mr_genius Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 i don't know, the whole story still seems very 'fishy'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Jan 27, 2012 -> 04:36 PM) i don't know, the whole story still seems very 'fishy'. Yeah, it does seem very fishy that a guy would put out a regularly racist newsletter under his name without caring about what was in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 27, 2012 -> 04:34 PM) Yeah, it does seem very fishy that a guy would put out a regularly racist newsletter under his name without caring about what was in it. haha, remember when you guys where in here calling Hillary Clinton a racist? that was great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Gingrich looked terrible last debate. I wouldn't be surprised to see him come in 3rd in Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Jan 27, 2012 -> 05:21 PM) haha, remember when you guys where in here calling Hillary Clinton a racist? that was great. no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 27, 2012 -> 05:54 PM) no? yes you do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Hillary said some clumsy line talking about her supporters in certain states and she said "hard-working Americans... white Americans" that she got blasted for and rightfully so. It was a stupid comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jan 27, 2012 -> 10:11 PM) Hillary said some clumsy line talking about her supporters in certain states and she said "hard-working Americans... white Americans" that she got blasted for and rightfully so. It was a stupid comment And Bill Clinton was the one blowing the dog whistle in that campaign most of the time anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Spending by outside groups was about 2% in the 2008 GOP primary, and is 44% of total spending this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Good rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Robocall currently running in Florida. As governor of Massachusetts, Mitt Romney vetoed a bill paying for kosher food for our seniors in nursing homes. Holocaust survivors, who for the first time, were forced to eat non-kosher, because Romney thought $5 was too much to pay for our grandparents to eat kosher. Where is Mitt Romney's compassion for our seniors? Tuesday you can end Mitt Romney's hypocrisy on religious freedom, with a vote for Newt Gingrich. Paid for by Newt 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 31, 2012 -> 03:26 PM) Robocall currently running in Florida. Yeah, I don't think Romney's campaign is any more dirty than Gingrich's, regardless of the current impression the media seems to have. Romney has more money and more ads running, but they are both running highly negative campaigns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Romney's going to win Florida and he's going to take the nomination. Maybe Gingrich drags this out for a while, but he doesn't have nearly the national infrastructure that Clinton did to prolong 2008. Then, if he loses the general, conservative Republicans will again be clamoring for a ultra-hard-right candidate, convinced that they lost 1996, 2008 and 2012 because they nominated a RINO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 31, 2012 -> 05:01 PM) Romney's going to win Florida and he's going to take the nomination. Maybe Gingrich drags this out for a while, but he doesn't have nearly the national infrastructure that Clinton did to prolong 2008. Then, if he loses the general, conservative Republicans will again be clamoring for a ultra-hard-right candidate, convinced that they lost 1996, 2008 and 2012 because they nominated a RINO. I think Gingrich stays in at least through Super Tuesday, unless he truly runs out of money. If he's getting lambasted by then, at that point, it is a math question. Does Romney look like he will get enough delegates for a true majority? If not, and if Gingrich/Paul Santorum can together get better than 50%, it will get very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 31, 2012 -> 06:13 PM) I think Gingrich stays in at least through Super Tuesday, unless he truly runs out of money. If he's getting lambasted by then, at that point, it is a math question. Does Romney look like he will get enough delegates for a true majority? If not, and if Gingrich/Paul Santorum can together get better than 50%, it will get very interesting. With polling the way it currently is, no. He'd need a serious boost to be able to get a majority from where he's polling nationally, even if Gingrich erodes a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Huge win in Florida. No one saw this coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NorthSideSox72 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 So, with 98% reporting, the Florida count looks like this... Romney: 46% Gingrich: 32% Santorum: 13% Paul: 7% FL is winner-take-all, so Romney gets all 50 delegates. Current delegate counts (IA, NH, SC, FL): Romney: 66 Gingrich: 25 Paul: 10 Santorum: 8 Next few contests and latest polls for each... Saturday, 2/4: NEVADA (28 delegates, proportional, caucus) latest poll: Las Vegas Journal-Review, 12/12-12/20 (before IA!) --Romney 33% --Gingrich 29% --Paul 13% --Santorum 3% Tuesday, 2/7: COLORADO (36, proportional, caucus) latest poll: PPP, 12/1-4 (before IA!) --Gingrich 37% --Romney 18% --Paul 6% --Santorum 4% MINNESOTA (40, caucus) latest poll: PPP, 1/21-22 --Gingrich 36% --Romney 18% --Santorum 17% --Paul 13% MISSOURI (primary - NOT COUNTED, real results are in March) X Saturday, 2/11: MAINE (24, proportional, caucus) *No polls since October, but early indications report Romney and Paul frontrunners Tuesday, 2/28: ARIZONA (29, winner-take-all, primary) *No polls since November MICHIGAN (30*, proportional, primary) latest poll: EPIC-MRA, 1/21-1/25 --Romney 31% --Gingrich 26% --Paul 14% --Santorum 10% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Florida GOP primary turnout appears to have fallen by somewhere between 10-20% compared to 08. I'm going to guess that this is a consequence of "negative campaigning". The Gingrich campaign reportedly didn't call Mittens's campaign last night to congratulate/say something nice. Can't read his mind, but that's the kind of thing you'd do if you really were taking this campaign personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 President John Tyler’s grandson says Newt Gingrich is a 'jerk' I only post this because it's pretty crazy that someone born in 1790 still has two living grandchildren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Jesus, this is remarkable. Of the 1,012 spots Newt Gingrich's campaign ran, 95% were negative. Mitt Romney's campaign ran 3,276 ads and 99% were negative. The two super PACs supporting the top candidates were more divergent in their ad strategies. Restore our Future, supporting Romney, ran 4,969 spots, all of which were negative. The Gingrich-backing Winning our Future ran 1,893 spots, and only 53% were negative. Mittens ran 8000 ads in Florida over the last week...~30 of which were positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 1, 2012 -> 01:19 PM) Jesus, this is remarkable. Mittens ran 8000 ads in Florida over the last week...~30 of which were positive. It's not surprising. Ask any average Joe who he's voting for and why, and he'll simply list off the reasons why he ISN'T voting for other candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Feb 1, 2012 -> 01:28 PM) It's not surprising. Ask any average Joe who he's voting for and why, and he'll simply list off the reasons why he ISN'T voting for other candidates. It got Obama elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Feb 1, 2012 -> 01:28 PM) It's not surprising. Ask any average Joe who he's voting for and why, and he'll simply list off the reasons why he ISN'T voting for other candidates. I have no problem with the concept of negative campaigning, it's just that they're almost always 99.99% dishonest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 1, 2012 -> 02:32 PM) It got Obama elected. The major-party presidential nominees continued to dump record amounts of money into television advertising, spending more than $28 million last week alone, according to an analysis by the University of Wisconsin Advertising Project, which is affiliated with the school's political science department. And, the survey found, with just weeks to go before the election, nearly 100 percent of GOP nominee John McCain's TV ads aired last week were negative. In comparison, 34 percent of Democratic nominee Barack Obama's ads last week were negative. Link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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