JPN366 Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Feb 8, 2010 -> 03:13 PM) *cough* I was echoing your sentiment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Feb 8, 2010 -> 03:14 PM) Peggy Olson. I haven't seen season 3 yet, but I don't think she is that ambiguous as much as I've seen. Just trying to make her way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 I haven't seen season 3 yet, but I don't think she is that ambiguous as much as I've seen. Just trying to make her way. By sleeping with Peter Campbell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Feb 8, 2010 -> 03:17 PM) By sleeping with Peter Campbell? He wasn't married at the time. She was influenced by her new environment. Plus, their relationship is based on the fact that Peggy is not as complicated and high maintenance as Trudy. Edited February 8, 2010 by JPN366 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 He wasn't married at the time. There was a second time when they both arrived early to the office after he came back from his honeymoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Feb 8, 2010 -> 03:19 PM) There was a second time when they both arrived early to the office after he came back from his honeymoon. That was more about giving into temptation based on previous experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 (edited) That was more about giving into temptation based on previous experience. That's some morally ambiguous s*** if you ask me. edit- in response to you post. Edited February 8, 2010 by DukeNukeEm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Feb 8, 2010 -> 03:23 PM) That's some morally ambiguous s*** if you ask me. I'm not saying it was right, but that's a far stretch to get to morally ambiguous as a whole. "Mad Men" overall is dark and lacking moral characters. Everybody on the show is flawed in some way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 I expected that priest to make a pass at Peggy, if that tells you what that show's tone is like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 It's not far fetched to say that Peggy is the conscious of the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 It's not far fetched to say that Peggy is the conscious of the show. To me its Cooper, but I've only seen Season 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Feb 8, 2010 -> 03:35 PM) To me its Cooper, but I've only seen Season 1. In my opinion, to define someone as morally ambiguous there has to be a consistent pattern of behavior. Vic Mackey from "The Shield" was that way for 7 seasons. Peggy Olson from "Mad Men" is just human and makes mistakes. Bert Cooper is just an old business man who likes to pull the strings. Edited February 8, 2010 by JPN366 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 Frank Castle/Punisher I think he's the definition of moral ambiguity in pop culture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 I can't imagine any better examples than Dexter and Mackey. Great calls right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gooch Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 The Boondocks Saints are a good example as well, but if I was going to pick just one I would go with Vic Mackey from the Shield. Might take a lot of tv watching to pick the right episode(s) to show though, considering there were 7 seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxy Posted February 8, 2010 Author Share Posted February 8, 2010 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Feb 8, 2010 -> 04:12 PM) Howard Roark Oh man! I do not have the balls to make a bunch of 18 year olds read Ayn Rand! I think there would be mutiny! Thank you all for your suggestions--and please keep them coming. Throughout the latter 2/3 of the semester we'll be reading and watching stuff to discuss what makes a monster, what can redeem a monster. So, we're going to be doing lots of critical thinking and playing devil's advocate. The final (class) project will to put a "monster" on trial and have a little mock trial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 Dexter Morgan from the show "Dexter". It's PERFECT. Some of the monologues in seasons 1 and 2 actually delve into what you're talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEdWalsh Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 How about Travis Bickle in Taxi Driver? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 Every single character on Joss Whedon's Dollhouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 Robin Hood? Eh? Eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Feb 8, 2010 -> 05:26 PM) Every single character on Joss Whedon's Dollhouse, Buffy, Angel, or Firefly. Added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 Dr. Horrible and Captain Hammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshot7 Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 Hannibal Lecter lots of noir characters. Double Indemnity, Sunset Blvd, LA Confidential, Mike Hammer, etc..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 Robin Hood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 Han Solo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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