Official 2010-11 NFL Thread

[GoSox05]

I love watching the Vikings fall apart.

Edited November 1, 2010 by GoSox05

[Jenksismyhero]

You'd be nuts not to... it's not his fault Brett Favre can't throw. Moss is STILL an elite talent. Honestly, Jay Cutler should be texting JA right now demanding that Moss be signed and featured in Mike Martz' offense. It's not like Martz uses receivers to block ever.

 

What are you smoking? Did you watch the Patriots-Vikes game? Did you see him get jammed EVERY play and then just quit? If he was an "elite" talent New England wouldn't have traded him. He sucks now. He can still make a spectacular catch here and there, but he doesn't run routes very well, he gives up on nearly every play unless he gets the ball, and he refuses to block anyone seriously. If Brady and Favre can't "get" him the ball, who can?

[Kyyle23]

What are you smoking? Did you watch the Patriots-Vikes game? Did you see him get jammed EVERY play and then just quit? If he was an "elite" talent New England wouldn't have traded him. He sucks now. He can still make a spectacular catch here and there, but he doesn't run routes very well, he gives up on nearly every play unless he gets the ball, and he refuses to block anyone seriously. If Brady and Favre can't "get" him the ball, who can?

 

 

eh, Randy has always had the reputation of not running routes well and quitting on plays. The deal with him has always been getting him motivated

[Controlled Chaos]

eh, Randy has always had the reputation of not running routes well and quitting on plays. The deal with him has always been getting him motivated

Sweet...that's the one thing we're good at.

 

[Chisoxfn]

I'd take him. I don't think hester is a wide-out so that leaves us with Bennett and Knox as of this point in time (since DA doesn't play much). I want to see what Jay can do with an above average wideout and Moss is still that. Plus it is only for a year.

[Steve9347]

That took a long time.

According to the Chicago Tribune, the Bears are "unlikely" to make a run at Randy Moss on waivers.

Maybe if Moss could pass protect. According to the Tribune's Dan Pompei, the Bears "like their top receivers" and "don't need to bring in a troublemaker at midseason."

[Kyyle23]

lets not act surprised. The bears always like their guys better than top available guys

[Harry Chappas]

They will pick up that Grant fellow and cut him two weeks later but yet will not a take a flyer here??????

 

Fools, all of them.

Edited November 1, 2010 by Jenks Heat

[Chi Town Sox]

now they are saying Childress never addressed this with upper management before telling his players that he was released LOL

[lostfan]

Moss doesn't really do s*** but run fly and post routes... hell, Martz loves those

[DukeNukeEm]

The Bears are inept, Randy Moss doesn't play well on inept teams.

[DBAHO]

now they are saying Childress never addressed this with upper management before telling his players that he was released LOL

Yep Childress is on real shaky ground right now.

 

Either Dungy or Leslie Frazier to coach that team next season for sure.

[iamshack]

Who do you guys like in tonight's game?

 

Everyone seems to be buying into the Texans keeping it close once again....I think the Colts are going to manhandle them...Colts 34-21

[lostfan]

Yep Childress is on real shaky ground right now.

 

Either Dungy or Leslie Frazier to coach that team next season for sure.

I doubt if Dungy is interested in coaching

[Chisoxfn]

Texans

[SoxFanForever]

Gruden may be one of the worst announcers of all time.

[zenryan]

I doubt if Dungy is interested in coaching

 

 

Totally agree. I think he is one of the few who really meant it when he retired. Good for him.

[Steve9347]

Totally agree. I think he is one of the few who really meant it when he retired. Good for him.

He's entertaining on NBC, too.

[LittleHurt05]

He's entertaining on NBC, too.

 

Ugh, I cannot f***ing stand him. Especially with his holier than thou attitude, get off your high horse son.

[Steve9347]

Ugh, I cannot f***ing stand him. Especially with his holier than thou attitude, get off your high horse son.

I think you might just be projecting the "holier than thou" upon him given his reputation. He's paid to give his opinion, and it's normally insightful and accurate.

[LittleHurt05]

I think you might just be projecting the "holier than thou" upon him given his reputation. He's paid to give his opinion, and it's normally insightful and accurate.

 

Yeah, you are probably right. His reputation definitely precedes him whenever I see him on TV, but oh well.

 

Anyway, I found this intersting Yahoo article on Moss:

 

When Minnesota Vikings coach Brad Childress told his players Monday afternoon that Randy Moss would be released because “we want good people that are good football players, and this just doesn’t fit,” several of them nodded their approval. Though Childress isn’t especially popular in the locker room, some Vikings were on board with his decision to move on without Moss four weeks after the polarizing wideout was reacquired in a trade with the New England Patriots.

 

Even before Sunday’s surreal address to the media following the Vikings’ 28-18 defeat to the Patriots at Gillette Stadium – during which he questioned Childress’ leadership while effusively praising his former coach, Bill Belichick, and the Patriots’ organization – Moss had alienated some of his teammates with his brash, entitled behavior, most glaringly in an incident that occurred in the team’s locker room last Friday afternoon, Yahoo! Sports has learned.

 

As is the team’s custom on Fridays, a local food establishment was invited to the training facility to serve a catered, post-practice meal in the locker room. In this case, a St. Paul restaurant that is a favorite of former Vikings center Matt Birk(notes). As the proprietors helped serve chicken, ribs, pasta and other dishes to Vikings players, Moss paced up and down the serving line and loudly expressed his displeasure with the offerings.

According to one player who witnessed the scene, Moss yelled, “What the [expletive]? Who ordered this crap? I wouldn’t feed this to my dog!”

 

Said the witness: “It was brutal. The truth is, he deserved to be cut after that. It was such an uncomfortable moment. You know that feeling where you just can tell someone feels so small? That’s what it was like being there.

 

“This wasn’t a chain – it was a mom-and-pop restaurant, and you could tell it was their best stuff. They had a special carving station set up, and there were players and other support staff lining up to eat it. And [Moss] is at his locker saying, ‘You know, I used to have to eat that crap – but now I’ve got money.’ You just felt so sad for them. I had never seen anyone treated like that.

 

“And by the way, the food was actually really good.”

 

While Moss had his share of supporters in the locker room, some Vikings had grown disillusioned with his attitude. From the receiver’s uneven effort in practice to his displays of self-centeredness off the field, some veterans believed Moss was becoming a bad influence to young players like second-year wideout Percy Harvin(notes).

 

There was also locker room speculation about Moss’ effort – or lack thereof – on two plays in recent games. With the Vikes facing a last-gasp fourth-down pass in a 28-24 defeat to the Packers in Green Bay two Sundays ago, quarterback Brett Favre(notes) threw a high pass in the back of the end zone that sailed over Moss’ head, though it didn’t appear as though the receiver made an effort to jump for the ball.

 

In Sunday’s game against the Patriots, with the Vikings trailing by 10 midway through the fourth quarter, Moss drew a pass-interference penalty on Patriots safety Brandon Meriweather(notes) while streaking down the left sideline. It appeared as though Moss might have been able to catch the pass for a touchdown after the penalty occurred but that he broke off the route once the flag was thrown.

 

The Vikings got the ball at the New England 9 and scored four plays later, though not before Favre sustained a lacerated chin that knocked him from the game.

 

Most of all, however, Moss’ treatment of the restauranteurs in the locker room convinced some teammates that he wasn’t worth the trouble. Since becoming the Vikings’ coach in 2006, Childress has consistently preached that he wants “good people who are good football players,” and Moss clearly didn’t seem to be projecting himself as someone who fits in the former category.

 

When Childress, according to one person in Monday’s meeting, said of Moss, “This just doesn’t fit with how we treat people, how we talk to people and how we act,” it was clear that he was referring to the incident that occurred last Friday. Sunday’s stream-of-consciousness statement to the media only reinforced the internal perception that Moss was going out of his way to disrespect the organization.

 

With all of that said, Childress still has major credibility issues with his players, most of whom side with Favre in his ongoing clash with the coach. And there’s no guarantee Childress will stay the coach for the remainder of the season. However, his decision to part ways with Moss was, for some, viewed as an understandable consequence of the receiver’s behavior.

[Steve9347]

Nice find.

 

In Sunday’s game against the Patriots, with the Vikings trailing by 10 midway through the fourth quarter, Moss drew a pass-interference penalty on Patriots safety Brandon Meriweather(notes) while streaking down the left sideline. It appeared as though Moss might have been able to catch the pass for a touchdown after the penalty occurred but that he broke off the route once the flag was thrown.

 

I can vouch for this. I was watching the game, and he didn't even break off the route. All he had to do was reach toward the ball, it literally landed within a foot of him.

 

 

I can deal with some of the bulls***, but treating people like that (the restaurant owners), well, I'm glad I read that. Moss can take a hike.

[MexSoxFan#1]

Gruden may be one of the worst announcers of all time.

 

 

He is Al Michaels compared to Mike and Mike, now those guys SUCK.

[StrangeSox]

Nice find.

 

 

 

I can vouch for this. I was watching the game, and he didn't even break off the route. All he had to do was reach toward the ball, it literally landed within a foot of him.

 

 

I can deal with some of the bulls***, but treating people like that (the restaurant owners), well, I'm glad I read that. Moss can take a hike.

 

I thought that as well, seemed odd but the announcers didn't comment.

[Leonard Zelig]

He is Al Michaels compared to Mike and Mike, now those guys SUCK.

 

What game did you hear them announce?