supernuke Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Enjoy Detroit Mrs. Damon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 10:10 PM) Boras has no morals whatsoever, the guy's like the African warlord of agents. This thing has been so damn messy that nobody's right anymore. None of us know anything. And GM's are in the dark as well. They don't know what offers are out there, and they do wind up "bidding against themselves" sometimes. Boras exploits that to the extreme, where he plants false "deals" and "offers" and no one knows what to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 QUOTE (supernuke @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 11:16 PM) Enjoy Detroit Mrs. Damon. He'll be in Detroit for 3 months, and after the Tigers struggle this season, he'll be traded to an AL East team for a mid-level prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 QUOTE (docsox24 @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 04:02 PM) The sox increased their offer believing it would seal the deal. Instead of dealing in good faith, Boras saw it as an opportunity and came back to try and get even more. Kenny said F you. What new. This is why we avoid dealing with Borass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 10:16 PM) It's not that easy. He's made the effort, the Padres aren't biting. Yet. I think the deal can be done right now but the Padres are asking too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Im dissappointed, but if anything it leaves the door open for a midseason blockbuster. A-Gon, Crawford are 2 HUGE names expected to be available come the trade deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 QUOTE (b-Rye @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 03:43 PM) "ESPN.com's Buster Olney hears that Scott Boras wants two things from the Tigers. First, he's asking them to remove all deferred money from the one-year $7MM deal they have offered. Second, he wants the Tigers to add a second year (Twitter links)." Boras is out of his mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 03:47 PM) I hope Kenny has a secret plan and that he thinks this will kind of force Damon's hand. That would be great playing Boras like that, I hope your right but doubt it very much. It would be better if AJ walked over with a cocktail and said what the hell is your agent doing? We had this thing all worked out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Ugh. My sister-in-law went to the same law school as Boras, apparently the Cubs paid for his education since he suffered a career ending injury in their farm system. Darn Cubs. If I'm Kenny, I go to the Padres and get a deal done for AGon now. Going into the season with this big a hole is idiocy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Well, I'm hugely disappointed in the DH situation. That said, if KW really did keep ratcheting up, to like $6M, and Boras kept playing him... its hard to be that pissed about him walking away. Also, I would not be surprised, knowing KW's style, if he immediately hit the phones to make some other deal that none of us had even considered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 11:21 PM) If I'm Kenny, I go to the Padres and get a deal done for AGon now. Going into the season with this big a hole is idiocy. Going into the season with literally no valuable prospects and no payroll flexibility is even dumber. I love AGon, but I just don't see him as a fit for this organization over the next 5 years due to his impending huge contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 05:24 PM) Going into the season with literally no valuable prospects and no payroll flexibility is even dumber. I love AGon, but I just don't see him as a fit for this organization over the next 5 years due to his impending huge contract. You really don't see one of the best 1b's in all of baseball fitting into this organization? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 10:25 PM) You really don't see one of the best 1b's in all of baseball fitting into this organization? Not for what it would cost to get him, and then the impact that his possible 17-20 million dollar a year extension would have on bringing keeping the core here during their peak years (Floyd, Danks, Quentin, Beckham, Ramirez, Rios) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 04:24 PM) Going into the season with literally no valuable prospects and no payroll flexibility is even dumber. I love AGon, but I just don't see him as a fit for this organization over the next 5 years due to his impending huge contract. Konerko and AJ are both off the books next year. That is $18 million right there that can be used towards an AGon extension. Edited February 19, 2010 by GreatScott82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Also, as the latest Damon stuff is showing, having valuable prospects is so important for our organization because KW, etc. just don't get into negotiation wars for players. Never have, seemingly never will. The only way we bring in marquee players, besides via the draft, is via trades (or our Cuban connection). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 04:21 PM) Ugh. My sister-in-law went to the same law school as Boras, apparently the Cubs paid for his education since he suffered a career ending injury in their farm system. Darn Cubs. If I'm Kenny, I go to the Padres and get a deal done for AGon now. Going into the season with this big a hole is idiocy. The Cubs are to blame for everything, it's official. I bet we all wish that Boras failed all his classes in that law school now. Baseball would be so much better without him. Edited February 19, 2010 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 10:28 PM) Konerko and AJ are both off the books next year. That is $18 million right there that can be used towards an AGon extension. Who catches if Flowers is part of the trade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 QUOTE (quickman @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 11:20 PM) That would be great playing Boras like that, I hope your right but doubt it very much. It would be better if AJ walked over with a cocktail and said what the hell is your agent doing? We had this thing all worked out! It's also a reflection of Damon, though. He has to know Boras is pissing on the legs of the only 2 organizations left wanting him. He's got to man up and say "Let's get this soap opera over and strike a deal". Boras is now acting like it's the Tigers and sox fault Damon didn't get his $10+ mill. deal and Damon is a party to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 QUOTE (striker @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 11:29 PM) Who catches if Flowers is part of the trade? We'd probably bring back AJP, to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 QUOTE (striker @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 05:29 PM) Who catches if Flowers is part of the trade? You resign AJ. Or you explore the open market, and wait for Phegley or M-Gon in two to three years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 QUOTE (beck72 @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 11:30 PM) It's also a reflection of Damon, though. He has to know Boras is pissing on the legs of the only 2 organizations left wanting him. He's got to man up and say "Let's get this soap opera over and strike a deal". Boras is now acting like it's the Tigers and sox fault Damon didn't get his $10+ mill. deal and Damon is a party to it. I'll say this if we sign him or if we don't, but Damon is a piece of crap. I've heard a lot of stories about him outside of baseball, and he deserves to have Boras representing him and his image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk23 Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 (edited) ^^^ Word is that the caveman image is more than just his looks. QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 11:20 PM) Im dissappointed, but if anything it leaves the door open for a midseason blockbuster. A-Gon, Crawford are 2 HUGE names expected to be available come the trade deadline. With how bad this offense is looking to be, it's unlikely that the Sox will be in a position to make a marquee trade. I'd rather not wait until midseason to fix a hole that's been apparent since the get go. Edited February 19, 2010 by chunk23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 04:29 PM) The Cubs are to blame for everything, it's official. I bet we all wish that Boras failed all his classes in that law school now. Baseball would be so much better without him. Ugh, apparently, he is somewhat worshiped there. My sister-in-law, like any good Sox fan, hates it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 04:24 PM) Going into the season with literally no valuable prospects and no payroll flexibility is even dumber. I love AGon, but I just don't see him as a fit for this organization over the next 5 years due to his impending huge contract. seriously? The guy is a force from the left side and solves your replacement for konerko for the next 5-10 years. Konerko comes off the books next year as well as others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 QUOTE (chunk23 @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 11:32 PM) With how bad this offense is looking to be, it's unlikely that the Sox will be in a position to make a marquee trade. I'd rather not wait until midseason to fix a hole that's been apparent since the get go. One thing that worries me about going into the season with a huge hole at DH is the likelihood that Alexei gets out of the gate looking awful again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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