NorthSideSox72 Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 How does the SoxTalk crowd feel about the DH? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Get rid of it. I'm tired of seeing a bunch of softball players getting paid gobs of money. Most of these "athletes" can barely run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I think its impact as a defensive position is underrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I love having a fundamental difference between the 2 leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I've only known the DH. I don't care to watch pitchers hit. They're paid to pitch. If they kept it the way it is, I wouldn't care, but I kind of would like the NL to add the DH so the AL wouldn't be top heavy on hitters. But if they got rid of the DH, I would get used to it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Seriously, though i do like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I don't understand why one of the position players get an exemption from hitting. It's quite arbitrary and gets away from the tradition of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I don't know whether I'm willing to watch five to ten less years of players such as Jim Thome, Frank Thomas, Harold Baines, Rafael Palmeiro, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Feb 23, 2010 -> 03:55 PM) I don't know whether I'm willing to watch five to ten less years of players such as Jim Thome, Frank Thomas, Harold Baines, Rafael Palmeiro, etc... Getting paid millions of dollars to play for about 5 minutes per game seems ludicrous to me. For that money they should be working out year round to be in amazing shape so that they could play the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I like it, but Ozzie makes me hate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I would be in favor of getting rid of the DH if pitchers could hit worth a lick. I hate it when a NL team can just walk the bases loaded cause they know the pitcher will come up and they can get him out. If they could even hit anywhere close to what a Kotsay/Jones/Vizquel platoon will hit (which isnt much), I would be all for banning the DH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Feb 23, 2010 -> 04:03 PM) I would be in favor of getting rid of the DH if pitchers could hit worth a lick. I hate it when a NL team can just walk the bases loaded cause they know the pitcher will come up and they can get him out. If they could even hit anywhere close to what a Kotsay/Jones/Vizquel platoon will hit (which isnt much), I would be all for banning the DH. Sometime the pitcher does knock in that key hit. They can also pinch hit or do a double switch. There's a lot more tactical strategy involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 DH in both leagues. Pitchers are almost an automatic out. Its not a new thing either. In 1963 Koufax hit .064 in 124 plate appearnces. He had 7 hits. I'd rather watch an old and out of shape guy, than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Feb 23, 2010 -> 04:05 PM) Sometime the pitcher does knock in that key hit. They can also pinch hit or do a double switch. There's a lot more tactical strategy involved. I agree, and the whole strategy in pinch hitting or double switching is why I prefer no-DH. And you have also pitchers like Zambrano and Owings that give you an advantage. Just some of those pitchers are so damn bad at hitting, it frustrates me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Feb 23, 2010 -> 05:10 PM) I agree, and the whole strategy in pinch hitting or double switching is why I prefer no-DH. And you have also pitchers like Zambrano and Owings that give you an advantage. Just some of those pitchers are so damn bad at hitting, it frustrates me. So, you're saying you like it when the 9th guy in the order is able to hit? Maybe if you replaced him with a full time hitter, someone designated to do that job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clyons Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Feb 23, 2010 -> 04:01 PM) I like it, but Ozzie makes me hate it. So true. With interleague play and the integration of the umpiring crews, I like that that there is still some difference between the leagues, although its weird to consider that the NL is now the only league of significance without the DH. Its used in the NCAA, the minors, and in international competitions like the WBC and the Olympics. I think it makes for a better game overall, despite the loss of strategy in a small percentage of close games. Even in those games, however, I think the strategy angle tends to be somewhat overhyped; most manager's decisions can be pretty reliably predicted, kind of like "going for two" in football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Get rid of it this year and don't bring it back until the Sox get a real one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 23, 2010 -> 04:12 PM) So, you're saying you like it when the 9th guy in the order is able to hit? Maybe if you replaced him with a full time hitter, someone designated to do that job. Thanks, now I have no idea whose side I'm on anymore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Feb 23, 2010 -> 03:57 PM) Getting paid millions of dollars to play for about 5 minutes per game seems ludicrous to me. For that money they should be working out year round to be in amazing shape so that they could play the field. Most of these guys have to work their asses off year round just so they can DH for ~130 games, it can only do so much when you're body is failing you in your mid 30's. 1.) I'm not giving up 7 or 8 years of Edgar Martinez's career, without the DH he would have been forced to retire in his early 30's. Cutting in half the career of one of the greatest pure hitters I've ever seen, I'm not trading that for anything. 2.) I hate watching s*** relievers pitch for 4 innings because the team had to pinch hit with the bases loaded and 2 outs in the top of the 5th. 3.) A team taking a big hit defensively because they have to keep a big bat in the lineup despite the fact that he's an absolute butcher in the field just lessens one of the main aspects of the game. Personally, I have no interest in watching Adam Dunn play left or David Ortiz play first. 4.) There's few things in sports more annoying than watching a pitcher try to hit. I watch baseball for entertainment purposes and for me watching starting pitchers go deep into games instead of being lifted for Lenny Harris in the 6th and seeing guys like Edgar Martinez and Jim Thome continue to wreak havoc on pitchers into their late 30's rather than being relegated to a golf course does a lot more for me than Dusty Baker pulling double switch in the 7th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Feb 23, 2010 -> 04:10 PM) I agree, and the whole strategy in pinch hitting or double switching is why I prefer no-DH. And you have also pitchers like Zambrano and Owings that give you an advantage. Just some of those pitchers are so damn bad at hitting, it frustrates me. And Carlos Zambrano is only a lifetime .236/.243/.396/.639 hitter, meaning the Cubs have a big advantage because they have right handed Wilson Betemit hitting 9th for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHizzle85 Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattZakrowski Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I like watching pro sports because it's an opportunity to watch people who are the best in the world compete at the highest levels, pitchers hitting is not this. And the whole strategy thing is overrated. If anything, not having a DH often dictates the strategy for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I like it because it keeps the pitchers safer and it helps keep the offense moving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 what kalapse said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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