StrangeSox Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 7, 2011 -> 08:35 PM) No, but that's the point. Her instinctual response to such an "unwelcome" and "offensive" act would have been to say "wtf? get off me!" not remind the guy that she's got a boyfriend. I'm glad you know the "correct" reaction everyone who is sexually harassed should have. It's generally an exploitation of power situation, people can be sexually harassed or even raped even if they don't put on a strong resistance at the time of the incident. Edited November 8, 2011 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 7, 2011 -> 08:34 PM) Do you have a client who keeps getting accused of the same thing by different people who don't know each other or about other settlements? Indeed I do. People with money. People who own businesses (in my case bar/restaurants/night clubs) People in positions of power. Happens every single day. Go check the Northern District (Federal Court) website for sex harassment/discrimination claims. Especially against a big employer like the City. You'll see a trend. Not trying to diminish these claims or people who have legitimate claims generally. But you guys are smart, how are you not seeing how questionable this lady is? A couple of anonymous claims come out, and then she feels compelled to break her silence and pile on? And there's no ulterior motive? She just wants to do it for the good of all women? Come on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 7, 2011 -> 08:39 PM) Indeed I do. People with money. People who own businesses (in my case bar/restaurants/night clubs) People in positions of power. Happens every single day. Go check the Northern District (Federal Court) website for sex harassment/discrimination claims. Especially against a big employer like the City. You'll see a trend. Not trying to diminish these claims or people who have legitimate claims generally. But you guys are smart, how are you not seeing how questionable this lady is? A couple of anonymous claims come out, and then she feels compelled to break her silence and pile on? And there's no ulterior motive? She just wants to do it for the good of all women? Come on... What's her ulterior motive? What is so shocking that, when a story becomes a national news item, you might feel compelled to speak up about your own experience of being sexually harassed by this creepy man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 7, 2011 -> 08:40 PM) What's her ulterior motive? What is so shocking that, when a story becomes a national news item, you might feel compelled to speak up about your own experience of being sexually harassed by this creepy man? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Edited November 8, 2011 by Jenksismybitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Money-grubbing whores lying to make Cain look bad and to make a buck! They're so untrustworthy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 7, 2011 -> 08:43 PM) Money-grubbing whores lying to make Cain look bad and to make a buck! They're so untrustworthy! You ever get tired of the snarky responses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 7, 2011 -> 08:45 PM) You ever get tired of the snarky responses? It's a way of highlighting some the serious problems I have with your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 7, 2011 -> 08:47 PM) It's a way of highlighting some the serious problems I have with your posts. Lol, ok man. I forgot everyone is honorable and trustworthy in what they do....unless you're a white person with money who votes Republican. Edited November 8, 2011 by Jenksismybitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 7, 2011 -> 08:51 PM) Lol, ok man. I forgot everyone is honorable and trustworthy in what they do....unless you're a white person with money who votes Republican. Tell me more about how you know what her "instinctual response" to being groped should be and how any other reaction proves she's just a in it for the benjamins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 7, 2011 -> 08:55 PM) Tell me more about how you know what her "instinctual response" to being groped should be and how any other reaction proves she's just a in it for the benjamins. I've explained my opinion. It's the timing that makes it more suspect. And yes, her reaction makes her less credible. Explain to me why someone comes out of nowhere to pile on at a press conference headlined by a hollywood attorney? The goodness of her heart? Again, I'll enjoy her morning show/day time talk show circuit to talk about these claims. I'm sure she's doing that for nothing. I'm sure it's all about exposing the Monster Cain. GMAFB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I accept your apology for claiming to know what her "instinctual response" should be. She was probably asking for it, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 7, 2011 -> 09:00 PM) I accept your apology for claiming to know what her "instinctual response" should be. She was probably asking for it, anyway. I accept your apology for being willfully ignorant about questioning this woman's motives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 7, 2011 -> 10:00 PM) I accept your apology for claiming to know what her "instinctual response" should be. She was probably asking for it, anyway. This is ridiculous and inappropriate. Enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 7, 2011 -> 09:31 PM) Settlements mean absolutely nothing. It's ten times cheaper to pay someone off than to take a case through trial. I do it all the time. Unfortunately that's the way our justice system works. I could begrudgingly get with this if it was one settlement. Unfortunately, its not. It's becoming a pattern of behavior apparently, and Cain's inability to handle his scandal makes me think that there is a lot of this behavior that he's embarrassed about. When you deny whatever comes out, and gradually over the week, you basically prove the story right while still sort of denying it, you lead me to question your honesty in this matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Nov 7, 2011 -> 09:06 PM) I could begrudgingly get with this if it was one settlement. Unfortunately, its not. It's becoming a pattern of behavior apparently, and Cain's inability to handle his scandal makes me think that there is a lot of this behavior that he's embarrassed about. When you deny whatever comes out, and gradually over the week, you basically prove the story right while still sort of denying it, you lead me to question your honesty in this matter. Well there's no doubt he's a terrible politician. But my posts are specifically about this woman, not about Cain being totally innocent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I just looked at a picture of Cain's newest accuser. She is clearly a loon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Nov 7, 2011 -> 10:51 PM) I just looked at a picture of Cain's newest accuser. She is clearly a loon. You got that from a picture? H Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 8, 2011 Author Share Posted November 8, 2011 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 7, 2011 -> 08:41 PM) $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ How else should Cain have been disciplined? We have a system in this country of jail and fines for criminal and financial rewards for civil. That's our system. WHat alternative would have suggested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 8, 2011 Author Share Posted November 8, 2011 This reminds me of the case where a woman was about to be raped and asked the rapist to use a condom, which the slut had in her nightstand. The defense claimed it made it consensual because her reaction was trying to avoid getting AIDS or pregnant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 7, 2011 -> 08:51 PM) Lol, ok man. I forgot everyone is honorable and trustworthy in what they do....unless you're a white person with money who votes Republican. Or apparently a black person who does the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 So a fifth woman is coming out and saying Cain is a creeper who made me uncomfortable. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/67819.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 The Daily has identified one of the accusers Karen Kraushaar, a 55-year-old former journalist and seasoned government spokeswoman who served on the front lines of the Elian Gonzalez custody battle, is a competitive equestrian and lover of golden retrievers. She has been married for more than two decades. “She wouldn’t be the type to make false allegations,” brother-in-law Ned Kraushaar, a Georgia software consultant, told The Daily. “This happened [more than] 10 years ago. It’s not like she wanted to try and hurt the Republican Party.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 http://news.yahoo.com/cain-accuser-stands-...-122629383.html Bialek appeared on CNN, ABC's "Good Morning America," CBS's "The Early Show" and NBC's "Today" show. She wasn't paid to make a statement. But she sure was paid to make all these appearances! What a crock of s***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 http://www.suntimes.com/8592168-417/sneed-...-month-ago.html They hugged each other backstage in a full embrace like old friends. She grabbed his arm and whispered in his left ear. She kept talking as he bent to listen, and he kept saying “Uh, huh. Uh, huh.” Huh? “I don’t know if what she was giving him was a sucker punch, but he didn’t put his arm down while she was talking to him,” said the Sneed source. Turns out Bialek hugged Cain a month ago. Pretty common for victims of sexual harassment or sexual assault to be all buddy-buddy with their harasser. Makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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