ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (SoxAce @ Mar 26, 2010 -> 10:43 PM) Buehrle, Jenks and Peavy said the same thing about not caring they got shelled. What matters to them is that they feel good (health wise, mechanics, location, etc..) even after a 6 ER effort. That's why I was telling people not to get freaked out on Mark Teahen yet, who I was more or less looking at his defense at 3B more-so than his at-bats (not to mention the ridiculous bad luck he's been getting so far) I doubt Buehrle, Jenks, and Peavy all said they don't care about Spring Training. That's different then saying they don't pay attention to the results or the boxscore. But I bet you anything they care about spring training because it gives them the chance to get their work in vs. live hitting, work on certain pitches, get their arms in shape, ect. So maybe jphat misquoted him and meant to say that Freddy doesn't care about the game results (which is normal), but if not, then Freddy sounds like Brett Favre and his "I am too good for spring training/mini camp" attitude. Edited March 27, 2010 by JoeCoolMan24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Mar 26, 2010 -> 09:53 PM) So maybe jphat misquoted him and meant to say that Freddy doesn't care about the game results (which is normal) You would be correct. Though some players have said they would prefer shorter ST times. Gavin Floyd was ready to go 2 weeks ago. Edited March 27, 2010 by SoxAce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Mar 26, 2010 -> 11:04 PM) You would be correct. Though some players have said they would prefer shorter ST times. Gavin Floyd was ready to go 2 weeks ago. I agree that ST should be shorter as well. Cut about a week off and start the season the last week of March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Mar 26, 2010 -> 05:22 PM) You should have been worried about the offense before spring training even started and even if you do put stock into Spring performance; 2 of the biggest question marks in the lineup have been our 2 most productive players. The issue is that even with the two questions marks working out are offense is still struggling. I'm not saying this is anything damning, it is spring after all, but no one really expects our offense to be that impressive in the regular season anyway, so the spring struggles seem to reinforce that theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 The issue is that even with the two questions marks working out are offense is still struggling. I'm not saying this is anything damning, it is spring after all, but no one really expects our offense to be that impressive in the regular season anyway, so the spring struggles seem to reinforce that theory. TB, I'm no expert but shouldn't the offense perform historically in better weather? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatnom Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 Let's not forget that Freddy is a breaking ball pitcher as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Mar 26, 2010 -> 11:04 PM) You would be correct. Though some players have said they would prefer shorter ST times. Gavin Floyd was ready to go 2 weeks ago. I'm sure most would like shorter spring training, just like most in the NFL would like a shorter training camp. Some guys need it. Especially guys coming off injury. I would be though if it was shorter, they would like it to start later, not start the regualar season sooner. If they started sooner, chances are there would be a lot more doubleheaders later in the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxrwhite Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 I understand what an established pitcher tries to accomplish in spring training. It's just uncomfortable as a fan watching your whole starting staff get hit so hard so often. You can't wipe away a career of success because of a spring training. The Sox have five established staters with a rook in the wings. It's a long season and barring excessive injury we should prevail in the long run. Nothing like a pennant race down the stretch. Lets hope we are part of and victors of one. Strap it on and hunker down boys we are almost there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 QUOTE (chisoxfan09 @ Mar 27, 2010 -> 03:03 AM) TB, I'm no expert but shouldn't the offense perform historically in better weather? They're playing in Arizona, now. Not sure i see a direct correlation but normally offenses do perform better in spring, mostly becasue of the the quality of pitchers they're hitting against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 They're playing in Arizona, now. Not sure i see a direct correlation but normally offenses do perform better in spring, mostly becasue of the the quality of pitchers they're hitting against. TB, I think you were out at ST just a couple of weeks ago. I wanted to ask but maybe in general to the whole forum instead of whining about every other thing if the Sox are playing the kind of mixed smallball and defense that Ozzie claims this new lineup will produce? Apart from the obvious strong point we have with the starting rotation, have we seen anything this ST that will convince us that Ozzie is on the right track with the lineup when it come sto smarter baseball, run producing, hitting, and defense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 Apparently the season really needs to start because people are freaking out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Mar 27, 2010 -> 03:15 PM) Apparently the season really needs to start because people are freaking out. Nah... they're just practicing freaking out... building up their stamina... working on their freak-out techniques. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Mar 27, 2010 -> 03:15 PM) Apparently the season really needs to start because people are freaking out. Really it is just the spring training for the fans who are getting into midseason freak out form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattZakrowski Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 27, 2010 -> 04:21 PM) Really it is just the spring training for the fans who are getting into midseason freak out form. But I don't think fans today need such an extensive spring training to get ready. I've been freaking out abut the DH situation on my own since January. I've been freaking out about giving a terrible hitter the most PAs on the team since December. Needless to say, I'm ready for the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Mar 27, 2010 -> 02:15 PM) Apparently the season really needs to start because people are freaking out. It's just amazing to me that people do it year after year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Mar 27, 2010 -> 03:15 PM) Apparently the season really needs to start because people are freaking out. I would love the season to start because i am sick of the lack of conversation... and when there is any it is generally terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 QUOTE (scenario @ Mar 27, 2010 -> 04:20 PM) Nah... they're just practicing freaking out... building up their stamina... working on their freak-out techniques. Speaking for myself, i can say that's true. I've got this really good Fire Ozzie tirade worked out for our first loss. Not to mention i have specific Linebrink, Pierre, and Kotsay segments worked out for later in the year. No Quentin stuff though yet. That'll catch me off guard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 Jake Peavy vs Reds AAA team: 7 IP, 7 ER, 12 hits, 4 Ks, 1 BB 112 pitches...that deserves a wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 QUOTE (MattZakrowski @ Mar 27, 2010 -> 03:28 PM) But I don't think fans today need such an extensive spring training to get ready. I've been freaking out abut the DH situation on my own since January. I've been freaking out about giving a terrible hitter the most PAs on the team since December. Needless to say, I'm ready for the season. Well it wasn't like that back in my day. We went home and worked during the winter, unlike these overpaid fans of toady. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 Teahen up to .256. From where he was, I'd say that's a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 27, 2010 -> 05:08 PM) Jake Peavy vs Reds AAA team: 7 IP, 7 ER, 12 hits, 4 Ks, 1 BB 112 pitches...that deserves a wow. What, are you serious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 27, 2010 -> 05:08 PM) Jake Peavy vs Reds AAA team: 7 IP, 7 ER, 12 hits, 4 Ks, 1 BB 112 pitches...that deserves a wow. Was he throwing his full arsenal or was he just having a bad day? I wouldn't freak out... Bartolo Colon and Jose Contreras threw shutouts before the end of spring training last year. Look what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Mar 27, 2010 -> 05:41 PM) Was he throwing his full arsenal or was he just having a bad day? I wouldn't freak out... Bartolo Colon and Jose Contreras threw shutouts before the end of spring training last year. Look what happened. I think the fact that he threw 112 pitches is the most alarming thing, not the fact he got hit around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 27, 2010 -> 05:17 PM) Teahen up to .256. From where he was, I'd say that's a good thing. He hit .433 with a 1.360 OPS last spring and he was poor when it counted. Spring numbers mean squat. Hopefully Walker has him doing something that will translate to hits when it matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Mar 27, 2010 -> 06:55 PM) I think the fact that he threw 112 pitches is the most alarming thing, not the fact he got hit around. That was 100% deliberate. Probably 110 were fastballs again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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