southsider2k5 Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Kenny Williams said that he made a multi-year offer to Bobby Jenks before they settled on the contract for one year that he got at $7.5 million. They also chased after Nick Johnson, but couldn't match the Yankees $5.5 million offer. They also couldn't afford Chad Tracy, all according to the CHicago Tribune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 The fact we couldn't match 5.5 million in an offer for Nick Johnson pisses me off even more than we're wasting money on Mark Kotsay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmbjeff Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 couldn't afford chad tracy? for real? that guy should be making about 1million a year tops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 24, 2010 -> 10:37 AM) Kenny Williams said that he made a multi-year offer to Bobby Jenks before they settled on the contract for one year that he got at $7.5 million. They also chased after Nick Johnson, but couldn't match the Yankees $5.5 million offer. They also couldn't afford Chad Tracy, all according to the CHicago Tribune. This is BS. Chad Tracy would have cost a couple million at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 24, 2010 -> 10:41 AM) The fact we couldn't match 5.5 million in an offer for Nick Johnson pisses me off even more than we're wasting money on Mark Kotsay. And Omar Vizquel... Teahen + Vizquel + Kotsay pretty much pays for Johnson. I'd rather have Johnson than those three. I think Kenny has something up his sleeve, he usually doesn't BS like this. Edited January 24, 2010 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 24, 2010 -> 05:45 PM) And Omar Vizquel... Teahen + Vizquel + Kotsay pretty much pays for Johnson. I'd rather have Johnson than those three. I think Kenny has something up his sleeve, he usually doesn't BS like this. Good point, I'd much rather have Getz over Teahen if it meant having money to afford an actual DH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 24, 2010 Author Share Posted January 24, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 24, 2010 -> 10:41 AM) The fact we couldn't match 5.5 million in an offer for Nick Johnson pisses me off even more than we're wasting money on Mark Kotsay. I get the feeling that even if we did match it, he would have gone to NY anyway. Why would someone chose the Sox over the Yankees right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 24, 2010 -> 10:41 AM) The fact we couldn't match 5.5 million in an offer for Nick Johnson pisses me off even more than we're wasting money on Mark Kotsay. Kotsay should have never been signed. He should not get any playing time except for pinch hitting duties. I'll be pissed even more if we sign Thome for around 5 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 QUOTE (ChWRoCk2 @ Jan 24, 2010 -> 12:32 PM) I'll be pissed even more if we sign Thome for around 5 million. There's no way they sign Thome for anything over $2M if even that much. Thome @ 2M used as a platoon LH DH batting around 5th or lower in the order is a great fit for the Sox. Paying him more than that or trying to use him as a centerpiece of the offense would be a big mistake. Personally, I'd rather see the Sox acquire someone better than Thome for that last roster spot (someone like a Luke Scott would be a nice fit) but I'd much rather see the Sox sign Thome for cheap and platoon him at DH with Nix than go into the season with a Jones/Kotsay/Vizquel rotating DH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrlesque Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 24, 2010 -> 10:53 AM) I get the feeling that even if we did match it, he would have gone to NY anyway. Why would someone chose the Sox over the Yankees right now? You might still be right, but the Trib article said the interest in Johnson was "mutual", FWIW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 QUOTE (dmbjeff @ Jan 24, 2010 -> 11:41 AM) couldn't afford chad tracy? for real? that guy should be making about 1million a year tops. That is insane not to afford him ................KW at his best again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 24, 2010 -> 10:45 AM) And Omar Vizquel... Teahen + Vizquel + Kotsay pretty much pays for Johnson. I'd rather have Johnson than those three. I think Kenny has something up his sleeve, he usually doesn't BS like this. I could not agree more, this is all part of his plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 24, 2010 -> 10:45 AM) I think Kenny has something up his sleeve, he usually doesn't BS like this. Last time he did this he got Peavy and Rios. He's gonna do something... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Safe to say we tried to get Jenks on the ultra cheap for the next few years? Based on his declining performance I can't think we were trying to do anything but that.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Jan 24, 2010 -> 01:21 PM) Safe to say we tried to get Jenks on the ultra cheap for the next few years? Based on his declining performance I can't think we were trying to do anything but that.. Based on what Soriano and Valverde got, "ultra cheap" may have been actually fair market value, if not slightly above that. Whatever the Sox offer was, you have to wonder if Bobby is regretting passing on it right now. My main guess would be the Sox made a multi-year offer just to get around the 2011 arbitration situation where we may be forced to non-tender him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YonderLaroche Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 24, 2010 -> 12:57 PM) Last time he did this he got Peavy and Rios. He's gonna do something... that's probably why he wont do anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Ihave a good feeling about Jenks this season. Which basically means he's going to suck, since I've been wrong more than right the past few seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 QUOTE (Springfield SoxFan @ Jan 24, 2010 -> 12:54 PM) I could not agree more, this is all part of his plan. I too agree wholeheartedly. I'm telling you KW is going to come up with something that'll make us all say WTF??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Chad Tracy -- the same guy the Sox apparently could not afford -- signed a minor league deal with the Cubs, he'll make $900K if he makes the team there's another ~$500K in incentives if he reaches 450K. Yes, an MLC/$900K, frightening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 27, 2010 Author Share Posted January 27, 2010 To be fair, we don't know what he asked for from the Sox. Remember Pods started out at 2 years $15 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jan 26, 2010 -> 07:56 PM) Chad Tracy -- the same guy the Sox apparently could not afford -- signed a minor league deal with the Cubs, he'll make $900K if he makes the team there's another ~$500K in incentives if he reaches 450K. Yes, an MLC/$900K, frightening. Smoke Screen. Nick Johnson was real, Chad Tracy was not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Do you think there is any chance we could ever get Johnny Damon on a one year deal, notwithstanding his agent? That would be awesome, I realize it's a pipe dream so criticize me accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeynach Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 I wonder how u come up short on 1 year $5.5M offer for the perfect DH for your team. What did they offer Johnson, like 1 Year 3M?? And how do u not match the offer of $5.5? WTF??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 QUOTE (Springfield SoxFan @ Jan 26, 2010 -> 08:06 PM) Do you think there is any chance we could ever get Johnny Damon on a one year deal, notwithstanding his agent? That would be awesome, I realize it's a pipe dream so criticize me accordingly. I think it could happen, but I think one of the biggest problems is the Sox signed Andruw Jones, also a Boras guy and Damon would take ABs away from him, but if the Sox money is right, and from what I'm reading Mark Teahan 2010 money is either the top bid or very close, I think Damon would sign with the Sox. I do know KW inquired earlier in the offseason when his price tag was much higher. I don't know if the Sox have any interest. After all, you wouldn't want Johnny Damon taking ABs away from Jones, Kotsay or Vizquel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jan 26, 2010 -> 08:02 PM) Smoke Screen. Nick Johnson was real, Chad Tracy was not. I was being largely facetious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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