southsider2k5 Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 QUOTE (Middle Buffalo @ Feb 7, 2012 -> 10:56 AM) That doesn't really refute my point. Obviously, since he's running for president, he hasn't cut all of his political ties. But, really, I just posted the original comment and link to the article because I'm kind of sick of all of our political figures being a little out of touch with most Americans. I'd guess that Mitt has done everything to the letter of the law financially, but that doesn't mean that I have to like the laws. I'd love to see Congressmen put on the same restrictions that I am as an employee in the trading sector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 7, 2012 -> 01:22 PM) I'd love to see Congressmen put on the same restrictions that I am as an employee in the trading sector. I agree. I can do very little trading or picking of any kind. I can pick funds in 401k's and IRA's, and I can have blind funds of various types... but I can't pick any individual stocks or ETF's, or invest in anything OTC or exotic, without prior clearance by the firm for inside or conflict of interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 7, 2012 -> 01:37 PM) I agree. I can do very little trading or picking of any kind. I can pick funds in 401k's and IRA's, and I can have blind funds of various types... but I can't pick any individual stocks or ETF's, or invest in anything OTC or exotic, without prior clearance by the firm for inside or conflict of interest. We have a restricted list of clients that trade with us, which we are not allowed to trade at all. We have to have all account statements sent in duplicate to the exchange. We are lucky we don't have to worry about pre-clearance, though we get immediately fired if we trade anything we aren't supposed to. We do have to get all new accounts pre-registered though. In the industry what you have is the most common way. Lots of firms won't even let you have a trading account with another firm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Santorum likely to win the contest that doesn't count in Missouri and has a decent early lead in the slow moving MN caucus. This is looking like his night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 7, 2012 -> 08:46 PM) Santorum likely to win the contest that doesn't count in Missouri and has a decent early lead in the slow moving MN caucus. This is looking like his night. The Republicans really don't care about winning the presidency this fall, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Missouri is turning into a Santorum stomping. Mittens so far is underperforming how he did in 2008 in Colorado, no idea yet if that could be enough to push that race close. Gingrich being slaughtered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Feb 7, 2012 -> 09:09 PM) The Republicans really don't care about winning the presidency this fall, apparently. None of the candidates look very strong right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 7, 2012 -> 09:12 PM) None of the candidates look very strong right now. If Romney would have had a big night tonight, it'd have been like going into the fourth quarter with a sizable lead. He's left it as a 10 point game right now, and is punting. I just don't see how the Republican party could seriously let Santorum ultimately win this, either. Despite the fact he won Iowa, I guarantee that the state stays blue if he was the nominee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Feb 7, 2012 -> 09:18 PM) If Romney would have had a big night tonight, it'd have been like going into the fourth quarter with a sizable lead. He's left it as a 10 point game right now, and is punting. I just don't see how the Republican party could seriously let Santorum ultimately win this, either. Despite the fact he won Iowa, I guarantee that the state stays blue if he was the nominee. I still have zero doubt that Romney walks away with this thing, but his general favorability numbers have been steadily declining since early January. Any other GOP candidate would lose in a historic landslide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 7, 2012 -> 09:23 PM) I still have zero doubt that Romney walks away with this thing, but his general favorability numbers have been steadily declining since early January. Any other GOP candidate would lose in a historic landslide. I really don't think that there was any way the GOP should lose this election if they knew what they were doing. But things don't look overly rosy for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Minnesota called for Santorum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Feb 7, 2012 -> 10:18 PM) If Romney would have had a big night tonight, it'd have been like going into the fourth quarter with a sizable lead. He's left it as a 10 point game right now, and is punting. I just don't see how the Republican party could seriously let Santorum ultimately win this, either. Despite the fact he won Iowa, I guarantee that the state stays blue if he was the nominee. There are now several weeks before Arizona, which means Mitts money gets to hit Santorum over the next couple weeks. Newt-style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 7, 2012 -> 09:33 PM) There are now several weeks before Arizona, which means Mitts money gets to hit Santorum over the next couple weeks. Newt-style. ^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Not-Romney part VI wins all three contests yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 8, 2012 -> 08:01 AM) Not-Romney part VI wins all three contests yesterday. Really surprised by his Solid Colorado win, Mittens won that state in 2008 even when it was pretty clear McCain was on a path to victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Feb 7, 2012 -> 11:16 PM) ^^^ Here's the one thing I'm curious about...Newt Gingrich is really easy to attack in any race, a 3 year old could figure that attack ad out. But in a Republican primary, Santorum seems a lot harder to attack. He should seem incredibly toxic in a general election, but we're talking about Republican voters in Arizona for 3 weeks...that doesn't strike me as a group where "this guy really, really hates gay people" is going to be viewed as a huge negative. What else is there to go after him on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 8, 2012 -> 07:46 AM) Really surprised by his Solid Colorado win, Mittens won that state in 2008 even when it was pretty clear McCain was on a path to victory. Santorum was in CO before the FL primary was even over. He saturated there, while Romney and Gingrich barely showed up - because it doesn't count for anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 8, 2012 -> 09:01 AM) Santorum was in CO before the FL primary was even over. He saturated there, while Romney and Gingrich barely showed up - because it doesn't count for anything. Why Does Colorado not count for anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 8, 2012 -> 08:02 AM) Why Does Colorado not count for anything? NO delegates are awarded. None. Same for MN, and MO (but for different reasons). All three contests were non-binding. All three states actually make their binding selections at a later date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 8, 2012 -> 09:06 AM) NO delegates are awarded. None. Same for MN, and MO (but for different reasons). All three contests were non-binding. All three states actually make their binding selections at a later date. Yeah, but MN and CO will award delegates based on those results so they're at least reportable. MO is fundamentally differennt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 8, 2012 -> 08:10 AM) Yeah, but MN and CO will award delegates based on those results so they're at least reportable. MO is fundamentally differennt. Obviously MO is a different case, theirs was 100% useless. CO and MN will re-caucus at the precinct level, then at the state level, later. After Super Tuesday. Since they re-caucus, I am pretty sure this initial straw poll - which is what it was - doesn't really mean much. Just an indicator, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted February 8, 2012 Author Share Posted February 8, 2012 I've lost all interest in the primaries. I can't support either one of the front runners and just when I think I can warm up to Paul, I read something he said and that feeling goes away. Obama 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 QUOTE (Tex @ Feb 8, 2012 -> 09:54 AM) I've lost all interest in the primaries. I can't support either one of the front runners and just when I think I can warm up to Paul, I read something he said and that feeling goes away. Obama 2012 Paul wants to eliminate federally held public land, which would include the entire national parks system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 8, 2012 -> 09:58 AM) Paul wants to eliminate federally held public land, which would include the entire national parks system. ugh What we do with them? Private sales? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ Feb 8, 2012 -> 11:18 AM) ugh What we do with them? Private sales? His statement yesterday (I think) was that public lands should be under the control of the states. (Of course, if one actually reads the constitution, there is this clause which pretty clearly gives the Federal governnment the ability to control land: The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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