mr_genius Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 31, 2011 -> 07:39 PM) In some ways, I like Gingrich better than any of the other candidates. I think he is very sharp, he has a track record of working across the aisle, and he's very legislatively savvy. Of course he is also the biggest asshole amongst the den of assholes. Newt Gingrich can be a total jackass, i will not deny that. But he's still probably who I would vote for in the primary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 1, 2011 Author Share Posted November 1, 2011 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Oct 31, 2011 -> 07:44 PM) Newt Gingrich can be a total jackass, i will not deny that. But he's still probably who I would vote for in the primary. I'm wondering why I will vote in the primary. If the Texas race is close, I may go vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Oct 31, 2011 -> 07:31 PM) Rush Limbaugh talks about the racially tinged attacks on Herman Cain from racist democrat party members http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/201...ged_attack.html After all, it is the standard that they themselves set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 One of the women involved in Cain's harassment settlements wants to come forward, and her lawyer is now trying to see if Cain's public statements denying the harassment means that he has vacated the confidentiality part of the agreement and thus would allow her to do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 2, 2011 Author Share Posted November 2, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 1, 2011 -> 05:57 PM) One of the women involved in Cain's harassment settlements wants to come forward, and her lawyer is now trying to see if Cain's public statements denying the harassment means that he has vacated the confidentiality part of the agreement and thus would allow her to do the same. Ouch, seems fair. I'm not ready to convict him based on a settlement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 I don't seem to recall the press being this interested in a sex scandal when you had a Presidential contender screwing around on his sick wife. There were even details in that one, and no confidentiality agreements to get in the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 1, 2011 -> 11:39 AM) In some ways, I like Gingrich better than any of the other candidates. I think he is very sharp, he has a track record of working across the aisle, and he's very legislatively savvy. Of course he is also the biggest asshole amongst the den of assholes. From an outsider's point of view I'd agree with this. He seems to be the least "wacky" and has some actualy decent policy ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Nov 2, 2011 -> 06:30 AM) I don't seem to recall the press being this interested in a sex scandal when you had a Presidential contender screwing around on his sick wife. There were even details in that one, and no confidentiality agreements to get in the way. Newt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 2, 2011 -> 06:53 AM) Newt? LOL, we all know who he meant I think (Edwards), and of course we heard all about that one. So I have no idea what he is referring to as some sort of cover-up. Unless maybe he really did mean Newt? Or some Democrat other than Edwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 2, 2011 -> 08:06 AM) LOL, we all know who he meant I think (Edwards), and of course we heard all about that one. So I have no idea what he is referring to as some sort of cover-up. Unless maybe he really did mean Newt? Or some Democrat other than Edwards? There was a considerable amount of time between the story coming out and it being widely reported because it wasn't coming from "reputable sources". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 2, 2011 -> 08:07 AM) There was a considerable amount of time between the story coming out and it being widely reported because it wasn't coming from "reputable sources". It was coming from the National Inquirer. That's the definition of a disreputable source. This story is coming from Politico and has been acknowledged by Cain. The comparison doesn't really make much sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 2, 2011 -> 08:06 AM) LOL, we all know who he meant I think (Edwards), and of course we heard all about that one. So I have no idea what he is referring to as some sort of cover-up. Unless maybe he really did mean Newt? Or some Democrat other than Edwards? I knew he meant Edwards, I just wanted to throw in a jab at family-values man Newt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 2, 2011 -> 08:07 AM) There was a considerable amount of time between the story coming out and it being widely reported because it wasn't coming from "reputable sources". Politico is generally going to get a little more traction than the friggin National Enquirer, and so it should. Either way, it happened and was all over the press in both cases. Hell, if you will recall, I hated Edwards all along, so I am the last guy who would defend him. But his story ran a LOT in the national press, after a few days went buy and the Enquirer's story could be backed up by some believable evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 2, 2011 -> 08:15 AM) Politico is generally going to get a little more traction than the friggin National Enquirer, and so it should. Either way, it happened and was all over the press in both cases. Hell, if you will recall, I hated Edwards all along, so I am the last guy who would defend him. But his story ran a LOT in the national press, after a few days went buy and the Enquirer's story could be backed up by some believable evidence. When it was all too late to really matter. And I am not defending Newt in any way. Good politician, slimy guy. Seems to almost be the norm, for both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 2, 2011 -> 09:07 AM) There was a considerable amount of time between the story coming out and it being widely reported because it wasn't coming from "reputable sources". There's another side of this too...and that's the crap response by Cain's campaign. He's changed his stories more times in 3 days than I have fingers to count on. The Edwards campaign simply denied, denied, denied. Every time the story changes...it's another story, and it's another claim that can be investigated, maybe without much effort. It's much easier to report "Cain's new story contradicts Cain's last story" than it is to actually go out and do things like "investigating to find buried 1990's court records regarding settlements that are supposedly sealed and then working around signed confidentiality agreements". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Anybody want to know who's campaign leaked it to Politico? A Republican consultant in Oklahoma who has conducted polling for a Super PAC supporting Rick Perry claims that he personally witnessed Herman Cain harass one of his accusers. And — from what he saw at least — the case is no joke. “I was the pollster at the National Restaurant Association when Herman Cain was head of it and I was around a couple of times when this happened and anyone who was involved with the NRA at the time, knew that this was gonna come up,” strategist Chris Wilson told local station KTOK in an interview on Wednesday. According to Wilson, the main incident occurred at a DC-area restaurant and that “everybody was aware of it,” but that for legal reasons he can’t discuss the details. But he added that if Cain’s accuser comes forward — and one of the two woman who reportedly received a settlement has expressed interest in doing just that — her story won’t be pretty. “If she talks about it, I think it’ll be the end of his campaign,” he said. “It was only a matter of time because so many people were aware of what took place, so many people were aware of her situation, the fact she left—-everybody knew with the campaign that this would eventually come up,” Wilson said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 2, 2011 Author Share Posted November 2, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 2, 2011 -> 02:55 PM) Anybody want to know who's campaign leaked it to Politico? It ain't bad to leak if it's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Tex @ Nov 2, 2011 -> 06:02 PM) It ain't bad to leak if it's true. better to get this scandal out now than in the general election. but if it comes out that Rick Perry's campaign was behind tipping off Politico, that won't help him at all. it will only increase the number of GOP voters that hate him. Edited November 3, 2011 by mr_genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 2, 2011 -> 06:53 AM) Newt? at least with Newt Gingrich all the scandals have probably already been revealed. Edited November 3, 2011 by mr_genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Nov 2, 2011 -> 07:30 AM) I don't seem to recall the press being this interested in a sex scandal when you had a Presidential contender screwing around on his sick wife. There were even details in that one, and no confidentiality agreements to get in the way. Huh? That killed whatever was left of his political career. Everyone knew about it and it was all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 2, 2011 -> 08:06 PM) Huh? That killed whatever was left of his political career. Everyone knew about it and it was all over the place. He's also facing charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Cain Camp Accuses Perry Campaign of Leaking Sexual Harassment Claims http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/11/02...assment-claims/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 3, 2011 Author Share Posted November 3, 2011 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Nov 2, 2011 -> 06:30 AM) I don't seem to recall the press being this interested in a sex scandal when you had a Presidential contender screwing around on his sick wife. There were even details in that one, and no confidentiality agreements to get in the way. You are kidding, right? Or is there someone other than Edwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 3, 2011 Author Share Posted November 3, 2011 Are these claims, settlements, accusations, etc. something that voters have a right to know about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Lemon Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Speaking of Newt, here is an interesting exchange he had w/ Romney at a recent debate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buuIILk31lI...feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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