clyons Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 One night before a Republican primary, a liberal, a moderate and a conservative walk into a bar . . . Seeing this, the bartender cries, "How come you're not out campaigning, Gov. Romney?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 14, 2012 -> 07:17 AM) Birther heads will explode. I can see the Ruborocist phenomenon now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Feb 14, 2012 -> 03:38 PM) One night before a Republican primary, a liberal, a moderate and a conservative walk into a bar . . . Seeing this, the bartender cries, "How come you're not out campaigning, Gov. Romney?" I know, right? The guy attacks the liberals from the left and the conservatives from the right, and the centrists from his mirror. I cannot stand Rmoney. (I like it, Balta.). He's Rick Perry-esque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Feb 14, 2012 -> 07:46 PM) I know, right? The guy attacks the liberals from the left and the conservatives from the right, and the centrists from his mirror. I cannot stand Rmoney. (I like it, Balta.). He's Rick Perry-esque. He attacked Obama for not doing anything to fix entitlement programs and massively cutting entitlement spending. In adjoining sentences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 14, 2012 -> 08:32 PM) He attacked Obama for not doing anything to fix entitlement programs and massively cutting entitlement spending. In adjoining sentences. What does the moron even stand for? 59 point economic plan. Okay. What does it say? Whatever the f*** he wants it to say. That's kind of the point. He is a jackass. At least with Obama, you know what you get, even contrary to what you (specifically SS because I know you have issues with the guy) may think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Feb 14, 2012 -> 09:26 PM) What does the moron even stand for? 59 point economic plan. Okay. What does it say? Whatever the f*** he wants it to say. That's kind of the point. He is a jackass. At least with Obama, you know what you get, even contrary to what you (specifically SS because I know you have issues with the guy) may think. And the public has seemed to eat it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Feb 14, 2012 -> 10:28 PM) And the public has seemed to eat it up. That bolded part refers to Romney, whom the public is increasingly disliking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 15, 2012 -> 06:06 AM) That bolded part refers to Romney, whom the public is increasingly disliking. Isn't he still the front runner? He'll get the nomination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Feb 15, 2012 -> 08:37 AM) Isn't he still the front runner? He'll get the nomination. How are you defining front runner? Pledged delegates, states won, polling, or money? Rmoney leads 2 of those 4 categories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 15, 2012 -> 07:49 AM) How are you defining front runner? Pledged delegates, states won, polling, or money? Rmoney leads 2 of those 4 categories. Considering only one of those four gets you the nomination... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 15, 2012 -> 08:51 AM) Considering only one of those four gets you the nomination... Yeah I know money wins the nomination, but can it win in the general? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 15, 2012 -> 07:53 AM) Yeah I know money wins the nomination, but can it win in the general? I know the idea is to keep the Reps race in as much chaos as possible because it benefits the Oblamer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 15, 2012 -> 08:56 AM) I know the idea is to keep the Reps race in as much chaos as possible because it benefits the Oblamer. Yes. And that is happening because of me and this thread . If I'd keep my mouth shut, the party would line up behind Romney as it should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Feb 15, 2012 -> 07:37 AM) Isn't he still the front runner? He'll get the nomination. Probably, but his general favorability numbers have been steadily declining for over a month now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 15, 2012 -> 08:09 AM) Probably, but his general favorability numbers have been steadily declining for over a month now. The thing is, that will all change once the nomination process is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 15, 2012 -> 09:22 AM) The thing is, that will all change once the nomination process is done. Absolutely. At least a decent portion of that favorability drop is due to Newt and Santorum and Paul supporters turnign more negative with how the campaign has gone. They're going to turn the other way by the time August/September rolls around.= The only real question is how much of a dent that will make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 15, 2012 -> 08:22 AM) The thing is, that will all change once the nomination process is done. Why? It's not just "among Republicans" that his favorability has seriously dropped off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 15, 2012 -> 08:30 AM) Why? It's not just "among Republicans" that his favorability has seriously dropped off. It happens every contested primary. They all hate each other until the only other alternative is the other party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 15, 2012 -> 08:32 AM) It happens every contested primary. They all hate each other until the only other alternative is the other party. I don't doubt that he'll recover among Republicans, at least somewhat, but he's seen a sharp decline among independents and center-right dems as well. Obama and Hillary didn't see this sort of widespread hit to their favorability ratings in 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 15, 2012 -> 08:37 AM) I don't doubt that he'll recover among Republicans, at least somewhat, but he's seen a sharp decline among independents and center-right dems as well. Obama and Hillary didn't see this sort of widespread hit to their favorability ratings in 2008. I would bet we see some recovery in those numbers too once one candidate gets to control the message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 15, 2012 -> 08:39 AM) I would bet we see some recovery in those numbers too once one candidate gets to control the message. But then Obama starts unloading his $1B warchest! I think we can both agree that national poll numbers this far out make for dumb political horse-race watching but are good for little else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 15, 2012 -> 09:39 AM) I would bet we see some recovery in those numbers too once one candidate gets to control the message. I'm going to go with 2k5 here until proven otherwise. Rmoney's favorability crash has been what, a 3 week polling phenomenon at this point? If this campaign has taught us nothing else, it's that "3 week trends" tell us pretty much nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 15, 2012 -> 08:41 AM) But then Obama starts unloading his $1B warchest! I think we can both agree that national poll numbers this far out make for dumb political horse-race watching but are good for little else. I absolutely believe they are worthless, which is why I am blowing them off instead of posting them. History proves what numbers this far out are worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 15, 2012 -> 08:32 AM) It happens every contested primary. They all hate each other until the only other alternative is the other party. No matter which party, remember 2008? (oh nevermind, I needed to keep reading ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Mitt Rmoney will be outspending Rick Santorum by a ratio of 29 to 1 this week in Michigan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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