd' by a young'n online, let me know when and where.

[Y2HH]

I'm only doing this because I'm having fun doing it. I didn't think I went too far, or, at least, I didn't list my home address and challenge you to a fight and call you a fatass.

 

But I'll take the gloves off with ya, and if you ever want to get 'pwnd' by a young'n online, let me know when and where.

 

You didn't get *too* personal for me, but I guess we both kinda went too far for what they like around here. I'm already on their watch list, so I didn't need to keep this going in a personal direction...and when the shots are going back and fourth, I can't help myself...I kinda have to respond. Years of s*** talking on Xboxlive and WoW will do that to ya. There is no stopping once it starts. But since I realized what you were talking about via me saying the steam catalog (when I didn't quite mean that), it was time to stop returning personal fire.

 

And I'm not a fatass. Ur a fatass.

 

Unless you play WoW, I can't challenge you at least not yet -- I haven't played an xbox game since fable 2 last year...things been collecting dust since.

 

Edit, and I'm not THAT old. I was in the single digits in the 80's...at least for part of it.

Edited March 26, 2010 by Y2HH

[iamshack]

Get back to talking about my iPad please.

[Y2HH]

Get back to talking about my iPad please.

 

Can I has?

 

I see they added like 30,000 free books from that project (some good titles, too, some nice classics), which is a pretty nice thing for a starter library for some books people might otherwise not even bother to read these days.

 

I like what I see of the iPAD, my issue with it isn't price, it's the lack if video on the front and back (mostly front) for video conferencing. I think that should have been a requirement and it's the reason I'm not getting one. I was quite disappointed in that.

Edited March 27, 2010 by Y2HH

[BobDylan]

You didn't get *too* personal for me, but I guess we both kinda went too far for what they like around here. I'm already on their watch list, so I didn't need to keep this going in a personal direction...and when the shots are going back and fourth, I can't help myself...I kinda have to respond. Years of s*** talking on Xboxlive and WoW will do that to ya. There is no stopping once it starts. But since I realized what you were talking about via me saying the steam catalog (when I didn't quite mean that), it was time to stop returning personal fire.

 

And I'm not a fatass. Ur a fatass.

 

Unless you play WoW, I can't challenge you at least not yet -- I haven't played an xbox game since fable 2 last year...things been collecting dust since.

 

Edit, and I'm not THAT old. I was in the single digits in the 80's...at least for part of it.

 

Anyone who has ever played a video game online knows trash talk. Play Modern Warfare 2 for five minutes and you have 10 year old kids calling you named you've never heard of.

 

I'll tell you a story. I played Killzone 2 for awhile. It has proximity chat. (For anyone that doesn't know, that means the enemy team can hear you talking if you are close enough to them.) Me and a guy I used to play with used to yell a word that rhymes with mock and starts with a c every time we got a kill. I was living in an apartment complex and did this for about two weeks. I stopped after two weeks because one of my neighbors knocked on my door in the middle of the game and said, "Can you please stop yelling cock?"

 

You're not terribly far ahead of me in gaming years. I started on Nintendo. I didn't start PC gaming until a few years ago because I'm a poor ass mo'fo and stayed on the console for years and years. My recent PC is my baby because I built it myself, and it was goddamn cheap to do, and it plays everything and does everything everyone here is complaining PC's struggle with like a champ - like video streaming.

 

Also, I tried to play WoW twice. I got around level 50 twice, but was just painfully bored with grinding. I hate grinding and I don't play MMO's because it's all about the grind. When I play an RPG, I prefer to explore. But not explore western RPG style because they hardly reward you for it. Japanese RPGs are my favorite, and f*** Square Enix for making Final Fantasy 13 so linear.

 

I don't own an xbox, but I'm trying to save a bit of cash to get one. I do 90% of my gaming on the PS3. But in a few months, I might not be a gamer anymore. I'm enlisted in the Air-Force and was supposed to go months ago, but they allowed me to push the date back so I could get my #1 job choice.

[Y2HH]

Anyone who has ever played a video game online knows trash talk. Play Modern Warfare 2 for five minutes and you have 10 year old kids calling you named you've never heard of.

 

I'll tell you a story. I played Killzone 2 for awhile. It has proximity chat. (For anyone that doesn't know, that means the enemy team can hear you talking if you are close enough to them.) Me and a guy I used to play with used to yell a word that rhymes with mock and starts with a c every time we got a kill. I was living in an apartment complex and did this for about two weeks. I stopped after two weeks because one of my neighbors knocked on my door in the middle of the game and said, "Can you please stop yelling cock?"

 

You're not terribly far ahead of me in gaming years. I started on Nintendo. I didn't start PC gaming until a few years ago because I'm a poor ass mo'fo and stayed on the console for years and years. My recent PC is my baby because I built it myself, and it was goddamn cheap to do, and it plays everything and does everything everyone here is complaining PC's struggle with like a champ - like video streaming.

 

Also, I tried to play WoW twice. I got around level 50 twice, but was just painfully bored with grinding. I hate grinding and I don't play MMO's because it's all about the grind. When I play an RPG, I prefer to explore. But not explore western RPG style because they hardly reward you for it. Japanese RPGs are my favorite, and f*** Square Enix for making Final Fantasy 13 so linear.

 

I don't own an xbox, but I'm trying to save a bit of cash to get one. I do 90% of my gaming on the PS3. But in a few months, I might not be a gamer anymore. I'm enlisted in the Air-Force and was supposed to go months ago, but they allowed me to push the date back so I could get my #1 job choice.

 

Yea, that's the biggest problem with WoW, the game doesn't even begin until you're at max level -- that's where all the fun is. Some people find leveling fun, and it can be for a while, especially if you are doing it with friends -- but to do so it solo is a grind, and it gets boring.

 

The truly fun stuff is all at level 80 now.

[Balta1701]

Apple has run out of iPad's.

[iamshack]

Apple has run out of iPad's.

Interesting. Glad I ordered mine in the first day. As I said the other day, Apple billed me finally on Friday, and my order does still say "to be delivered on April 3rd," so I am assuming it will arrive on Saturday still.