Quin Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 QUOTE (lostfan @ Feb 13, 2010 -> 10:36 AM) Granted, your DH might not be able to play defense, but does it kill you that much to have one guy who can hit and not play the field? In the Land of Oz, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 QUOTE (lostfan @ Feb 13, 2010 -> 10:36 AM) Granted, your DH might not be able to play defense, but does it kill you that much to have one guy who can hit and not play the field? Not at all. I don't understand why anyone is against a guy who can only hit even if he is a beast at the plate. In the AL there is a position for guys who hit but don't play the field. Look at all the Frank Thomas love on this board. I don't mind the rotating DH as long as the guys DHing can hit like a guy who deserves every day playing time. I don't see where it matters that particular day if they can field or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 QUOTE (lostfan @ Feb 13, 2010 -> 11:36 AM) Granted, your DH might not be able to play defense That's why he's a designated hitter. I just don't understand what some people don't understand about that(not talking about you lost) but not signing a player to dh because he can't play the field is beyond stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Damon has done wrestling promos and appearances with AJP, right? Not that this matters but just wondering how well he knows guys on this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Feb 13, 2010 -> 11:10 AM) Damon has done wrestling promos and appearances with AJP, right? Not that this matters but just wondering how well he knows guys on this team. I believe they were high school teammates. Edited February 13, 2010 by maggsmaggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Feb 13, 2010 -> 09:17 AM) I believe they were high school teammates. Correct. Dr. Phillips High School in Orlando, iirc. Damon is 2-3 years older than AJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pktmotion Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Feb 13, 2010 -> 11:17 AM) I believe they were high school teammates. That's interesting. I always thought Damon and AJ's swing were strikingly similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 (edited) KW was on talking baseball this morning I missed the Damon talk but one point that was brought up is the rotating DH is to used to get favorable matchups. The first caller had a good point. Good teams dictate the matchups, bad teams try to make them as favorable as they can. KW said the rotating DH is used to rest guys from the field while still keeping their bats in the lineup. Edited February 13, 2010 by Jenks Heat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Feb 13, 2010 -> 09:32 AM) Interesting http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/02/john...saturday-1.html Definitely... And Felipe Lopez just fired Boras. Edited February 13, 2010 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 my bet is on a trade for fielder early in the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Feb 13, 2010 -> 02:07 PM) my bet is on a trade for fielder early in the season My gut feels the same way on this, but not sure we have the horses to pull it off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 If Detroit and the White Sox offer similar money, my bet is Damon picks the Sox. He wants to play for a bigger payday in 2011, ala Bobby Abreu. To do that, he needs to put up good numbers [the Cell would be better for him than Det.] and the larger market of Chicago would get him more publicity. If the Sox are out of it come July, he could always be moved to a contending team-which would suit the Sox and Damon [as the larger stage of the playoffs again would help him land a decent contract in 2011. If he's against a 2 year deal, it shows Damon wants to keep his 2011 open for a return to the Yanks. Signing with Det. for 2 years could be a nightmare for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everafan Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 QUOTE (beck72 @ Feb 13, 2010 -> 02:49 PM) If Detroit and the White Sox offer similar money, my bet is Damon picks the Sox. He wants to play for a bigger payday in 2011, ala Bobby Abreu. To do that, he needs to put up good numbers [the Cell would be better for him than Det.] and the larger market of Chicago would get him more publicity. If the Sox are out of it come July, he could always be moved to a contending team-which would suit the Sox and Damon [as the larger stage of the playoffs again would help him land a decent contract in 2011. If he's against a 2 year deal, it shows Damon wants to keep his 2011 open for a return to the Yanks. Signing with Det. for 2 years could be a nightmare for him. I'd love to get Damon if he was playing for a contract in 2011. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaseballNick Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 QUOTE (beck72 @ Feb 13, 2010 -> 02:49 PM) If Detroit and the White Sox offer similar money, my bet is Damon picks the Sox. He wants to play for a bigger payday in 2011, ala Bobby Abreu. To do that, he needs to put up good numbers [the Cell would be better for him than Det.] and the larger market of Chicago would get him more publicity. If the Sox are out of it come July, he could always be moved to a contending team-which would suit the Sox and Damon [as the larger stage of the playoffs again would help him land a decent contract in 2011. You do realize he just put up very good numbers in the biggest market there is, yet is trying to find a suitor for 2010? That kind of negates the whole "sign with the White Sox to get noticed" theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 You would think a guy his age would want 2 years. Also I feel like if 2 years for 14 was really on the table, the yes would have been given by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 QUOTE (BaseballNick @ Feb 13, 2010 -> 09:09 PM) You do realize he just put up very good numbers in the biggest market there is, yet is trying to find a suitor for 2010? That kind of negates the whole "sign with the White Sox to get noticed" theory. If he's not taking a 2 yr deal with Det. for what has been reported, then he's playing for 2011. That 2 yr deal with Det. could all be a smokescreen though. But if it's between Det. and Chi. for similar cash [esp. at this point, with ST right around the corner], my point holds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 (edited) I'm beginning to believe the Tigers 2-year offer is nothing more than a rumor started by Boras' people to try and create competition (and improve the offers) for Damon. I wouldn't be surprised if KW thinks the same thing. Edited February 13, 2010 by scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI1020 Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Feb 12, 2010 -> 09:16 PM) I love the rotating DH..........as long as the options are viable hitters. Jones may be but Vizquel, Kotsay and Nix are not. I'm not sure Jones is anymore either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YonderLaroche Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 (edited) I don't understand why the Yankees would want him back in 2011 if they didn't want him this year. His numbers in 09 will be hard to top. Also with the worst farm system in baseball, no way sox get AGonz or Fielder. It will really bury our system if we do, and that's even if the Pads or Brewers are interested after so many flopped Sox prospects. Edited February 13, 2010 by b-Rye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 QUOTE (b-Rye @ Feb 13, 2010 -> 03:53 PM) I don't understand why the Yankees would want him back in 2011 if they didn't want him this year. His numbers in 09 will be hard to top. Also with the worst farm system in baseball, no way sox get AGonz or Fielder. It will really bury our system if we do, and that's even if the Pads or Brewers are interested after so many flopped Sox prospects. Do we really have the worst farm system, or is that just according to Keith Law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Feb 13, 2010 -> 12:02 PM) KW was on talking baseball this morning I missed the Damon talk but one point that was brought up is the rotating DH is to used to get favorable matchups. The first caller had a good point. Good teams dictate the matchups, bad teams try to make them as favorable as they can. KW said the rotating DH is used to rest guys from the field while still keeping their bats in the lineup. " Good teams dictate the matchups, bad teams try to make them as favorable as they can." That strategy works in terms of facing a bullpen, but your starting lineup is based on who is starting against you. It is a reactionary concept. You can't force a matchup against your lineup. It's not ike the opposition has a "pinch pitcher" you are gonna force them into starting because of the card to took to the ump before first pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Feb 13, 2010 -> 04:13 PM) Do we really have the worst farm system, or is that just according to Keith Law. It doesn't matter. We have some mlb-ready or near-ready pieces that other teams want. They could care less about the overall depth of our system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 QUOTE (iamshack @ Feb 13, 2010 -> 04:15 PM) It doesn't matter. We have some mlb-ready or near-ready pieces that other teams want. They could care less about the overall depth of our system. I meant to say essentially this, but hit add reply before I did by accident. The facts are: A package that could have Flowers-Hudson-D2-Mitchell-Viciedo-Morel-Retherford (obviously not all of them) and some throw in's could match anyones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 QUOTE (scenario @ Feb 13, 2010 -> 03:21 PM) I'm beginning to believe the Tigers 2-year offer is nothing more than a rumor started by Boras' people to try and create competition (and improve the offers) for Damon. I wouldn't be surprised if KW thinks the same thing. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Feb 13, 2010 -> 04:15 PM) " Good teams dictate the matchups, bad teams try to make them as favorable as they can." That strategy works in terms of facing a bullpen, but your starting lineup is based on who is starting against you. It is a reactionary concept. You can't force a matchup against your lineup. It's not ike the opposition has a "pinch pitcher" you are gonna force them into starting because of the card to took to the ump before first pitch. Shouldn't that really be "Good pitchers dictate matchups." Most of the time, in relation to who the hitter is anyway, that is the only variable worth considering. I can think of many times when a team has shuffled a pitching rotation to get the best matchup for a team going into an important series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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