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Sweeney, because we could get away with his playing CF (especially with Pierre and healthy Quentin on both sides), he's very affordable and it would have saved the questionable Rios acquisition.

 

Using the Rios money, we wouldn't be having a discussion about the affordability of Damon, we could use the "surplus" to improve the bullpen and/or provide more depth to the back end of the rotation (although Hudson's a great alternative).

 

For the minor leaguers, you have to go w/ C. Carter.

 

Sweeney/Damon/RH bullpen help OR fifth starter (like a Maya type) >>> Alex Rios/Kotsay/Jones

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QUOTE (IamPabloOzuna @ Feb 18, 2010 -> 07:38 AM)
Albert Belle circa 1998. I don't care if its more than 5 years ago.

 

BA: .328

OBP: .399

SLG: .655 (1st in MLB)

HR: 49

RBI: 152

R: 113

 

He had like 50 doubles that year too. Incredible.

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QUOTE (IamPabloOzuna @ Feb 17, 2010 -> 10:38 PM)
Albert Belle circa 1998. I don't care if its more than 5 years ago.

 

BA: .328

OBP: .399

SLG: .655 (1st in MLB)

HR: 49

RBI: 152

R: 113

 

He was very good the following year, but his degenerative hip reduced him to an average LF in 2000 and he was out of baseball the following year. I'm glad that JR put that "out" clause in his contract, as Belle ended up voiding his Sox contract and got a new 5/$65M deal from Baltimore after the '98 season. The Orioles' insurance picked up the final three years of that deal, but I can't imagine that they were happy with Belle taking up a spot on the 40-man roster for those three years as a condition of the insurance policy.

 

His '98 season was amazing, though. Especially considering how poorly he hit in April and May.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 17, 2010 -> 11:04 PM)
Sweeney, because we could get away with his playing CF (especially with Pierre and healthy Quentin on both sides), he's very affordable and it would have saved the questionable Rios acquisition.

 

Using the Rios money, we wouldn't be having a discussion about the affordability of Damon, we could use the "surplus" to improve the bullpen and/or provide more depth to the back end of the rotation (although Hudson's a great alternative).

 

For the minor leaguers, you have to go w/ C. Carter.

 

Sweeney/Damon/RH bullpen help OR fifth starter (like a Maya type) >>> Alex Rios/Kotsay/Jones

I think the point is more about who you would want now, not what moves you could go back in time and erase. If that were the case you may as well just go back in time and erase the whole Swisher trade.

 

People are putting way too much stock in Rios' month and a half here or whatever it was and not enough stock in his physical talent and his past career successes. I have no idea why some people here can think Mark Teahen is just going to go off here meanwhile Rios is a huge red flag. Rios is about 10X the player Teahen is and he always will be.

 

And also, if we never did claim Rios, we'd have probably spent that money on Chone Figgins. My guess would be Figgins at third with Pierre in CF (ugh) because Pierre was always one those players that I think we all knew we'd one day end up with.

 

The Damon/financial/$0.50 issue is only a product of Kenny's vision this offseason, which had the DH/big lefty bat as the last hole on the team to fill instead of the primary one. We had enough for one of Matsui/Johnson, or even a Thome/Dye or Vlad platoon as opposed to a Kotsay/Jones platoon, but improvement there obviously wasn't a major priority.

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QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Feb 18, 2010 -> 01:04 PM)
I think the point is more about who you would want now, not what moves you could go back in time and erase. If that were the case you may as well just go back in time and erase the whole Swisher trade.

 

People are putting way too much stock in Rios' month and a half here or whatever it was and not enough stock in his physical talent and his past career successes. I have no idea why some people here can think Mark Teahen is just going to go off here meanwhile Rios is a huge red flag. Rios is about 10X the player Teahen is and he always will be.

 

And also, if we never did claim Rios, we'd have probably spent that money on Chone Figgins. My guess would be Figgins at third with Pierre in CF (ugh) because Pierre was always one those players that I think we all knew we'd one day end up with.

 

The Damon/financial/$0.50 issue is only a product of Kenny's vision this offseason, which had the DH/big lefty bat as the last hole on the team to fill instead of the primary one. We had enough for one of Matsui/Johnson, or even a Thome/Dye or Vlad platoon as opposed to a Kotsay/Jones platoon, but improvement there obviously wasn't a major priority.

 

What I don't understand is where this seemingly arbitrary figure of $4 million that we supposedly have available came from...Scott Merkin?

 

Because there was the contradictory quote that we have the resources to add an "impact" player if we needed to at some point (reading between the lines, at mid-season, so the salary hit wouldn't be as large I suppose).

 

It just doesn't make any sense to lose Damon to the Tigers over $1-2 million. I could see if the difference was $3-5 million, then you pass. But I think while he's not a superstar (and never really was), he would be a significant addition that would make everyone feel a lot more comfortable, and it would take a lot of the pressure off the likes of Beckham, Quentin and Konerko...not to mention Jones or Kotsay will start pressing as well if the offense is struggling in April/May to produce runs and either one start off the season like Dye in 2005, BA in 2006 or Alexei the last two seasons, the media will start hammering both them and KW...just like the CF situation last year when Wise was getting booed the first week as leadoff hitter.

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Rowand. We haven't exactly replaced him with anything better than Aaron himself.

Rios has a chance to shut up we Rowand lovers forever. It's now or never for 29-year-old Rios. He's with a contending team in a city that demands performance.

If Rios has what it takes, he'll show it this year.

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If Carlos Lee counts then him for sure. Other than that I really dont miss anyone from the past 5 years... I will take my chances with Rios over Rowand. How about DJ Carrasco. I miss him already. I also liked Mackowiak as a player. Thought he got put in a bad position (literally) here.

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