HuskyCaucasian Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 This is crazy... Watch CBS News Videos Online TechCrunch: The Bloom Box After eight years of operating in quasi-stealth, Bloom Energy came out with a bang today at an event in Silicon Valley attended by Arnold Schwarzenegger, Colin Powell, Larry Page, John Doerr, and executives from eBay, Walmart, Coca-Cola, and FedEx. All of the big-name companies, including Google, are beta customers of Bloom’s distributed energy fuel cell technology (which was the subject of a 60 Minutes profile on Sunday and various other stories since then). Doerr, the Kleiner Perkins VC who backed both Bloom and Google, said today: “This Is Like The Google IPO.” Except without the IPO part. Doerr was referring to the fact that, like Google, Bloom has kept its business close to its vest until it actually could show some progress in terms of customers and products. Five Bloom energy boxes about the size of a parking space each now provide 15 percent of the power at eBay’s campus. Walmart is testing the boxes in two locations where it is carrying 60 to 80 percent of the energy load of an entire store. Google co-founder Larry Page calls the technology a “very big deal” and looks forward to the day that it can expand the number of Bloom boxes Google uses to the point where it can power one of its data centers. Bloom founder and CEO KR Sridhar, who got his start designing technologies for NASA that would allow humans to live on Mars, explained how Bloom’s fuel cell technology works. It takes almost any fuel from ethanol to biomass and turns it into electricity. Fuel cells are nothing new, but Bloom has figured out a way to make them cheaply and efficiently. A Sridhar claims that a Bloom box, which he calls an energy server, is twice as efficient as the electricity grid. “For the same amount of electricity, you need half the fuel,” he says. “If you use a renewable fuel you are carbon neutral. Use all the electricity you want and don’t feel guilty about polluting the environment.” Each fuel cell, which is made from sand essentially (zirconium oxide), is a square wafer about the size of a CD box. Each wafer can produce about 25 watts of energy, enough to power a lightbulb. Stack them together and you get a box that could power a house. Group them into larger units, and you get enough energy to power a building or an entire campus. He calls them energy servers because they are modular like servers in a data center. Need more energy? Add more boxes. They are like backyard generators. No electricity is lost through distribution, and they can convert a variety of fuels into electricity, allowing customers to use whatever is locally available or cheapest. There are no moving parts, vents, or discharge other than heat. Right now, only businesses and large facilities can afford these things. They cost about $750,000 for a 100 kilowatt system (Google is using a 400 kilowatt systems to power one building on its campus, and the Walmart stores are also using 400 kilowatt systems). Nevertheless, Bloom says the systems should pay for themselves within three to five years because of lower electricity costs. A typical electricity cost for commercial customers is 8 to 10 cents per kilowatt-hour versus 13 cents for what they might pay a California utility. That 3 to 5 cents per kilowatt-hour in savings adds up if you are running a huge retail store or a data center. The costs should come down over time to the point where Bloom boxes really can be used in homes. One potentially disruptive feature of the technology is that it works both ways: fuel can produce electricity, but it can also go the other way so that electricity produces fuel. Sridhar foresees the killer app for his technology becoming practical in about a decade: a Bloom home energy server combined with solar panels or some other renewable energy. The electricity from the solar panels could produce fuel, which can be used to produce electricity to power the house or even to gas up your (modified) car. Dreams like those are the kind that fuel something else: big IPOs. When’s the real one, Doerr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Sort of useless if you are using an outside source of energy - its just adding a middle layer that costs money. Really only useful if you are going to buy fuel cells for it, use them, and get new ones. Therefore, makes more sense to be used commercially, not residentially. I'm way more psyched about the new solar wire-grid tech that gets 95% efficiency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted February 24, 2010 Author Share Posted February 24, 2010 I agree NSS. The technology is interesting and has some significant potential uses. But in the long term, it's wind and solar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted February 24, 2010 Author Share Posted February 24, 2010 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 24, 2010 -> 03:00 PM) I'm way more psyched about the new solar wire-grid tech that gets 95% efficiency. I have not heard of this. Can you give me details? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?s=...t&p=2090636 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Feb 24, 2010 -> 04:02 PM) I have not heard of this. Can you give me details? Check the Environment thread. Edited February 24, 2010 by iamshack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted February 24, 2010 Author Share Posted February 24, 2010 QUOTE (iamshack @ Feb 24, 2010 -> 03:04 PM) Check the Environment thread. will do. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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