rottenspinner Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 (edited) I would definitely want Nick Swisher back. Miss him dearly. Edited February 18, 2010 by rottenspinner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 (edited) Sweeney, because we could get away with his playing CF (especially with Pierre and healthy Quentin on both sides), he's very affordable and it would have saved the questionable Rios acquisition. Using the Rios money, we wouldn't be having a discussion about the affordability of Damon, we could use the "surplus" to improve the bullpen and/or provide more depth to the back end of the rotation (although Hudson's a great alternative). For the minor leaguers, you have to go w/ C. Carter. Sweeney/Damon/RH bullpen help OR fifth starter (like a Maya type) >>> Alex Rios/Kotsay/Jones Edited February 18, 2010 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamPabloOzuna Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Albert Belle circa 1998. I don't care if its more than 5 years ago. BA: .328 OBP: .399 SLG: .655 (1st in MLB) HR: 49 RBI: 152 R: 113 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 I guess I looked at the question in terms of players who were actually still active. Of course, Frank Thomas (in his 90's prime) or Shoeless Joe Jackson would be the picks then, and I've love to watched Fox and Aparicio play together in their primes, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZPride08 Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Joe Crede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakervin Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 i want dick allen back,he could dh play some first base,those were the days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Cliff Polite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 QUOTE (IamPabloOzuna @ Feb 18, 2010 -> 07:38 AM) Albert Belle circa 1998. I don't care if its more than 5 years ago. BA: .328 OBP: .399 SLG: .655 (1st in MLB) HR: 49 RBI: 152 R: 113 He had like 50 doubles that year too. Incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Feb 18, 2010 -> 08:41 AM) Cliff Polite. 2005 Cliff Politte??? Yes, please. It still amazes me to this day that in 2005 our two set-up men with sub-2.00 ERAs were Cliff Politte & Neal Cotts...They do say you gotta get lucky to win a WS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Tony LaRussa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (IamPabloOzuna @ Feb 17, 2010 -> 10:38 PM) Albert Belle circa 1998. I don't care if its more than 5 years ago. BA: .328 OBP: .399 SLG: .655 (1st in MLB) HR: 49 RBI: 152 R: 113 He was very good the following year, but his degenerative hip reduced him to an average LF in 2000 and he was out of baseball the following year. I'm glad that JR put that "out" clause in his contract, as Belle ended up voiding his Sox contract and got a new 5/$65M deal from Baltimore after the '98 season. The Orioles' insurance picked up the final three years of that deal, but I can't imagine that they were happy with Belle taking up a spot on the 40-man roster for those three years as a condition of the insurance policy. His '98 season was amazing, though. Especially considering how poorly he hit in April and May. Edited February 18, 2010 by WCSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 17, 2010 -> 11:04 PM) Sweeney, because we could get away with his playing CF (especially with Pierre and healthy Quentin on both sides), he's very affordable and it would have saved the questionable Rios acquisition. Using the Rios money, we wouldn't be having a discussion about the affordability of Damon, we could use the "surplus" to improve the bullpen and/or provide more depth to the back end of the rotation (although Hudson's a great alternative). For the minor leaguers, you have to go w/ C. Carter. Sweeney/Damon/RH bullpen help OR fifth starter (like a Maya type) >>> Alex Rios/Kotsay/Jones I think the point is more about who you would want now, not what moves you could go back in time and erase. If that were the case you may as well just go back in time and erase the whole Swisher trade. People are putting way too much stock in Rios' month and a half here or whatever it was and not enough stock in his physical talent and his past career successes. I have no idea why some people here can think Mark Teahen is just going to go off here meanwhile Rios is a huge red flag. Rios is about 10X the player Teahen is and he always will be. And also, if we never did claim Rios, we'd have probably spent that money on Chone Figgins. My guess would be Figgins at third with Pierre in CF (ugh) because Pierre was always one those players that I think we all knew we'd one day end up with. The Damon/financial/$0.50 issue is only a product of Kenny's vision this offseason, which had the DH/big lefty bat as the last hole on the team to fill instead of the primary one. We had enough for one of Matsui/Johnson, or even a Thome/Dye or Vlad platoon as opposed to a Kotsay/Jones platoon, but improvement there obviously wasn't a major priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan-kwman Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Aaron Rowand...Pablo Ozuna too!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baines3 Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 I would have to say Aaron Rowand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Game 4 of the 2005 World Series is on MLB Network right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makrouse Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Rowand, for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 (edited) Jon Garland...just so we can have 3/5 of our 2005 pitching rotation...and bring in the Count during the season in a trade and we'd be set for another run! Edited February 18, 2010 by MexSoxFan#1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 I don't think people realize just how bad Aaron Rowand really is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxPride56 Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Rowand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Feb 18, 2010 -> 06:54 PM) I don't think people realize just how bad Aaron Rowand really is. This. Hey! I did a "This."! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Feb 18, 2010 -> 01:04 PM) I think the point is more about who you would want now, not what moves you could go back in time and erase. If that were the case you may as well just go back in time and erase the whole Swisher trade. People are putting way too much stock in Rios' month and a half here or whatever it was and not enough stock in his physical talent and his past career successes. I have no idea why some people here can think Mark Teahen is just going to go off here meanwhile Rios is a huge red flag. Rios is about 10X the player Teahen is and he always will be. And also, if we never did claim Rios, we'd have probably spent that money on Chone Figgins. My guess would be Figgins at third with Pierre in CF (ugh) because Pierre was always one those players that I think we all knew we'd one day end up with. The Damon/financial/$0.50 issue is only a product of Kenny's vision this offseason, which had the DH/big lefty bat as the last hole on the team to fill instead of the primary one. We had enough for one of Matsui/Johnson, or even a Thome/Dye or Vlad platoon as opposed to a Kotsay/Jones platoon, but improvement there obviously wasn't a major priority. What I don't understand is where this seemingly arbitrary figure of $4 million that we supposedly have available came from...Scott Merkin? Because there was the contradictory quote that we have the resources to add an "impact" player if we needed to at some point (reading between the lines, at mid-season, so the salary hit wouldn't be as large I suppose). It just doesn't make any sense to lose Damon to the Tigers over $1-2 million. I could see if the difference was $3-5 million, then you pass. But I think while he's not a superstar (and never really was), he would be a significant addition that would make everyone feel a lot more comfortable, and it would take a lot of the pressure off the likes of Beckham, Quentin and Konerko...not to mention Jones or Kotsay will start pressing as well if the offense is struggling in April/May to produce runs and either one start off the season like Dye in 2005, BA in 2006 or Alexei the last two seasons, the media will start hammering both them and KW...just like the CF situation last year when Wise was getting booed the first week as leadoff hitter. Edited February 19, 2010 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Rowand. We haven't exactly replaced him with anything better than Aaron himself. Rios has a chance to shut up we Rowand lovers forever. It's now or never for 29-year-old Rios. He's with a contending team in a city that demands performance. If Rios has what it takes, he'll show it this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted February 19, 2010 Author Share Posted February 19, 2010 I would rather have Ryan Sweeney back over Rowand. The love for Rowand confuses me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan3530 Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 If Carlos Lee counts then him for sure. Other than that I really dont miss anyone from the past 5 years... I will take my chances with Rios over Rowand. How about DJ Carrasco. I miss him already. I also liked Mackowiak as a player. Thought he got put in a bad position (literally) here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 I just realized... I'd rather bring back Walter Hriniak out of anyone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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