HuskyCaucasian Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I was talking with our HR person at work and we were talking about what to do with those who opt out of the insurance offered by our organization. Currently, people who opt out, like myself, receive no increase in pay... I simply stop having to pay towards the organization's insurance. She was looking at putting forward the idea to give employee's an increase in pay that matches, or nearly matches, what they were paying for an individual to be insured. I was curious what your various companies/organizations do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Not even a thank you. I do not know of any company that offered some offset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Every company I've ever worked for (and I've worked for some huge companies) you don't get anything if you opt out. Only reason to really opt out if you have a decent health care plan is if your significant other has a better one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I wonder if any company still pays you for unused vacation and/or sick days. It's been a couple decades since I can remember a company doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Come on Tex, you don't get paid out till you get fired or quit, haha. I think most companies learned it was a bad practice because vacation is actually good for the employees performance, etc. Everywhere I've been they've encouraged you to actually take the vacation (thankfully). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Mar 17, 2010 -> 06:11 PM) Come on Tex, you don't get paid out till you get fired or quit, haha. I think most companies learned it was a bad practice because vacation is actually good for the employees performance, etc. Everywhere I've been they've encouraged you to actually take the vacation (thankfully). I worked for one that paid everyone in December for unused time. It crushed my profitability in a usually slow month. The downside was no carry over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Mar 17, 2010 -> 06:07 PM) Every company I've ever worked for (and I've worked for some huge companies) you don't get anything if you opt out. Only reason to really opt out if you have a decent health care plan is if your significant other has a better one. Same here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 I have never heard of a company increasing your comp for opting out of health insurance. Also, there's a lot of companies (this is Tex's subject, btw) that pay out unused vacation. The company I'm working at now gives you three weeks vacation, but you have to use one for the week between Christmas and New Year as they have a plant shutdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted March 18, 2010 Author Share Posted March 18, 2010 QUOTE (Tex @ Mar 17, 2010 -> 06:09 PM) I wonder if any company still pays you for unused vacation and/or sick days. It's been a couple decades since I can remember a company doing that. I know my wife's company pays sick days, not sure about vacation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stocking Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 I work for Trump, they offer $150 a month to turn down insurance. Also to note, 20 hrs is full time i Hawaii. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted March 18, 2010 Author Share Posted March 18, 2010 QUOTE (Stocking @ Mar 18, 2010 -> 07:21 AM) I work for Trump, they offer $150 a month to turn down insurance. Also to note, 20 hrs is full time i Hawaii. you need the other 20 to enjoy the weather and surf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controlled Chaos Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 QUOTE (Tex @ Mar 17, 2010 -> 06:09 PM) I wonder if any company still pays you for unused vacation and/or sick days. It's been a couple decades since I can remember a company doing that. My company would buy out up to 2 weeks. Last year changes went into effect. They allowed you to sell your vacation days back at only 50%. This year and for the future it's 0. I was sure to use all my vacation last year, before that I always sold back 2 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clyons Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Mar 17, 2010 -> 10:20 PM) I know my wife's company pays sick days, not sure about vacation. In Illinois, unless the company has a written "use it or lose it" policy, the law requires payment of accrued, but unused vacation. Not so with pure "sick days," as it they are deemed a contingent benefit (e.g., to be used only "if" the employee is sick). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Government especially education have the payouts I assume it is a union thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controlled Chaos Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Mar 18, 2010 -> 09:06 AM) In Illinois, unless the company has a written "use it or lose it" policy, the law requires payment of accrued, but unused vacation. Not so with pure "sick days," as it they are deemed a contingent benefit (e.g., to be used only "if" the employee is sick). I'm not sure if this is a way around it or not, but we have now gone to a PTO policy. There are no more 'vacation' or 'sick' days. Everything falls under personal time off. So if your sick it's PTO, if you're on vacation for a week, it's PTO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Mar 18, 2010 -> 05:08 PM) Government especially education have the payouts I assume it is a union thing. That's fairly standard in CBA's I've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clyons Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 QUOTE (Controlled Chaos @ Mar 19, 2010 -> 08:55 AM) I'm not sure if this is a way around it or not, but we have now gone to a PTO policy. There are no more 'vacation' or 'sick' days. Everything falls under personal time off. So if your sick it's PTO, if you're on vacation for a week, it's PTO. The official position of the Illinois Department of Labor is that those personal days are treated the same way as vacation; i.e., employees have an absolute right to take them (or receive the cash equivalent) because they are "earned" through service, just like wages or salary. That said, employers can limit "carry-over" or subject them to "use it or lose it" forfeiture through a written policy, set out in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Mar 17, 2010 -> 01:22 PM) I was talking with our HR person at work and we were talking about what to do with those who opt out of the insurance offered by our organization. Currently, people who opt out, like myself, receive no increase in pay... I simply stop having to pay towards the organization's insurance. She was looking at putting forward the idea to give employee's an increase in pay that matches, or nearly matches, what they were paying for an individual to be insured. I was curious what your various companies/organizations do. I dropped my coverage at work after the end of 2009 and went on my wife's insurance. Her family coverage was better, especially now that we have a little boy, and the family coverage from my work was way too expensive. I think my check increased the amount I would've paid to insurance since it was taxed from my gross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Its bad practice to allow employees to opt out of health insurance to make more money. Sick people dont go to work much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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