RockRaines Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Dec 22, 2010 -> 10:19 PM) Yo Rock, you hear anything about this Ohio State thing they are talking about on ESPN during the Boise game? 10 players potentially suspended for some tattoo parlor scandal? All I saw is that they are eligible and that Pryor said he paid for his tattoos. Didnt hear anything about suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 22, 2010 -> 10:20 PM) I hope that's not true. It would completely ruin a BCS bowl game. I guess the story is that a player's parent did all the negotiation and since the players didnt know about it they are eligible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 22, 2010 -> 10:23 PM) I guess the story is that a player's parent did all the negotiation and since the players didnt know about it they are eligible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 22, 2010 -> 10:23 PM) I guess the story is that a player's parent did all the negotiation and since the players didnt know about it they are eligible. The NCAA will regret the Cam Newton decision for a long time once this season ends. The loopholes it leaves open are endless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Dec 22, 2010 -> 10:19 PM) Yo Rock, you hear anything about this Ohio State thing they are talking about on ESPN during the Boise game? 10 players potentially suspended for some tattoo parlor scandal? So apparently they are having an announcement shortly. It would be a joke to see players suspended for signing autographs for tats while players are winning heismans with their parents asking for 180k. Oh well. Hopefully the school does the right thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Looks like: Mike Adams, Boom Herron, DeVier Posey, Terrelle Pryor, Solomon Thomas will miss first five games of next season. Jordan Whiting one game. First five guys must pay back somewhere between $1,000-$2,500. All eligible play in Sugar Bowl. There goes 2011. Guess Braxton Miller will be starting for half the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 I don't get it. I guess the players were more aware. Personally I actually support the suspensions but I also felt that Newton should have been suspended because I don't believe you can set the standard of a player not knowing being ok. He is very involved in the decision and I think it creates this loophole where a lot more parents will ask for money and leave there kid out of the process for their own protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 23, 2010 -> 10:53 AM) I don't get it. I guess the players were more aware. Personally I actually support the suspensions but I also felt that Newton should have been suspended because I don't believe you can set the standard of a player not knowing being ok. He is very involved in the decision and I think it creates this loophole where a lot more parents will ask for money and leave there kid out of the process for their own protection. This is the school's suspension not the NCAA. There's the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 If its true some of those guys sold their gold pants, f*** em anyway. The only real bad suspension there is Pryor although the #1 QB is coming in. The rest are replaceable by depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 (edited) So it really wasnt even because of the tats. They sold awards THEY had won while playing football. Dumbasses, but none the less it seems a bit harsh. OSU plans to appeal. Comments from the players sound like they didnt know selling their stuff was against the rules since they owned the items. A few players actually mentioned they helped their family pay bills with the cash. Not sure it thats true, but I can see where they are coming from. Edited December 23, 2010 by RockRaines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Is Pryor guaranteed to stay next year? If he goes pro(even with the CBA negotiations putting the season in doubt) he could just say "f*** you NCAA" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 23, 2010 -> 11:03 AM) So it really wasnt even because of the tats. They sold awards THEY had won while playing football. Dumbasses, but none the less it seems a bit harsh. OSU plans to appeal. Comments from the players sound like they didnt know selling their stuff was against the rules since they owned the items. A few players actually mentioned they helped their family pay bills with the cash. Not sure it thats true, but I can see where they are coming from. the school is planning to appeal its own decision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 23, 2010 -> 12:47 PM) the school is planning to appeal its own decision? The ESPN article makes it sound like these were NCAA suspensions. Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith said the school will appeal the suspensions. "While we believe sanctions should be rendered, we do believe they are severe," he said Thursday at a news conference. "We do believe we can give mitigating circumstances for the NCAA to consider." The NCAA announced the suspensions Thursday, shortly before Smith and head coach Jim Tressel were to meet with reporters to discuss the university's investigation of players trading autographs for tattoos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 If the suspensions stay, that means the bigger games they miss are @ Miami, & home vs. MSU, then Pryor's first game would be @ Nebraska. That being said, I'm sure the NCAA will reduce the suspensions to two games and they will just miss Akron & Toledo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 23, 2010 -> 01:12 PM) The ESPN article makes it sound like these were NCAA suspensions. This all happened in 2009, didn't it? So it sounds like there has already been an investigation by the NCAA and this is their suspension. I also heard them say the school plans to appeal on the radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 23, 2010 -> 11:36 AM) Is Pryor guaranteed to stay next year? If he goes pro(even with the CBA negotiations putting the season in doubt) he could just say "f*** you NCAA" He should stay, but Boom, Posey and Adams could go pro. Apparently it was NCAA sanctions so the school will appeal. Maybe they will reduce it. Who knows. Selling your championship rings and gold pants seems like a dick move to me, unless they really were paying their family's bills. Most OSu fans expected Braxton to come in and get some time early anyway, so maybe this will speed it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 I'm surprised they are allowed to play in the Sugar Bowl. If I was OSU, I'd rather them miss this meaningless game and have them come back in time for the Big 10 opener. I wonder if the NCAA is making OSU pay for some of Auburn's "crime". Someone has to be made an example of and the NCAA probably doesnt want to ruin the BCS title game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 So Cam Netwon gets paid to play football or attempts to and doesn't get any discipline, and Terrelle Pryor gets a free tatoo and gets suspended 5 games? The NCAA really has it act together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 QUOTE (zenryan @ Dec 23, 2010 -> 03:02 PM) I'm surprised they are allowed to play in the Sugar Bowl. If I was OSU, I'd rather them miss this meaningless game and have them come back in time for the Big 10 opener. I wonder if the NCAA is making OSU pay for some of Auburn's "crime". Someone has to be made an example of and the NCAA probably doesnt want to ruin the BCS title game. I think they are afraid of ruining one of their beloved BCS bowl games. It would probably upset the hell out of the sponsors as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 QUOTE (kev211 @ Dec 23, 2010 -> 02:06 PM) So Cam Netwon gets paid to play football or attempts to and doesn't get any discipline, and Terrelle Pryor gets a free tatoo and gets suspended 5 games? The NCAA really has it act together. He's actually suspended for selling items that he won and owned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 23, 2010 -> 03:45 PM) He's actually suspended for selling items that he won and owned. Same thing still applies, how is that worse then what Cam or Cam's dad did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 QUOTE (kev211 @ Dec 23, 2010 -> 04:03 PM) Same thing still applies, how is that worse then what Cam or Cam's dad did. It's not, but its against the rules. The important thing is that the program is not at fault. OSU can reload with players, its program sanction that cripple a school. We'll probably see a reduction in games on the suspension and most of those guys will go pro anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 23, 2010 -> 05:06 PM) It's not, but its against the rules. The important thing is that the program is not at fault. OSU can reload with players, its program sanction that cripple a school. We'll probably see a reduction in games on the suspension and most of those guys will go pro anyway. The problem though is that there's plenty of reason to think that the program ought to be at fault...they basically came out and said that they hadn't educated their players well enough on the rules through 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 23, 2010 -> 04:21 PM) The problem though is that there's plenty of reason to think that the program ought to be at fault...they basically came out and said that they hadn't educated their players well enough on the rules through 2009. Thats not something that requires sanctions though. And from what I understand they began a very high regulated educational program right after the incidents occurred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 23, 2010 -> 02:22 PM) Thats not something that requires sanctions though. And from what I understand they began a very high regulated educational program right after the incidents occurred. I don't know. USC got hammered because they didn't have a good enough tracking/monitoring program in relation to Reggie Bush. The NCAA really seems to be turning a blind eye on this whole Cam Newton thing in comparison to the hefty sanctions they hit USC with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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